The Dark Knight Rises OFFICIAL: Batman in the Burgh - - Part 11

[Rocketman]

He was in the Wayne Manor shoot and the museum ball one.

Ah, that's true.
Is he scheduled for anything else the rest of the shoot?

 

[Batty Belfry]

Perhaps it's a hostage situation and there is a trade of some sort. Just speculating, but one of the goons points to where he wants Gordon to go.

 

[Rocketman]

I'm guessing this is all happening when Batman is out of commission.

Good thinking.

BECAUSE... Drum roll please...

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Batman gets his back broken by Bane, and Bruce has to go to India to heal himself in the Lazarus Pit!

 

[kvz5]

Ah, that's true.
Is he scheduled for anything else the rest of the shoot?

I have no idea. I think the only new thing we know is what aliensarchive said about Marion and Morgan shooting a scene together this Saturday. I'm thinking it might be the scene you're talking about. Apparently, they're investigating something.

 

[rashad]

I wonder if Morgan Freeman is only shooting two days worth of film for this movie. We haven't seen him in any production pics or videos at all. Maybe he's not in this movie much because

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he gets killed early on

?

Morgan filmed scenes when they were shooting in the UK. He'll be shooting in LA soon too. Like I said earlier they have filmed alot more than we've seen. Just because we haven't seen him in production videos and pics doesn't mean whole lot.

 

[TheBatman072]

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If Fox dies like the DA in Begins by Marion's hand, that will for sure piss me off. Hell, if he dies at all, that'll piss me off.

 

[kvz5]

I hope we see Bruce doing his own field work or going undercover. I want Matches Malone!

 

[Pagan]

Just found this, was it ever posted? Shows someone attempting to jump from vehicle to vehicle...

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yep that's Talia's stunt double and looks like this is when they first hijack the bomb truck. It's corroborated with the earlier footage we had of her learning to drive it that subaru got.

 

[Rocketman]

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If Fox dies like the DA in Begins by Marion's hand, that will for sure piss me off. Hell, if he dies at all, that'll piss me off.

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All I ask is that Batman, Alfred, Selina and Gordon live. The four of them are too important to Batman's mythology.

 

[TheBatman072]

I hope we see Bruce doing his own field work or going undercover. I want Matches Malone!

That could happen if the movie plays out the way I believe it does.

Bane breaks Batman in at some point in the second act, probably toward the end of it, and then he goes away to retrain. After a lengthy stay abroad, he comes back, but in complete secret. He adopts the N/A "Matches" Malone persona, to investigate all that's been going on in his absence.

Be pretty cool.

 

[kvz5]

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All I ask is that Batman, Alfred, Selina and Gordon live. The four of them are too important to Batman's mythology.

I'll be content if all of 4 of them live.

 

[kvz5]

That could happen if the movie plays out the way I believe it does.

Bane breaks Batman in at some point in the second act, probably toward the end of it, and then he goes away to retrain. After a lengthy stay abroad, he comes back, but in complete secret. He adopts the N/A "Matches" Malone persona, to investigate all that's been going on in his absence.

Be pretty cool.

I would love that. Might explain too why Bruce has to wear a ski mask. Not only to hide Batman's identity but also to not alert anyone that Bruce is back. It's probably too good to be true though!

 

[Rocketman]

What if:

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While Bruce is in India re-training, or rejuvenating in the Lazarus Pit (or whatever), he does detective work to learn about the origin of Bane, and he does so by interrogating the locals of the area, and THAT'S where we see flashbacks of Josh Pence (Ra's) and Young Bane... because Bruce is learning these things through the locals' stories at the same time as we are.

It just seems like people are totally forgetting that Ra's Al Ghul is in this movie. Like, there's something worthwhile to the story there, if Nolan actually wants to revisit that character. There's got to be something very important there.

 

[MultipleJesuses]

Gordon has a bomb detonation blocking device in these scenes given to him by Batman. His job is to plant it on the Bomb Truck.

That would make sense!

 

[kvz5]

What if:

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While Bruce is in India re-training, or rejuvenating in the Lazarus Pit (or whatever), he does detective work to learn about the origin of Bane, and he does so by interrogating the locals of the area, and THAT'S where we see flashbacks of Josh Pence (Ra's) and Young Bane... because Bruce is learning these things through the locals' stories at the same time as we are.

