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At first i thought that the ultimates were outmatched, but when you look at it there Cap,Hawkeye,Wasp,and scarlett witch already fighting, now you add in
Hulk out of exile, Thor escaped from prison, Odin?, Tony in new Iron Man 6 armor, Quiksilver revived, and what looks like the rest of the MU helping in issue 12
This should be a major ass whuppin on the Liberators.
 
The Question said:
Yeah. Says he can't think of a way to top himself. Jeff Loeb and Joe Mad are taking over. Personally, if we want to retain the feel of The Ultimates, I think Warren Ellis and Frank Quietly would be a better replacement team. Their styles are similar to Millar and Hitch, but different enough so it won't be repeatetive.

That's disappointing :(
 
RAMORE said:
you won't be saying that if your stil alive when it happens:eek:

If millions of people worldwide suddenly disappeared, I would probably figure that aliens were trying to fool Christiandom into thinking that the Rapture had just occured. Smart way for aliens to invade Earth when you think of it, first they teleport millions of people into oblivion, then they holographically project "signs" for all to see in the heavens, and finally "Jesus" and his fleet of "angels" arrive, and people are too hyped up on religious bulls**t to realize that our planet is now under extraterrestrial, super-technological military occupation. :eek:
 
Issue 11 kicked ass. But...

The Abomination is FREAKIN' HUGE! At least 20 feet tall, bigger than even Ang Lee's movie version of Hulk. :eek:

How much hurt can Cap take anyway? You'd think that being SMASHED at full speed from above by someone bigger and stronger than HULK would pulp him. :confused:

And how long does it take for a helicopter to get from New York to Washington D.C.? Cap and Wasp did it, like, in one minute or something. :rolleyes:

So, is Odin the one and only true God now, or is there still place for Yahweh and Jesus? I don't think the "All-Mighty Lord" of the Old Testament is gonna like there being another PANTHEON out there (Allah will probably be pissed-off too). ;)

And the team leader of the Liberators is freakin' WONDERMAN, get over it. Practically the same suit, a big "W" on his chest (and beltbuckle), what is probably an ionic energy twin-blade lightsaber... it's him all right.

And I think they spent a little too much time on Hulk's re-introduction at the end, the artwork in that sequence was a bit all-over-the-place too.

But seeing the Thing and Spider-man in handcuffs was gold. :D

My rating: 3.5/5
 
This issue was Brilliant and the best I've read in a long time
Bruce
is Back......and his entrace was stellar and outstanding...I thought he was suppose to be MIA and involved with the wolverine vs hulk miniseries...however, this issue left me beggin for more..I give it 5 out of 5 stars for being brilliant...I never read avengers in my life but this is just too good....this is the ultimate marvel flagship title and what every other ultimate title should be like
 
Freakin awesome read....


samurai black said:
How the hell is Bruce now here in the US when he suppossed to be fighting wolverine in asia? I mean, when does Ult Hulk vs Wol take place?
Ultimate Wolverine Vs Hulk takes place long before this, Bruce has already embraced his inner self, which was hinted at in the end of issue #2 of Ult. Wolverine Vs. Hulk....


Mr Lex Luthor said:
I don't read the Ultimate Hulk versus Wolverine, so I don't really care. I'm sure it's nothing to lose sleep over. :)

read it

TheSumOfGod said:
And the team leader of the Liberators is freakin' WONDERMAN, get over it. Practically the same suit, a big "W" on his chest (and beltbuckle), what is probably an ionic energy twin-blade lightsaber... it's him all right.

ha! I know man, it is basically official, he has to be.


And Hawkeye owns. :)
 
I just re-read the issue and noticed that they captured ult spidey,thing,collossus,jean-grey(redhead behind spidey)and what looks like sue in the front. Ummm, that's alot of firepower contained without an explanation. Big plot hole. I mean is the abomination that strong to kick ben and pete's asses?
 
It's not a plot hole. Reread Issue... 10? Or 9? Whichever issue where they attacked and destroyed the Triskelion. Was that just last issue? Ah, hell, I can't remember.

The Liberators' uber forces state that they've trapped in the Fantastic Four and X-Men in their respective locations. It's not a real big stretch of imagination to figure they got Spidey when he came snooping to see what all the commotion was.

The Liberators didn't do it. They were all at the main attack location. Their super deadly army, those superhumans in the suits, attacked and contained the other heroes.

As for the rest of issue 11... I didn't think it was rushed. It's a lot of action, told primarily through the comics medium as opposed to narrated through words, so it just seemed faster, just like in a movie an action sequence is faster than a dialogue sequence. These last issues are the action sequences, heh. I, of course, was insanely excited to get home and read through the issue, so... yeah, even with the delays, the series hasn't lost its strength. It's still going, and I can't wait to get a hold of the end.

