Official Contest of Marvels II Discussion Thread

[Phaedrus45]

Darn it. I have done results twice, and each time The Hype's messed up. I'll get to it later, if anyone's wondering where it is.

 

[Phaedrus45]

The following participants have matches this week:

Phaedrus45, Wiegeabo = 6
Harlekin = 5
Hippy Fascist = 4
JewishHobbit = 3
Ahura Mazda, Darthphere, Kytrigger, Zoken = 2
Primemover, Midnight Ice = 1

Wins:

Wiegeabo = 16
Phaedrus45, Harlekin = 15
Kytrigger = 14
JewishHobbit = 13
Hippy Fascist = 12
Ahura Mazda = 9
Darthphere = 8
Midnight Ice, Primemover = 7
Zoken = 5

Losses:

Phaedrus, Darthphere, Hippy Fascist = 12
JewishHobbit, Ahura Mazda = 11
Kytrigger = 10
Zoken = 9
Midnight Ice, Harlekin = 8
Primemover = 7
Wiegeabo = 4

The following characters have advanced to the Third Round:

Bracket 1: Adam X(JEWISHHOBBIT) vs. Damien Hellstrom(HARLEKIN)
Bracket 2: Georgeous George(HARLEKIN) vs. Doc Octopus(JEWISHHOBBIT)
Bracket 3: Scarlet Spider(JEWISHHOBBIT) vs. Mr. Sinister(AHURA MAZDA)
Bracket 4: Korath(PHAEDRUS45) vs. Stryfe(PRIMEMOVER)
Bracket 5: Gorgon(PHAEDRUS45) vs. Jean Grey(PHAEDRUS45)
Bracket 6: Air-Walker(KYTRIGGER) vs. Moonstone(HARLEKIN)
Bracket 7: Garokk(KYTRIGGER) vs. Luke Cage(PRIMEMOVER)
Bracket 8: Selene(KYTRIGGER) vs. War(MIDNIGHT ICE)

 

[Phaedrus45]

Ok, if someone can do the math part and let me know percentages, that would be great.

 

[primemover]

Anybody else think it's lame to have a match in a populated area? To me it benefits villains too much. I am not pointing fingers to anybody here, as I myself used it to my benefit with Stryfe vs. Sauron, but still.

 

[Phaedrus45]

If everyone doesn't like it, we can do away with populated areas. I've just seen that having populated areas are sometimes liked. (Plus, some characters are at more of a disadvantage when it isn't populated; so, they do get a bit of a chance this way.) Plus, to me, good guys always have an advantage by having a much better win/loss record than bad guys.

 

[wiegeabo]

Percentages

Wiegeabo 80%
Harlekin 65.2%
Kytrigger 58.3%
Phaedrus45 55.6%
JewishHobbit 54.2%
Hippy Fascist 50%
Primemover 50%
Midnight Ice 46.7%
Ahura Mazda 45%
Darthphere 40%
Zoken 35.6%


I hope I did these right.

Wasn't last week the last week of round 2? Or am I just losing my mind?

 

[Phaedrus45]

Percentages

Wiegeabo 80%
Harlekin 65.2%
Kytrigger 58.3%
Phaedrus45 55.6%
JewishHobbit 54.2%
Hippy Fascist 50%
Primemover 50%
Midnight Ice 46.7%
Ahura Mazda 45%
Darthphere 40%
Zoken 35.6%


I hope I did these right.

Wasn't last week the last week of round 2? Or am I just losing my mind?

Ok, looks good. Yep, that's the last week of Round 2. I have bracket ready for Round 3. That makes Wiegeabo the winner of Round 2 and Zoken the loser. So, I will get my comic boxes all ready to go out for both rounds.

I have JH, whose getting a Silver Surfer pack. I have two other packs that can be ready immediately: Thunderbolts and X-Men (this is the title that started in the 90's). If anyone's interested in either of those, let me know and they can have them. I'm pretty sure both contain issue #1, though it's pretty damn easy to find a copy of X-Men #1 in the bargain bins.

 

[Phaedrus45]

Oh, I noticed Sparta has disappeared for a while now; so, I'm trying to make sure during the change in locations for our threads that his thread stays active. If you guys have time, could you go in daily and quickly vote for the matches that get put up. I did my second one today, and I asked 3dman to hopefully help out. I just think Sparta would probably like to see it continue on while he's not around.

 

[Harlekin]

Second place still rocks, I guess. Could the brackets for round 3 be put up here? I like to calculate my amount of matches for the next 4 (?) weeks.

 

[Ahura Mazda]

If everyone doesn't like it, we can do away with populated areas. I've just seen that having populated areas are sometimes liked. (Plus, some characters are at more of a disadvantage when it isn't populated; so, they do get a bit of a chance this way.) Plus, to me, good guys always have an advantage by having a much better win/loss record than bad guys.

It is the luck of the draw at the end of the day. I personally felt like I lost my match largely because this was a populated area this week, whereas I lost Empath because the area was unpopulated. However, luck or random chance mean there are unknown quantities which play a factor and sometimes do not favor the outcome we would like.

Hmmm I should have quoted Prime, oh well.

