Official JLA discussion thread - Part 2

[trustyside-kick]

I'd argue that Aquaman's is pretty easy to grasp.

Also, that was ONLY talking about Thor's freakin' love life. Not even his actual history.

 

[Anubis]

I'd argue that Aquaman's is pretty easy to grasp.

Prove it.

Also, that was ONLY talking about Thor's freakin' love life. Not even his actual history.

Well, Thor is a lover.

 

[trustyside-kick]

Prove it.

1) Studying at the moment so can't dare to do so now.

2) Is this considering the Golden Age? Because frankly the Golden Age is as irrelevant as the early Silver Age before he got his title. Simply just swam around and patrolled the oceans. No true story arcs/villains/progression/sense-of-continuity til he got his own title.

 

[Anubis]

Well, Thor didn't have the convenient company wide reboot (except for Batman.) to trim the fat, so yes. Golden, Silver, Bronze, Dark, etc.

 

[trustyside-kick]

Dark Age? You talking about the time between the Bronze and Modern (like the 80s)? I always hear it--when labeled which is rare--as Copper. Never once heard it as Dark which is what I'm assuming you are doing. Also, I wonder what the "then" Modern Age is to be called. If it is even labeled different since DC had a change, but Marvel didn't. Or what have you. I must know. >_<

 

[Anubis]

I've never heard Copper.

Always Dark. Which either way is unoffical, but enough people use it that there's a good chance it will stick. I mean, this was the age where everybody and their mother was getting taffyed and Liefeld roamed the Earth.

 

[Franklin Richards]

We called it the Marvel Age.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Aquaman's origins alone are confusing. He's a guy whose scientist father gave him the ability to breathe underwater! No, he's the son of a lighthouse keeper and an Atlantean queen! No, he's the son of a wizard and an Atlantean queen who was raised by dolphins and then a lighthouse keeper! No, he's back to being a guy whose scientist father gave him the ability to breathe underwater again! No, wait, that's another Aquaman! And his dad got the underwater-breathing mojo from the original Aquaman! And then the original died and the new one disappeared! And when the original came back, he was the son of a lighthouse keeper and an Atlantean queen again!

 

[Scarecrow_King]

bastard son of queen and wizard is obviously the coolest.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I like the Silver Age origin that they've gone back to, honestly. I like Arthur having one foot in each world, right down to his genes. Although I do wish Porm could still be a part of his childhood...

 

[Scarecrow_King]

bastard son of queen and wizard raised by human in a lighthouse?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

What are you asking? If that's the Silver Age origin? The Silver Age origin is bastard son of lighthouse keeper and queen who's raised by a human in a lighthouse.

 

[Scarecrow_King]

sorry, my post was confusing.

I feel like that does give him a foot in both worlds. I don't think its necessary for him to have a genetic connection to the surface world. They showed in his first issue he has a major emotional tie to his father, which is often stronger than anything genetics gives.

 

[Mystirious]

I've never heard Copper.

Always Dark. Which either way is unoffical, but enough people use it that there's a good chance it will stick. I mean, this was the age where everybody and their mother was getting taffyed and Liefeld roamed the Earth.

It was a strange and unsettling time when wild Image artists still ran free and comic books were just splash pages of steroid abusers hitting each other awkwardly

Only thing he said pertaining to her was the kinky and fetish-filled stuff. So that is what I was referring to.

Yep and i would love it if the comic book was kinky and fetish filled

That's one of the reasons I be so excited about Morrison's plans for the comic book

 

[Mystirious]

That's why Thor and Sif should be together. They have way more in common than Thor and random-Earth-girl Jane.

... What were we talking about?

Agreed Thor and Sif are my couple of choice for the Thor stories. They should be together

I've yet to read any good Thor/Jane stories in the comic books. Most of the time I am impatiently tapping my foot waiting for Sif to show up so she and Thor can get together

Jane was neat in the movie but that's because she was played by Natalie Portman who I luff

 

[hippie_hunter]

In the Morrison comic books though its clear the majority of his sexual relationships are casual he's never been portrayed as cheating on any of the women he's been involved with.

Yes he did. He was dating Jezebel Jet all while confessing his love for Selina Kyle. And Morrison essentially refused to recognize that Bruce and Selina were "dating" in the other Batman comics.