Something I was thinking of, though, that struck me funny. Those first two pages with Thor, we saw in black and white a month or two ago. It's several pages earlier in this thread. What an awesome difference with words and colors added.

Banner's return was pretty nifty, and I knew it was him in the bottom spread before he starts talking. I liked the explanation on why Loki doesn't run rampant with his powers as Thor has. Heck, I just liked those first pages with Thor, heh. But the transition for Cap and Wasp getting to Washington was kinda poorly done. Obviously it's not "one minute later," but a little caption of "Five hours later" or something like that could have been added.

Other comments: It's obvious that in these last issues Millar is making heroes out of the other Ultimates. Think about it... Thor, Iron Man, and Cap are obviously the biggies, and have been through and through - until they're taken out in this arc, leaving us, when the Liberators attack, with Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch, both of who did a whole lot before going down. Wasp is the reason Cap is able to escape and we know now can hold her own in a fight... and they're hyping it up that when Quicksilver wakes up, he's going to go nuts on the enemy. Of COURSE, we all know that when Issue 12 hits, a lot of the "big" heroes are going to get their screen time, but I look forward to what Wasp, Quicksilver, and Scarlet Witch will be doing. Hate Millar or not, not everyone makes useful the lesser characters.
 
Mr Lex Luthor said:
Well, maybe it was the huge gap between this and the last issue that made this issue seem to rush. I read the two back-to-back and they both flowed together nicely.

I don't read the Ultimate Hulk versus Wolverine, so I don't really care. I'm sure it's nothing to lose sleep over. :)

Yeah, it was hilarious when Dubya screams for his wife. I still can't believe they wrote Dubya into The Ultimates, using him as the actual President instead of a no-name. Lol.

They used Dugya as the president in Ultimates Vol !
 
Mr Lex Luthor said:
Well, maybe it was the huge gap between this and the last issue that made this issue seem to rush. I read the two back-to-back and they both flowed together nicely.

I don't read the Ultimate Hulk versus Wolverine, so I don't really care. I'm sure it's nothing to lose sleep over. :)

Yeah, it was hilarious when Dubya screams for his wife. I still can't believe they wrote Dubya into The Ultimates, using him as the actual President instead of a no-name. Lol.

They used Dugya as the president in Ultimates Vol 1
 
Mr Lex Luthor said:
Well, maybe it was the huge gap between this and the last issue that made this issue seem to rush. I read the two back-to-back and they both flowed together nicely.

I don't read the Ultimate Hulk versus Wolverine, so I don't really care. I'm sure it's nothing to lose sleep over. :)

Yeah, it was hilarious when Dubya screams for his wife. I still can't believe they wrote Dubya into The Ultimates, using him as the actual President instead of a no-name. Lol.

I dont know why my message got posted three times, SORRY
 
El Bastardo said:
It's not a plot hole. Reread Issue... 10? Or 9? Whichever issue where they attacked and destroyed the Triskelion. Was that just last issue? Ah, hell, I can't remember.

The Liberators' uber forces state that they've trapped in the Fantastic Four and X-Men in their respective locations. It's not a real big stretch of imagination to figure they got Spidey when he came snooping to see what all the commotion was. ----(That I can Believe)

The Liberators didn't do it. They were all at the main attack location. Their super deadly army, those superhumans in the suits, attacked and contained the other heroes.

You mean those same super deadly guys who were killed by the wasp? And killed by Hawkeye (no offense, he's cool as hell, just not superpowered) but these guys can take down the Thing, Sue Storm, Jean PHOENIX Grey and presumably the rest of the X-MEN (you know that group with cyclops, I CAN STOP A TRAIN Collossus, and the guy who they sent to kill the hulk) oh then there's super smart reed richards and the human torch. No way these guys can take them on.
 
Wasp took down three, I'm sure they sent about 30 times as many to take down each group. X-men, Fantastic Four and Spider-Man.
 
I didn't get this issue yet but weren't the Crimson Dynamo and the Abomination sent to take care of each respective team?:confused: I can see The Crimson Dynamo having th technology to get through the Fantastic Four and the Abomination going through the X-men with sheer force. Hell, I can see the Hulk going through the X-men with sheer force...Remember, Wolverine wasn't at the mansion during the attack.
 