 

[Harlekin]

I'm in favour of populated areas now and then. Keeps you on your toes.

 

[hippy fascist]

I'm in favour of populated areas now and then. Keeps you on your toes.

toss a coin at the start of each week. Simple

 

[Phaedrus45]

Many times, it's evident when a populated area should be used or not used. Many of our locations can't have a population, like in Wakanda, where the two combatants would be fighting more people than each other.

 

[Ahura Mazda]

So what is remaining before round 3?

 

[wiegeabo]

We'll probably start round 3 tomorrow to get us back on our normal schedule.

 

[Phaedrus45]

Bracket 1

1) Helix (WIEGEABO)
vs.
2) Iron Man (PHAEDRUS45)

3) Jack Of Hearts (PHAEDRUS45)
vs.
4) Adam Warlock (WIEGEABO)

5) Durok The Demolisher (AHURA MAZDA)
vs.
6) Agatha Harkness (HIPPY FASCIST)

7) Caliban (JEWISHHOBBIT)
vs.
8) Gravitron (HARLEKIN)

9) Tana Nile (PHAEDRUS45)
vs.
10) Kid Omega (PHAEDRUS45)

11) Psylocke (PRIMEMOVER)
vs.
12) Juggernaut - Villian (HIPPY FASCIST)

13) Unus The Untouchable (WIEGEABO)
vs.
14) Banshee (HIPPY FASCIST)

15) Adam X (JEWISHHOBBIT)
vs.
16) Damien Hellstrom (HARLEKIN)

Bracket 2

1) Mastermind (DARTHPHERE)
vs.
2) Magnus - Exiles (PHAEDRUS45)

3) Halloween Jack (AHURA MAZDA)
vs.
4) Sunfire - Exiles (KYTRIGGER)

5) Black Panther (HARLEKIN)
vs.
6) Captain Britain - Brian Braddock (DARTHPHERE)

7) Photon - Genis (KYTRIGGER)
vs.
8) Savage Hulk (AHURA MAZDA)

9) Frankie Raye (PHAEDRUS45)
vs.
10) Joseph (JEWISHHOBBIT)

11) Bloodaxe (PHAEDRUS45)
vs.
12) Cable - Telepath (HIPPY FASCIST)

13) Guardian - Mac Hudson (PRIMEMOVER)
VS.
14) Scarlet Witch (AHURA MAZDA)

15) Georgeous George (HARLEKIN)
vs.
16) Doc Octopus (JEWISHHOBBIT)

Bracket 3

1) Yellow claw (PHAEDRUS45)
vs.
2) Armagedon - Exiles (WIEGEABO)

3) Spiral (WIEGEABO)
vs.
4) Famine (PHAEDRUS45)

5) Wallflower - House of M (JEWISHHOBBIT)
vs.
6) Shatterstar (JEWISHHOBBIT)

7) Man-Wolf (WIEGEABO)
VS.
8) Jim Hammond (ZOKEN)

9) Beta Ray Bill (HIPPY FASCIST)
vs.
10) Protocide (MIDNIGHT ICE)

11) X-Cutioner (WIEGEABO)
VS.
12) Carrion (WIEGEABO)

13) Black Tarantula (ZOKEN)
vs.
14) Belasco (PHAEDRUS45)

15) Scarlet Spider (JEWISHHOBBIT)
vs.
16) Mr. Sinister (AHURA MAZDA)

Bracket 4

1) Mr. Hyde (HARLEKIN)
vs.
2) Longshot (HIPPY FASCIST)

3) Skullfire (WIEBEABO)
vs.
4) Alex Powers (HARLEKIN)

5) Gamesmaster (JEWISHHOBBIT)
vs.
6) Jesse Bedlam (JEWISHHOBBIT)

7) Super Skrull (PHAEDRUS45)
vs.
8) Carol Danvers (DARTHPHERE)

9) Maverick (HIPPY FASCIST)
vs.
10) Pluto (AHURA MAZDA)

11) Lord Templar (PRIMEMOVER)
vs.
12) Nightcrawler (HARLEKIN)

13) Morg (DARTHPHERE)
vs.
14) Firelord (DARTHPHERE)

15) Korath (PHAEDRUS45)
vs.
16) Stryfe (PRIMEMOVER)

Bracket 5

1) Sphinx (ZOKEN)
vs.
2) Abyss - AoA (JEWISHHOBBIT)

3) Hisako Ichiki (Harlekin)
vs.
4) Victor Mancha (ZOKEN)

5) Vengence (HIPPY FASCIST)
vs.
6) The Master (MIDNIGHT ICE)

7) Ultron (DARTHPHERE)
VS.
8) Exodus (KYTRIGGER)

9) Hercules (KYTRIGGER)
VS.
10) Nimrod (WIEGEABO)

11) Emma Frost (PHAEDRUS45)
vs.
12) Drax (MIDNIGHT ICE)

13) Punisher (ZOKEN)
vs.
14) Warlock - M Tech (WIEGEABO)

15) Gorgon - Enemy of the State (PHAEDRUS45)
vs.
16) Jean Grey (PHAEDRUS45)

Bracket 6

1) Emplate (AHURA MAZDA)
vs.
2) Quasar (WIEGEABO)

