Pacific Rim - Part 3

[TheIrishAvenger]

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Cool photo.

 

[Autonet]

I think the point is if you are simply there for the wonder, then you will have a great time. If you are looking for a great film, something with a little depth, you won't find it.

"Cool. Love Del Toro, really want it to do well. Grew up loving the old Godzilla/Mothra/Rodan-type flicks, very curious."

"Ah yes, then you should love this. Del Toro went all out."

Sounds pretty good to me. I know that the plot isn't super deep or complicated, but I don't have an issue with that (hopefully).

I just hope it reviews mostly well to add to the WOM. It'll over-deliver to people who waved it off as complete ****.

 

[Marvin]

From Alex at First Showing who just did the PR press rounds in San Fran this weekend:

"Pacific Rim - Giant monster vs giant robot fights are extremely awesome, worth it for those alone. Would've lost my mind if I was still 12."

- Q: For those of us not 12?

"It's still very entertaining, just not a home run."

Haven't seen any other public critical reactions that have been as... honest, as this yet. Can't remember the last time he didn't sing praises of a movie he's heavily promoting.

Hard for me to find a summer movie that I wouldn't have lost my mind over had I been 12 when seeing.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Eh, I loved almost every movie when I was a teenager. Now I actually pay attention to the films, that pesky intelligence kicked in. I don't care what type of film Rim is as long as it's good. I'm not asking for the world.

 

[Autonet]

Jake interviewing the PacRim Cast

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He sucks at the CANCELLING speech. t:

 

[TheIrishAvenger]

 

[redhawk23]

You know what other movie's plot isn't super deep or complicated? Raiders of the Lost Ark. Not saying that this film will be anywhere near as good as Raiders but I'm just kind of sick of the attitude that says "Complicated= Good" because what we actually end up with 90% of the time these days is "Overly Complicated for the sake of being Complicated = convoluted half-baked crap"

 

[Poni_Boy]

Hard for me to find a summer movie that I wouldn't have lost my mind over had I been 12 when seeing.

Ditto. I honestly can't remember disliking any movie I saw when I was a kid. Which makes his statements more poignant to me. He's not outright saying it's a bad movie (I don't think he ever does), but he's definitely hinting at it when you read between the lines. Might be he doesn't want to piss off the studio since he's on the press tour on their dime.

 

[Autonet]

You know what other movie's plot isn't super deep or complicated? Raiders of the Lost Ark. Not saying that this film will be anywhere near as good as Raiders but I'm just kind of sick of the attitude that says "Complicated= Good" because what we actually end up with 90% of the time these days is "Overly Complicated for the sake of being Complicated = convoluted half-baked crap"

I was thinking the same thing. I hope it brings me back into a "Raiders" type of adventure. Just good ol' fun.

Wish I had seen it in theaters. I did see Last Crusade in theaters and the "name of God" walk gave me nightmares forever. t:

 

[Tim_Riggins]

Ditto. I honestly can't remember disliking any movie I saw when I was a kid. Which makes his statements more poignant to me. He's not outright saying it's a bad movie (I don't think he ever does), but he's definitely hinting at it when you read between the lines. Might be he doesn't want to piss off the studio since he's on the press tour on their dime.

In no way is he hinting at it, even "very entertaining but not a home run" doesnt get close to what you think you read. Script is extremely solid, this is a character driven story, if the movie has stereotypes, it's embracing those.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I have to admit I do wish that plots were more simplistic, I do find them wildly overdone these days. That being said Poni Boy has a point that the "12 year old" line could mean that the critic didn't like the film and just doesn't want to say that right now. I'm not familiar with the reviewer and although I hold no ill will towards critics in general I always judge a film that I know I'm going to see. Bad reviews could keep me away from films I'm iffy on in the first place but Del Toro has my cash regardless.

 

[Autonet]

I have to admit I do wish that plots were more simplistic, I do find them wildly overdone these days. That being said Poni Boy has a point that the "12 year old" line could mean that the critic didn't like the film and just doesn't want to say that right now. I'm not familiar with the reviewer and although I hold no ill will towards critics in general I always judge a film that I know I'm going to see. Bad reviews could keep me away from films I'm iffy on in the first place but Del Toro has my cash regardless.

I'm sure some critics will dislike the simplicity (if so) and the whole implausibility of it all. I can see people hating "Elbow Rocket!" just because he screamed it out.

Same people that critique Fast and Furious 6 for the tank/bridge catch/flying headbutt/super long runway battle/etc. I loved FF6. I was smiling the entire time. That's what I want from PR.