It just seems like people are totally forgetting that Ra's Al Ghul is in this movie. Like, there's something worthwhile to the story there, if Nolan actually wants to revisit that character. There's got to be something very important there.

I can see it playing out like in The Prestige. While Borden was reading Angier's journal, the events are being shown in flashbacks. So like your theory but instead of a journal, it's stories from locals. Or maybe he came across some of Ra's journals.

It's strange though... How can Tate be Bruce's love interest or how can she simply earn his trust if Bruce is MIA in the first place at the time she seems to be "helping out" the GCPD?

 

[akfj]

At 2:24, was Oldman picking his nose or scratching his mustache?

"Is that so unforgivable? Is that like breaking a commandment? Did God say to Moses thou shalt not pick?"

 

[Rocketman]

1. I can see it playing out like in The Prestige. While Borden was reading Angier's journal, the events are being shown in flashbacks. So like your theory but instead of a journal, it's stories from locals. Or maybe he came across some of Ra's journals.

2. It's strange though... How can Tate be Bruce's love interest or how can she simply earn his trust if Bruce is MIA in the first place at the time she seems to be "helping out" the GCPD?

1. I would definitely love Nolan's non-linear storytelling to return. That's a big trademark of his style that I've missed for quite a while. TDK was perfectly linear, and Inception pretty much was too (although there were four linear things happening at once, lol). I just adore how Nolan coherently jumbles time around, and it's actually non-linear because it should be and not because it's some pretentious "Look at me!" thing. I don't see how TDKR could work without non-linear writing. There seems to be so many threads happening at once.

2. I don't think Tate will be a love interest at all, but rather a female friend in the same vein as Rachel (minus the romance) or even Leslie Thompkins. It seems like she's just one of those characters who could also be a male, and her relationship to Bruce would still be the same. Having said that, if she's Talia, I'd hate to not see the Batman/Talia dynamic there.

You know what,

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Tate obviously has to be Talia. Why else would Ra's be in this movie unless that became relevant later on? Marion is just spot-on casting for Talia.

And dammit,

Spoiler

this movie is going to kick so much ass!!!!

 

[Batty Belfry]

1. I would definitely love Nolan's non-linear storytelling to return. That's a big trademark of his style that I've missed for quite a while. TDK was perfectly linear, and Inception pretty much was too (although there were four linear things happening at once, lol). I just adore how Nolan coherently jumbles time around, and it's actually non-linear because it should be and not because it's some pretentious "Look at me!" thing. I don't see how TDKR could work without non-linear writing. There seems to be so many threads happening at once.

2. I don't think Tate will be a love interest at all, but rather a female friend in the same vein as Rachel (minus the romance) or even Leslie Thompkins. It seems like she's just one of those characters who could also be a male, and her relationship to Bruce would still be the same. Having said that, if she's Talia, I'd hate to not see the Batman/Talia dynamic there.

You know what,

Spoiler

Tate obviously has to be Talia. Why else would Ra's be in this movie unless that became relevant later on? Marion is just spot-on casting for Talia.

And dammit,

Spoiler

this movie is going to kick so much ass!!!!

Yes, yes, yes and YES! LOL I agree!

I know the Pittsburgh filming is done and all, but I keep venturing into this thread. It's like....like....

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You think I want to escape from this? There is no escape from this!

t:

 

[aliensarchive]

If you go to the 31st Street Studios facebook page you can see some photos of the interior sets that were built for Batman. Looks like they built at least one Subway car.

 

[rashad]

If you go to the 31st Street Studios facebook page you can see some photos of the interior sets that were built for Batman. Looks like they built at least one Subway car.

Another tidbit.

Fan: Hi, any chance of an end of filming Batman sale?

31st Street Studios
Unfortunatly not. All assets are being taken to New York or Los Angeles.

 

[Cats]

I can see it playing out like in The Prestige. While Borden was reading Angier's journal, the events are being shown in flashbacks. So like your theory but instead of a journal, it's stories from locals. Or maybe he came across some of Ra's journals.

It's strange though... How can Tate be Bruce's love interest or how can she simply earn his trust if Bruce is MIA in the first place at the time she seems to be "helping out" the GCPD?

