Official 'The Hobbit' Thread - Part 9

[CGHulk]

I really wish they could adapt The Silmarillion into a solid movie.

The Tolkien estate won't allow that, they hate the LOTR films and these new Hobbit films.

 

[FilmNerdJamie]

And yet they have no problem cashing those fat paychecks from the Lord of the Rings and Hobbit trilogies.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

And yet they have no problem cashing those fat paychecks from the Lord of the Rings and Hobbit trilogies.

A lot of division in the family over this. A child was disowned because of it.

 

[FilmNerdJamie]

So I heard. Idiots.

 

[CGHulk]

Royd Tolkien, great-grandson of J.R.R. Tolkien has a cameo in The Return of the King.
http://fantasiadomain.com/lotrcameo/extras.html

A lot of division in the family over this. A child was disowned because of it.

J R R Tolkien's grandson 'cut off from literary inheritance'
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...andson-cut-off-from-literary-inheritance.html

Simon Tolkien!

 

[Figs]

A lot of division in the family over this. A child was disowned because of it.

 

[Bruce Malone]

Well i finally just saw it. I'll say it was an entertaining movie but it wasn't a great piece of cinema like the trilogy was. Entertaining still, more than i actually expected. Gollum stole the show once more.

As for the 48 fps it did indeed take a while to get used to. I though it actually looked great in certain scenes such as some of the battles and i can see what Jackson was going for. Wanting it to seem as if we were actually there with them.

I think if there were previous 48fps films for us to have seen prior the adjustment may have been easier.

 

[Primal Slayer]

You would think that people would understand that you cant adapt a book properly to film. But as long as they make it good and do their best then it shouldnt be that big of a deal. Plus these films have brought in new fans who probably wouldnt have known about the books or Tolkien if it werent for the films being made.

 

[Kane52630]

Hmm..

 

[CGHulk]

You would think that people would understand that you cant adapt a book properly to film. But as long as they make it good and do their best then it shouldnt be that big of a deal.

The Hobbit has come pretty close thus far. The inclusion of Azog into the films narrative is the exception though. Thorin has a grudge towards Thranduil.

Plus these films have brought in new fans who probably wouldnt have known about the books or Tolkien if it werent for the films being made.

I'm one of those people. The movies peaked my interest to read the books, which I had no interest prior.

 

[Figs]

The Tolkien estate won't allow that, they hate the LOTR films and these new Hobbit films.

I thought you were joking about this at first.

Seems like some of Tolkien's family members are giving him what I call an Alan Moore complex.

That snooty, pretentious ********, acting like their grandfather's work was too good to be made into a movie.

 

[C. Lee]

I thought you were joking about this at first.

Seems like some of Tolkien's family members are giving him what I call an Alan Moore complex.

That snooty, pretentious ********, acting like their grandfather's work was too good to be made into a movie.

If I remember right, I heard decades ago that the only thing that J.R.R. worried about was, he didn't want his work to be turned into cartoons....and of course they became animated movies first.

 

[Figs]

If I remember right, I heard decades ago that the only thing that J.R.R. worried about was, he didn't want his work to be turned into cartoons....and of course they became animated movies first.

I wonder why some of his family are hating on the films then if he didn't mind them possibly being adapted to film.

 

[C. Lee]

I wonder why some of his family are hating on the films then if he didn't mind them possibly being adapted to film.

Family....can't live with them, can't simply send them into Mordor.

 

[Figs]

Family....can't live with them, can't simply send them into Mordor.

 

[CGHulk]

I thought you were joking about this at first.

Seems like some of Tolkien's family members are giving him what I call an Alan Moore complex.

That snooty, pretentious ********, acting like their grandfather's work was too good to be made into a movie.

http://www.thewrap.com/movies/column-post/who-hates-lord-rings-tolkien-family-47841

“I don’t think the Tolkien estate liked those films,” Jackson said in reference to the “Lord of the Rings" trilogy. “I don’t think ‘The Silmarillion’ will go anywhere for quite a long time.”

http://www.worldcrunch.com/culture-...arillion-lord-of-rings/c3s10299/#.UNfjx476rDp

“They gutted the book, making an action movie for 15-25 year olds. And it seems that The Hobbit will be of the same ilk. Tolkien became…devoured by his popularity and absorbed by the absurdity of the time. The gap widened between the beauty, the seriousness of the work, and what it has become is beyond me. This level of marketing reduces to nothing the aesthetic and philosophical significance of this work.”

 

[Mike_D202]

I actually enjoyed this one more than the entire trilogy.

 

[Figs]

http://www.thewrap.com/movies/column-post/who-hates-lord-rings-tolkien-family-47841

That was one of the articles I came across a few minutes ago when I was doing some searches in Google. I remember one in the past about his Grandson saying that the movies missed the point of his books or some outrageous horse ****. That was quite some time ago though.

 

[Figs]

Here's an article I found in relation to what I said in my previous post.

http://aidanmoher.com/blog/2012/07/asides/christopher-tolkien-on-the-lord-of-the-rings-film-trilogy/

 

[A Necessary Evil]

Yeah, I feel bad for Simon, but seriously, imo, the Tolkien's don't seem like nice people.

 

[C. Lee]

Funny that he would complain that they made it a a movie for 15 to 25 year olds...I was around 15 when I discovered the books....and so was most of the people I know who read it.

 

[CGHulk]

Funny that he would complain that they made it a a movie for 15 to 25 year olds...I was around 15 when I discovered the books....and so was most of the people I know who read it.

Well because he probably thinks the books aren't meant for younger people to read. Sounds like he has a bad case of old world ageism.

 

[Pink Ranger]

It's important to note here that Stephen King disliked Stanley Kubrick's film version of The Shining, whereas Frank Herbert liked David Lynch's film version of Dune.

 

[A Necessary Evil]

It's important to note here that Stephen King disliked Stanley Kubrick's film version of The Shining, whereas Frank Herbert liked David Lynch's film version of Dune.

Well I understand that moreso. King put his all into that book, and Torrance delt with things very personal to King himself, along with the themes of that book, and Kubrick made his own monster of a movie. (I think it is a good movie, just a awful adaptation.) Plus, if I recall correctly, King has warmed up to it in recent years.

 

[Brother Jack]

Gollum showing up again after what we saw in the first film, it would cheapen the whole thing. The other info is already passed on by Gandalf in FotR. Completely unnecessary.

Doesn't that stuff with him getting interrogated in Mordor happen during the time period in Fellowship anyway? But I agree, the "Riddles in the Dark" scene was a great showcase for Gollum and they should leave the character at that.