 

[Tim_Riggins]

I have to admit I do wish that plots were more simplistic, I do find them wildly overdone these days. That being said Poni Boy has a point that the "12 year old" line could mean that the critic didn't like the film and just doesn't want to say that right now. I'm not familiar with the reviewer and although I hold no ill will towards critics in general I always judge a film that I know I'm going to see. Bad reviews could keep me away from films I'm iffy on in the first place but Del Toro has my cash regardless.

Billington is a huge nerd/geek, problem is: he usually loves everything, that's why I find this surprising, especially considering he was all over the movie for a while now. Praise from Rian Johnson is enough for me anyway

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I'm sure some critics will dislike the simplicity (if so) and the whole implausibility of it all. I can see people hating "Elbow Rocket!" just because he screamed it out.

Same people that critique Fast and Furious 6 for the tank/bridge catch/flying headbutt/super long runway battle/etc. I loved FF6. I was smiling the entire time. That's what I want from PR.

Furious 6 is awesome, so much fun. I had a big ass grin on my face as well. It's suppose to be ridiculous and surprisingly most of the critics seemed to get that. If Del Toro does it right the ridiculousness will be apart of the film's charm.

Billington is a huge nerd/geek, problem is: he usually loves everything, that's why I find this surprising, especially considering he was all over the movie for a while now. Praise from Rian Johnson is enough for me anyway

So he's like Harry Knowles except hopefully less annoying? It's hard to know what a non superglowing review means when it comes from him if that's the case.

 

[Tim_Riggins]

Kinda, but Knowles also loves legit good movies though, I know that feeling, to be overexcited for a lot of movies. But yeah.....

 

[Autonet]

Furious 6 is awesome, so much fun. I had a big ass grin on my face as well. It's suppose to be ridiculous and surprisingly most of the critics seemed to get that. If Del Toro does it right the ridiculousness will be apart of the film's charm.

He does call it the "lightest" movie he's ever done.

“I really wanted to make a movie that had an incredibly airy and light feel,” Del Toro said the other day, reflecting on the film he had just finished.

“This is not a super-brooding, super-dark, cynical summer movie. I wanted very much to do a movie that is aiming for a young audience. Adults can be, God willing, entertained by the big, beautiful, sophisticated visuals and the action and all that, but my real hope is that this movie allows for a new generation of kaiju and robot kids that fall in love with giant monsters.”

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

^Sounds good to me. I like dark and brooding when done well and light and fluffy when done well.

 

[BrollySupersj]

Take em Tango!t:

 

[DarthSkywalker]

You know what other movie's plot isn't super deep or complicated? Raiders of the Lost Ark. Not saying that this film will be anywhere near as good as Raiders but I'm just kind of sick of the attitude that says "Complicated= Good" because what we actually end up with 90% of the time these days is "Overly Complicated for the sake of being Complicated = convoluted half-baked crap"

The plotting of films like Raiders and Empire are always underrated, but they are a big part of why they work. Just go watch everything in Cairo.

And complexity should never be looked down upon. Because when done right, it is probably the most satisfying in the overall sense. Not to mention a lot of the time "Simple=unable to write something that isn't super derivative".

 

[Rock Sexton]

The plotting of films like Raiders and Empire are always underrated, but they are a big part of why they work. Just go watch everything in Cairo.

And complexity should never be looked down upon. Because when done right, it is probably the most satisfying in the overall sense. Not to mention a lot of the time "Simple=unable to write something that isn't super derivative".

There's a real fine line though between simplicity and mindlessness. Many big blockerbusters these days don't know how to seperate the two (see all the Transformers sequels). With some of these films, I'm not asking them to stroke my desire to be intellectually fed ..... but at the same time I don't want them to assume I'll gobble up thin/contrived writing because the FX are top notch.

 

[redhawk23]

Didn't see this posted: http://bloody-disgusting.com/news/3240791/spend-12-minutes-behind-the-scenes-of-pacific-rim/

12 Minutes of behind the scenes footage

"Under Attack" http://bloody-disgusting.com/news/3...eo-featurette-explains-how-were-under-attack/

 

[DarthSkywalker]

There's a real fine line though between simplicity and mindlessness. Many big blockerbusters these days don't know how to seperate the two (see all the Transformers sequels). With some of these films, I'm not asking them to stroke my desire to be intellectually fed ..... but at the same time I don't want them to assume I'll gobble up thin/contrived writing because the FX are top notch.

True. Same can be said for complex and convoluted.

 

[Autonet]

NEW CLIP (that was shown with Falling Skies)

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[redhawk23]

And then of course there's the JJ Abrams method of being both derivative AND convoluted.