3) Ultimus (PHAEDRUS45)
VS.
4) Kitty Pryde (JEWISHHOBBIT)

5) Synch (KYTRIGGER)
vs.
6) Enchantress (HIPPY FASCIST)

7) Iceman (MIDNIGHT ICE)
VS.
8) Unuscione (KYTRIGGER)

9) New Sun (WIEGEABO)
vs.
10) Wildside (KYTRIGGER)

11) Kylun (PRIMEMOVER)
vs.
12) Fandral (HARLEKIN)

13) Red Ghost (MIDNIGHT ICE)
VS.
14) Baldur (AHURA MAZDA)

15) Airwalker (KYTRIGGER)
vs.
32) Moonstone(HARLEKIN)

Bracket 7

1) Kaine (JEWISHHOBBIT)
vs.
2) Forge (HIPPY FASCIST)

3) Rachel Grey (HIPPY FASCIST)
vs.
4) Mesmero (HARLEKIN)

5) Meggan (PRIMEMOVER)
vs.
6) Super Adaptoid (WIEGEABO)

7) Madman (MIDNIGHT ICE)
VS.
8) Magneto (KYTRIGGER)

9) Thor (HARLEKIN)
vs.
10) Cyclops (JEWISHHOBBIT)

11) Diablo (MIDNIGHT ICE)
vs.
12) Nick Fury (WIEGEABO)

13) Mr. Fantastic (KYTRIGGER)
vs.
14) Morlun (HIPPY FASCIST)

15) Garrok (KYTRIGGER)
vs.
16) Luke Cage (PRIMEMOVER)

Bracket 8

1) Nova (DARTHPHERE)
vs.
2) Maestro (KYTRIGGER)

3) Pulsar (HARLEKIN)
vs.
4) Fixer (HIPPY FASCIST)

5) Invisible Woman (DARTHPHERE)
vs.
6) Apocalypse (HARLEKIN)

7) Her (WIEGEABO)
vs.
8) Kurse (AHURA MAZDA)

9) Paibok the Power Skrull (HIPPY FASCIST)
vs.
10) Storm (JEWISHHOBBIT)

11) Justice (HARLEKIN)
vs.
12) Clea (WIEGEABO)

13) Sersi (KYTRIGGER)
vs.
14) Senyaka (KYTRIGGER)

15) Selene (KYTRIGGER)
vs.
16) War (MIDNIGHT ICE)

 

[hippy fascist]

edit:nm

 

[Harlekin]

Thanks, Phaed.

 

[primemover]

It is the luck of the draw at the end of the day. I personally felt like I lost my match largely because this was a populated area this week, whereas I lost Empath because the area was unpopulated. However, luck or random chance mean there are unknown quantities which play a factor and sometimes do not favor the outcome we would like.

Luck of the draw is being flame ******ant and going against The Human Torch, going against The Swamp Thing on Coruscant, or being immune to telepathy and going against somebody who's only power is telepathy. Those are case by case things and don't spread past that immediate match. Having a populated area effects the matches in a bigger way, it benefits half the competitors over the other half.

Plus, to me, good guys always have an advantage by having a much better win/loss record than bad guys.

I always thought that the balance between hero and villain was 'track record' vs. 'use of deadly force'.

 

[Phaedrus45]

If anyone here would like to help out in Sparta's Marvel Tournament, it would be appreciated. All you have to do is tally up the previous match and post a new match around the same time as the previous day's. I've asked for help; but, I haven't had anyone volunteer yet. Plus, I don't want to make an all-out cry for help, as I don't know if Sparta would be happy with someone we don't know making posts in his thread.

If you're interested, just PM me.

 

[kytrigger]

Luck of the draw is being flame ******ant and going against The Human Torch, going against The Swamp Thing on Coruscant, or being immune to telepathy and going against somebody who's only power is telepathy. Those are case by case things and don't spread past that immediate match. Having a populated area effects the matches in a bigger way, it benefits half the competitors over the other half.



I always thought that the balance between hero and villain was 'track record' vs. 'use of deadly force'.

I definately see where it is an advantage for villains populated area, but it's not impossible to defend against either. I mean the simplest defense is that a HUGE amount of battles in teh comics take place in cities and whatnot, and the heroes still win even with the innocent people around. If they can do it in the comics, then they can do it here too.

I think that having a populated location every once in a while is fine.

 

[JewishHobbit]

Wow, I predict bad things for me over the next two rounds. I don't see a single character of mine that I truly believe could win this thing.

 

[hippy fascist]

Joseph

 

[Phaedrus45]

Damn Joseph and Magneto. I wish I never have to face them again! Plus, I got Magnus-Exiles in the last go around. I guess if you can beat 'em, own 'em.

I see me losing a little more than half my characters next round. I believe I predicted I'd lose 11 in Round 2, and I lost 12....so, my prediction previously was pretty close.

 

[hippy fascist]

Cable
Beta Ray
Vengeance
Enchantress
Rachel Grey
Morlun
Paibok
Juggernaut

These I feel certain will get through, some of the others could go either way, some are washouts...it'll be interesting finding out t: