First Avenger OFFICIAL: Hugo Weaving is Red Skull - Part 6/6/44

[Krimasen]

Unless Red Skull finds a time portal, I wonder how he'd come back without having aged significantly since his last encounter with CA? I mean unlike CA, he wasn't frozen or put into sleep for the last 70 years.

As Captain America says in the film, the serum basically enables him to keep healing at a rapid pace, which would also slow down the aging process. Red Skull's body didn't react well with the serum, but that doesn't mean he didn't get to keep some of its benefits. How else could a guy with a burnt face survive and not die from any number of infections?

 

[ciscostudent561]

skull looks like he might being goin to Asgard or Frost giant land. If that is the case, his rapid cell regeneration coupled with whatever keeps those asgardians young will certainly slow down his aging.

 

[scatterax]

He could be frosen in the land of the frost giants for all we know.

 

[Son of Coul]

I don't know if this has been mentioned, but I fully expect an animated .gif of Red Skull yelling into the camera, "YOU ARE FAILING!" once the blu-ray comes out for use on these boards.

 

[RedSkull]

love this shot:

apparently I cant post it cause people are over sensitive over seeing a simple gif that spoils nothing

 

[Rock Sexton]

^^^^^^ Dude I would get rid of that immediately if I were you.

 

[Hurm...]

But it's so...awesome

Listen to Rock though

 

[Wolvieboy17]

That image will be gone in 3.....2......1....

 

[psylockolussus]

Red Skull was a weak villain.

 

[The Caped Knight]

Red Skull was a weak villain.

Are you kidden me ? Obviously you weren't watching the same movie because he was a hell of lot better than Sebastian Shaw in First Class.

 

[Wolvieboy17]

I was gonna disagree until you compared him to Shaw. Shaw was pretty darn good.

The one thing I'll say about Red Skull is he was great up until where his true face was revealed, then it felt like we didn't get to see him as much. Still thought it was a great portrayal.

 

[RedSkull]

wow you guys. wow

 

[kedrell]

I was gonna disagree until you compared him to Shaw. Shaw was pretty darn good.

The one thing I'll say about Red Skull is he was great up until where his true face was revealed, then it felt like we didn't get to see him as much. Still thought it was a great portrayal.

To me there was just something off about Bacon's Shaw. Can't quite put my finger on it. He wasn't terrible but there was definitely something lacking to me. Maybe it was intensity or charisma, I dunno. I heard later that Bacon(who I like as an actor) wasn't really their first choice for the role and I can see why. It just wasn't the best fit.

Bacon was a better bad guy in Hollow Man.

 

[Rowsdower!]

I liked both Shaw and Skull. They were both pretty damn perfect for the movies they appeared in. Shaw's death was cooler though.

 

[RedSkull]

Bacon is great as shaw...he's just not likeable. See theres villains that you can love to hate that play really mean and driven antagonists like Hans Landa in Inglourious Basterds and I'd say Red Skull also fits into that category. Same with characters like Hans Gruber and then there's villains that are just **** heads who you're waiting to see get killed off. Shaw fits into that category. There's nothing cool or interesting about him. He's just an ass.

 

[kedrell]

Shaw's death didn't make a whole lot of sense. It basically means Xavier helped kill him(even though he's shouting NO!). Plus a coin moving that slowly simply couldn't do what it did. It would have just pushed his head back rather than go through it.

 

[Flemm]

I didn't find that scene especially convincing, basically for the reasons you stated. I guess, where Xavier is concerned, we could speculate that he is afraid to let Shaw go, as he might kill Erik or possibly others, if liberated. Still, that's not especially clear from the scene itself. And the coin moving so slowly felt odd, since it would need to move fast to be lethal.

Overall, my issue with that movie is that Xavier's characterization felt weak to me, and the final scene did contribute to that.

Bacon's performance as Shaw was pretty solid, but he was too much like Magneto himself (as he would become), as far as his motives and ideology are concerned.

It's true that part of what makes Magneto interesting is that he basically becomes what he despises, but the script doesn't really underline that irony. Rather it seems to glorify Magneto's perspective: the revenge fantasy aspect and "mutant pride."

 

[kedrell]

By contrast. I loved how Red Skull died(or did he? ). Very reminiscent of the end of Raiders of the Lost Ark. It also ended up lending some gravitas to Thor's movie, by giving a clearer sense of how far above humanity Odin & the Asgardians actually are(something that I thought could have been emphasized a bit better in Thor's own movie).

As superior a man and brilliant as he is in the movie, Red Skull is basically a primitive monkey playing with an atom bomb.

 

[The Caped Knight]

Bacon's performance as Shaw was pretty solid, but he was too much like Magneto himself (as he would become), as far as his motives and ideology are concerned.

And that's exactly why I didn't like Shaw.

 

[Spider-Fan]

But, that served a thematic purpose. By the end of the film, Magneto becomes the very man he hated. That is a strong character arc and great use of writing.

 

[kedrell]

That works to Magneto's benefit. Kinda hinders Shaw though.

 

[The Caped Knight]

That works to Magneto's benefit. Kinda hinders Shaw though.

Again, That's Exactly what I didn't like Shaw. He basically was responsible for the birth and motivation of Magneto (Heck even wore the helmet that would become apart of Magneto's signature costume .)

 

[RedSkull]

Yeah in a way it almost detracts from the originality of Magneto making one man who isn't his direct enemy (Xavier) the catalyst for him becoming the villain.

 

[Project862006]

shaw was far more evil than red skull imo

Spoiler

shaw killed a fellow x men and made another x men join his team

tortured a young erik and killed his mother in front of him

 

[The Caped Knight]

Yeah in a way it almost detracts from the originality of Magneto making one man who isn't his direct enemy (Xavier) the catalyst for him becoming the villain.

Precisely, Their were many things in first class that for continuity sake totally contradicted the X-men trilogy especially since it's been stated many time that first Class isn't a reboot but a prequel. While their were good moments in First class, they were far too many inconsistency thought the film that kinda ruined the experience for me .

Getting back on topic, The Red Skull was downright accurate to the comics depiction of him in the classic comics. And Weaving never missed a beat in his portrayal. I loved his first reveal of his true face.