Savage said:
I didn't get this issue yet but weren't the Crimson Dynamo and the Abomination sent to take care of each respective team?:confused: I can see The Crimson Dynamo having th technology to get through the Fantastic Four and the Abomination going through the X-men with sheer force. Hell, I can see the Hulk going through the X-men with sheer force...Remember, Wolverine wasn't at the mansion during the attack.

I remember reading the ish where the teams were mentioned, just thought they would have at least showed a scene or two to show how they did it, i mean Jean would've sensed the abomination coming and shut his mind down or something. Anyways, great issue, as i stated bf, seemed rushed in getting everybody together, but what the hell, can't wait until the big battle. Hulk vs Abomination!!! Ultimate Styel!!! Just it'll be forever bf we see it.
 
samurai black said:
You mean those same super deadly guys who were killed by the wasp? And killed by Hawkeye (no offense, he's cool as hell, just not superpowered) but these guys can take down the Thing, Sue Storm, Jean PHOENIX Grey and presumably the rest of the X-MEN (you know that group with cyclops, I CAN STOP A TRAIN Collossus, and the guy who they sent to kill the hulk) oh then there's super smart reed richards and the human torch. No way these guys can take them on.

Why yes, yes I do mean those same super deadly guys. Why, the same super deadly guys who took out the ENTIRE Ultimates Reserves and destroyed the Triskelion, took over the White House, as well as Manhattan, and tore down the Statue of Liberty.

Wasp killed... three. And she got a surprise hit on them, as they were expecting nothing to come from her. Hawkeye slaughtered a roomful of them, but there weren't more than, what, 20? And that's generous. It can be debated that he succeeded because Wanda made it so.

Now, consider that they sent as many to attack the FF and X-Men as they did to attack the Ultimates. Probably a little less, but... hey. Yep, Colossus is uber. Colossus can stop a train and take a tactical nuke arrow. I love Ultimate Colossus, but can he stop multiple enemies who are as strong, if not stronger, than he? I'm not giving him that much credit.

It's easy to see how each team could be easily overwhelmed by a neverending flurry of superhuman and -powered enemies. I'm sure they killed a ton of them before they went down, but the Liberators superpowered task force really does have numbers and powers on their side.
 
El Bastardo said:
Now, consider that they sent as many to attack the FF and X-Men as they did to attack the Ultimates. Probably a little less, but... hey. Yep, Colossus is uber. Colossus can stop a train and take a tactical nuke arrow. I love Ultimate Colossus, but can he stop multiple enemies who are as strong, if not stronger, than he? I'm not giving him that much credit.

It's easy to see how each team could be easily overwhelmed by a neverending flurry of superhuman and -powered enemies. I'm sure they killed a ton of them before they went down, but the Liberators superpowered task force really does have numbers and powers on their side.

And you're telling me you're not the least bit upset that they didn't even dedicate at least a page for us to see that. That's what i'm irked about the most. THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN COOL AS HELL!!
 
Yes, cool as hell, but unneeded in a book that's already behind schedule and consisting of a story that's too cramped for 12 issues, resulting in an extra 13th issue after all.

It's about what can be fit in, and... eh. If they want to include the other Ultimate heroes for the grand finale, I'm good with that. But this is The Ultimates, and so the little blurb of dialogue reporting that the FF and X-Men were contained was enough for me. The little scene with Thing and Spidey just cemented that, and served to introduce the characters for the next issue/s.

So, no, I'm not upset that I didn't see them fighting. I'll take the furthering of the story and getting to see Cap kicking ass or Tony making fun drunken humor any day.
 
Like the Ultimates and Nick Fury haven't been all over everyone else's books.
 
they sort of have, they were in X-Men recently and they were in Spider-Man, not alot and not all the time. but a little.
How did they bring down the Thing? Or any of the Fantastic Four? I understand Spider-Man but not the Fantastic Four, especially the Thing. he is almost as strong and invulnerable as the Hulk.
I can't wait till next issue.
 
The Dynomechs were heavy to,there were what 100 of those? and wuick silver took out 1?.THey could have gone through the x-mansion easily(its alot less durable then shield headquaters and heli carriers.) and it was a surprise attack with support from all sides,air with those liberator hover bases,millions of grunt troops and its not been mentioned which libs were helping,im assumming dynamo and abomination were in charge of taking out those teams,when the regrouped over the rubble they were talking about it as if atleast one of them was there.Those hand cuffs must be pretty tuff to hold thing,if thats indeed what there doing.Remember that a psy power works alot better when there not knocked out which could have easily happend,remember,shield had extensive file on all those people so somone was getting payed big bucks to find a weakness for everyone.
 
yeagh, but as soon as they aproached Xavier would have known and made them go back or hide the Mansion or something.
 
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