I don't see that as a bad thing as both of them are enjoying their relationship

Batman and Catwoman getting kinky with the costumes on gets a from me

Guillem March did a horrific job in drawing it. Maybe it would have been better under a better artist, but I need to scour my eyes after seeing those scenes in Catwoman.

But there has been tons of subtext between her and other female characters. Most of it deliberate especially in Rucka's stories

Another reason he is my favouritest Wonder Woman writer

And yet Rucka has Wonder Woman thinking of Batman in Blackest Night: Wonder Woman. There may have been subtext, but Rucka still treated Wonder Woman as a heterosexual like everyone else.

I have to disagree. I absolutely adore lgbt romance stories and I can hardly think of any that I've not liked. Same sex romance stories are the kind I'm interested in most of all and I love watching them on tv or in movies or reading about them in comic books and books. Almost all of my favourite fictional couples are either two guys or two girls together

Maybe the TV shows with gay couples in Britain are better because in America, the vast majority of them are terrible. The only one that I can think of being good is Cameron and Mitchell from Modern Family. And it's sad that in America, the best same sex romances are in comic books.

 

[Mystirious]

The L Word had some fab same sex romances hippie_hunter. Alice and Tasha are still one of my favourite tv couples and I loved Bette and Tina too. I loved them all really

Even weird, awkward, puppy killing Jenny Schecter

Buffy, Torchwood, Lip Service, Modern Family and Glee have all had some lovely lgbt romances as well

Yes he did. He was dating Jezebel Jet all while confessing his love for Selina Kyle. And Morrison essentially refused to recognize that Bruce and Selina were "dating" in the other Batman comics.

The way Dini writes Batman and Catwoman is one of my few complaints about his stories

Guillem March did a horrific job in drawing it. Maybe it would have been better under a better artist, but I need to scour my eyes after seeing those scenes in Catwoman.

You thought so?

March is no Nicola Scott or Amanda Conner but i think his art is pretty neat. It's not jaw droppingly gorgeous like Williams but its okay I thought

What didn't you like about the art hippie hunter

 

[hippie_hunter]

The L Word had some fab same sex romances hippie_hunter. Alice and Tasha are still one of my favourite tv couples and I loved Bette and Tina too. I loved them all really

Even weird, awkward, puppy killing Jenny Schecter

Buffy, Torchwood, Lip Service, Modern Family and Glee have all had some lovely lgbt romances as well

Buffy sucks. Glee sucks. The L Word isn't mainstream American television. Lip Service has never aired in the United States and Torchwood is not an American production. Like I said, mainstream American television just doesn't portray homosexuality properly IMO. For some reason Hollywood thinks of gay people like Nick Swardson's character from I Now Pronounce You Chuck and Larry or Jack from Will & Grace instead of thinking of them as regular people.

The way Dini writes Batman and Catwoman is one of my few complaints about his stories

I actually really liked it. Dini's Batman and Catwoman are never going to get married or properly settle down, which should never happen to begin with considering their lifestyles, but they're able to fulfill each others' emotional needs.

You thought so?

March is no Nicola Scott or Amanda Conner but i think his art is pretty neat. It's not jaw droppingly gorgeous like Williams but its okay I thought

What didn't you like about the art hippie hunter

Just everything. The mouths, the body structures, the coloring, etc.

 

[HighFivingMF]

Kenny from My Name is Earl and Smithers were my favorite TV gay folk.

 

[trustyside-kick]

The way Dini writes Batman and Catwoman is one of my few complaints about his stories

I loved that about his stories.

 

[Mystirious]

Buffy sucks.

Those words are blasphemy

Just everything. The mouths, the body structures, the coloring, etc.

Huh I didn't notice anything overwhelmingly awful about it

Maybe its just me

 

[Mystirious]

I loved that about his stories.

Ah fair enough

I just wasn't that keen on it. I did like how he wrote Batman and Catwoman individually though

 

[Hush]

So are we going to see some big throw down between Supes and Darksied or is it gonna be the team effort? Which do you guys thinks?

 

[Anubis]

Hopefully, this Darksied is back to his classic power levels and owns them all and the only way they can win is through a mix of brains, subterfuge, and a whole lotta luck.

 

[Hush]

Yeah I would love to see him just lay the smackdown on them. Think we will see the Furies? I would like even Kalibak to be a powerhouse. I think what DC lacked in the past universe was REALLy strong villains, personally.