First Avenger OFFICIAL: Hugo Weaving is Red Skull

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I have to agree with CaptainCanada. I'm not bashing Red Skull - I like the character, and actually think this is a good thing about him. But in the era of sympathetic, nuanced villains, Red Skull has always remained pure evil, devoid of any redeeming qualities.

He's not supposed to be sympathetic at all. Nor do I think he ever should be. The Red Skull is the ultimate Earth villain in regard to being evil. Dr. Doom and Magneto are great villains, but they both have good and motivations that are not entirely evil. This is why the Red Skull is so great. He is pure evil in human form. Nothing about him is likeable, and for the ultimate likeable character (Cap), that is the best foil.
 
I can think of worse choices. i can think of better too though.
 
Yes I did. I don't like his acting & I know I'm not alone.
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..I kid. Of course you're entitled to your opinion, and I respect that. :yay:
 
This thread is insane. I'm so glad I don't have to deal with trying to entertain comic book fans.
 
with comic book movies its damned if you do damned if you dont
 
He's not supposed to be sympathetic at all. Nor do I think he ever should be. The Red Skull is the ultimate Earth villain in regard to being evil. Dr. Doom and Magneto are great villains, but they both have good and motivations that are not entirely evil. This is why the Red Skull is so great. He is pure evil in human form. Nothing about him is likeable, and for the ultimate likeable character (Cap), that is the best foil.

Two major points here:

1. Weaving has already played one of the most non-sympathetic baddies in Agent Smith.

2. Weaving has also played a major role behind a mask in "V for Vendetta"

The man's got the right mix of experience for the role of the Red Skull no doubt.
 
Two major points here:

1. Weaving has already played one of the most non-sympathetic baddies in Agent Smith.

2. Weaving has also played a major role behind a mask in "V for Vendetta"

The man's got the right mix of experience for the role of the Red Skull no doubt.

I completly agree with you on this. Both his performances as V and Smith are fantastic, so I only see Weaving being a complete home run in his performance.
 
Weaving was my very first choice for Sinestro, but I'm happy that role went to Strong in the end. But Weaving as Red Skull would be ideal...I'm hoping this really happens. Excellent choice.
 
Two major points here:

1. Weaving has already played one of the most non-sympathetic baddies in Agent Smith.

2. Weaving has also played a major role behind a mask in "V for Vendetta"

The man's got the right mix of experience for the role of the Red Skull no doubt.

Damn good point!
 
I can think of worse choices. i can think of better too though.

Ditto. The pre-production seems to have dragged on longer than what they had originally charted so I'm guessing this will be the first of a very "safe" cast full of genre proven actors.

Going by this casting choice, I'd say Evans has the edge for the Cap role too.
 
^^ Safe is not always bad though. Weaving would give the film instant credibility as he is incredibly experienced and is battle-tested in the sci-fi genre. He can clearly handle the menace that is required to bring Red Skull to life.
 
I do agree that Red Skull is one dimensional in that he's a hardened bad guy with no qualities that even remotely evoke sympathy. He's uncompromising, unrelenting, and unsympathetic.


In many ways, it's what Agent Smith was in The Matrix series.
 
Weaving is the man. How can't you love the guy?
 
I hate when people say oh it is a safe pick is there something wrong with picking a guy for a role who is literally perfect for it.I feel some peope always want an out of left field choice or an unconventional choice which is ridiculous.

should they of cast someone out of left field for Deadpool just b/c Reynolds was so obvious

being a safe or obvious chocie does'nt make it bad
 
Yes I did. I don't like his acting & I know I'm not alone.

I don't know..I don't anybody who actually dislikes Hugo Weaving. It's like saying.."I don't like that Eastwood guy," and everybody goes 'huh?'
 
^^ Especially when we are talking about the supporting cast. These are the choices that should provide a good foundation for your movie. I think it is OK to go unconventional in the lead role or the antagonist, but not both.
 
but you gotta have a guy who can work well for this movie AND the Avengers. That's why I think the Tron kid (as much I think he's actually a good actor) maybe is too young looking.

Evan is young too, but there's maturity there and I can an Alpha Male in there, leading the pack. That's a quality that not everyone has.
 
He's not supposed to be sympathetic at all. Nor do I think he ever should be. The Red Skull is the ultimate Earth villain in regard to being evil. Dr. Doom and Magneto are great villains, but they both have good and motivations that are not entirely evil. This is why the Red Skull is so great. He is pure evil in human form. Nothing about him is likeable, and for the ultimate likeable character (Cap), that is the best foil.
I said all that. And that makes him one-dimensional.
 
People knock casting choices as "safe picks" because their own personal choice was not cast, but the "safe pick" is too good of an actor for the people to criticize. So, the only criticism is that it's "safe."
 
but you gotta have a guy who can work well for this movie AND the Avengers. That's why I think the Tron kid (as much I think he's actually a good actor) maybe is too young looking.

Evan is young too, but there's maturity there and I can an Alpha Male in there, leading the pack. That's a quality that not everyone has.
I will agree to this i am a hedlund supporter but Evans has a more mature look not that hedlund looks like a little kid.It is just Evans also seems to have some screen presence.
 
I have to agree with CaptainCanada. I'm not bashing Red Skull - I like the character, and actually think this is a good thing about him. But in the era of sympathetic, nuanced villains, Red Skull has always remained pure evil, devoid of any redeeming qualities.

So....you think we need a sympathetic Red Skull.....like, show us how Hitler didn't let him play with puppies as a kid so that we don't feel too much anger with him as as he helps send millions to their deaths?

I think Weaving will make a good Red Skull....I've liked his acting ever since I saw THE INTERVIEW.
 
Hitler didn't let him play with puppies as a kid? that's cold.
 
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Hitler didn't let him play with puppies as a kid? that's cold.

Isn't it. I can't really be mad at Skully for trying to destroy western civilization now....I mean geeze, no puppy love for the red man.....:csad:
 
EDIT - Whoops, heh, double post.
 
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