Or we're reading it backwards. Maybe she does seduce and acquire Bruce's trust very early on, then she does the reveal when Bane breaks his back. Then it'll be as was suggested that Bruce Wayne goes to India to heal, and investigate the mystery of Miranda Tate, who he then would know is Talia, Ra's daughter. This will lead Bruce to a revelation of Ra's life and what caused him to create the LOS. Meanwhile, with Batman out of the picture and her secret still safe, Talia would go on to fool the GCPD and this will result in Gordon's demise. This will in turn bring Bruce back to Gotham and have him retake the mantle for a final battle with Bane and eventually even Talia herself.

 

[kvz5]

1. I would definitely love Nolan's non-linear storytelling to return. That's a big trademark of his style that I've missed for quite a while. TDK was perfectly linear, and Inception pretty much was too (although there were four linear things happening at once, lol). I just adore how Nolan coherently jumbles time around, and it's actually non-linear because it should be and not because it's some pretentious "Look at me!" thing. I don't see how TDKR could work without non-linear writing. There seems to be so many threads happening at once.

2. I don't think Tate will be a love interest at all, but rather a female friend in the same vein as Rachel (minus the romance) or even Leslie Thompkins. It seems like she's just one of those characters who could also be a male, and her relationship to Bruce would still be the same. Having said that, if she's Talia, I'd hate to not see the Batman/Talia dynamic there.

You know what,

Spoiler

Tate obviously has to be Talia. Why else would Ra's be in this movie unless that became relevant later on? Marion is just spot-on casting for Talia.

And dammit,

Spoiler

this movie is going to kick so much ass!!!!

There's very little doubt now that she's Talia. And I do think though that she'll be a love interest in some capacity. Whether she falls for him or she just seduced him to gain his trust or what not is up in the air at this point.

Other than, I agree with everything else. t:

Or we're reading it backwards. Maybe she does seduce and acquire Bruce's trust very early on, then she does the reveal when Bane breaks his back. Then it'll be as was suggested that Bruce Wayne goes to India to heal, and investigate the mystery of Miranda Tate, who he then would know is Talia, Ra's daughter. This will lead Bruce to a revelation of Ra's life and what caused him to create the LOS. Meanwhile, with Batman out of the picture and her secret still safe, Talia would go on to fool the GCPD and this will result in Gordon's demise. This will in turn bring Bruce back to Gotham and have him retake the mantle for a final battle with Bane and eventually even Talia herself.

That makes sense! I can see that happening.

 

[Liam_H]

Or we're reading it backwards. Maybe she does seduce and acquire Bruce's trust very early on, then she does the reveal when Bane breaks his back. Then it'll be as was suggested that Bruce Wayne goes to India to heal, and investigate the mystery of Miranda Tate, who he then would know is Talia, Ra's daughter. This will lead Bruce to a revelation of Ra's life and what caused him to create the LOS. Meanwhile, with Batman out of the picture and her secret still safe, Talia would go on to fool the GCPD and this will result in Gordon's demise. This will in turn bring Bruce back to Gotham and have him retake the mantle for a final battle with Bane and eventually even Talia herself.

That's very good theory its just that where would Selina Kyle fit into all of it? I mean with that storyline she would seem to play a very minor character which I certainly hope not.

 

[TheBatman072]

Or we're reading it backwards. Maybe she does seduce and acquire Bruce's trust very early on, then she does the reveal when Bane breaks his back. Then it'll be as was suggested that Bruce Wayne goes to India to heal, and investigate the mystery of Miranda Tate, who he then would know is Talia, Ra's daughter. This will lead Bruce to a revelation of Ra's life and what caused him to create the LOS. Meanwhile, with Batman out of the picture and her secret still safe, Talia would go on to fool the GCPD and this will result in Gordon's demise. This will in turn bring Bruce back to Gotham and have him retake the mantle for a final battle with Bane and eventually even Talia herself.

Gordon's demise? Now he's dying too?

That's very good theory its just that where would Selina Kyle fit into all of it? I mean with that storyline she would seem to play a very minor character which I certainly hope not.

As the female Robin of course!

See, Nolan using Selina Kyle in the movie is really just a smoke screen for the true female star. Marion Cotillard/Talia.

 

[Liam_H]

If that turns out to be true than I will be gravely disappointed. But there is certainly a chance that could happen, in TDK everyone thought it was gonna be a Joker movie but he was essentially the driving force for Dent's character arc.