Pacific Rim - Part 4

[Poetic Chaos]

The Transformers movies always made the majority of their money internationally right? I would put this in that category.

 

[Marvin]

The movie did the same in late shows as World War Z and could only manage 14.6mil according to box office mojo while WWZ did 24.5mil. It's very fanboy frontloaded. I would be surprised if it hit 40mil. It should do 36 to 40mil. Which isn't good for a movie with a near 200mil budget. It's going to have to have some serious legs and I say good luck with the brutal competition this summer. And Grown Ups 2 did 16.3mil which was expected. Another bad hit Adam Sandler comedy.

There may be some "comp" these next few weeks but nothing is opening over 50 imo. The heavy hitters have hit and now the playing field far more level. I agree that the genre fans are inflating the early numbers but the word of mouth is far better than it could have been.
In another universe this could have had that battleship stay away word of mouth. It's run will be interesting.

In another universe Tom Cruise would have made this movie and he would have wore his new york/boston hat in the first bit. Critics would have said this is the best he's been since Top Gun. He would have taken a back end pay deal and the movie would have made it's money back.
In another world The Berg would have directed lol.

 

[Showtime]

The movie did the same in late shows as World War Z and could only manage 14.6mil according to box office mojo while WWZ did 24.5mil. It's very fanboy frontloaded. I would be surprised if it hit 40mil. It should do 36 to 40mil. Which isn't good for a movie with a near 200mil budget. It's going to have to have some serious legs and I say good luck with the brutal competition this summer. And Grown Ups 2 did 16.3mil which was expected. Another bad hit Adam Sandler comedy.

It's going to be tough for Pacific Rim to develop any sort of legs with 6 films coming out in the next couple weeks, 4 of them next weekend.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

It's going to be tough for Pacific Rim to develop any sort of legs with 6 films coming out in the next couple weeks, 4 of them next weekend.

The already awful fanboy frontloading we see is explicitly pointing to it not having legs. I'm expecting a 13-20% drop today. And 4 films next weekend is not going to help at all. Even with good word of mouth War World Z fell 55% in it's second weekend.

 

[Showtime]

The already awful fanboy frontloading we see is explicitly pointing to it not having legs. I'm expecting a 13-20% drop today. And 4 films next weekend is not going to help at all. Even with good word of mouth War World Z fell 55% in it's second weekend.

Right exactly. If it holds at a 36 Million or so weekend, at very best its looking at 18 next weekend, but that's at a 50% drop...which doesnt seem likely.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Right exactly. If it holds at a 36 Million or so weekend, at very best its looking at 18 next weekend, but that's at a 50% drop...which doesnt seem likely.

We are definitely on the same page. I'm thinking both The Conjuring and Red 2 do late 20's to mid 30's mil next weekend.

I think the thing to take away is that the domestic numbers aren't disastrous but they aren't good either. It needed 55-65mil to guarantee a shot at the budget domestically and it's well below those kinds of numbers. I said yesterday that it needed a 20mil. (18.5/19mil would have been fine as well) friday to save face and after the late show numbers it looked like it had a chance but alas it didn't happen.

 

[FilmNerdJamie]

The Conjuring takes next weekend. That's gonna be big (and notice... it's from WB; they knew this was coming).

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

The Conjuring takes next weekend. That's gonna be big (and notice... it's from WB; they knew this was coming).

Do you believe that analysts looked too much into the late shows for Pacific Rim? I mean they threw me off a bit but I still never saw it doing WWZ numbers yesterday.

 

[Hush]

His popularity comes from SOA and Hellboy. I'd like to think everyone wants a Hellboy 3 like I do, but that's probably wishful thinking on my part.

No not really, the beauty and the beast television show put him on the map along with you know about 200 other projects he has been in. Granted most will know him today from those two projects but his overall popularity comes from a very long spanning career, from voice work to live action roles. I think it takes away from him to say he is popular only from 2 roles.

 

[Liam_H]

I guess I'll take this opening weekend number all things considered. At least its not opening below $30M like some places had projected.

 

[Marvin]

If only Hellboy himself showed up.
If this was marvel he would have been in the stinger...

 

[Showtime]

We are definitely on the same page. I'm thinking both The Conjuring and Red 2 do late 20's to mid 30's mil next weekend.

It's a really good time for a horror flick and The Conjuring marketing has been fantastic.

I think the thing to take away is that the domestic numbers aren't disastrous but they aren't good either. It needed 55-65mil to guarantee a shot at the budget domestically and it's well below those kinds of numbers. I said yesterday that it needed a 20mil. (18.5/19mil would have been fine as well) friday to save face and after the late show numbers it looked like it had a chance but alas it didn't happen.

Pac Rim is obviously not going to be a huge box office contender, the writing has been on the wall for many months. However, if people enjoy it that is all that matters. We're not looking at a trilogy.

 

[Poni_Boy]

If only Hellboy himself showed up.
If this was marvel he would have been in the stinger...

If this was Marvel, Pacific Rim would be the prequel to Godzilla

 

[Kane52630]

Gipsy Danger is my hero.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

It's a really good time for a horror flick and The Conjuring marketing has been fantastic.



Pac Rim is obviously not going to be a huge box office contender, the writing has been on the wall for many months. However, if people enjoy it that is all that matters. We're not looking at a trilogy.

I can't disagree with that and the film didn't exactly end on a cliffhanger or anything so fans of the film should be happy about that and that it got made. Unfortunately for me the film didn't work for me but what are you gonna do?

I think The Conjuring looks great and I will be seeing it.

 

[Showtime]

I can't disagree with that and the film didn't exactly end on a cliffhanger or anything so fans of the film should be happy about that and that it got made. Unfortunately for me the film didn't work for me but what are you gonna do?

Absolutely. Like anything else, if you like it, that's fine. If you didn't, also fine. We're just not going to see any more films in that universe. I still think it would have been a better business strategy if they slapped Godzilla's name on it and somehow tied that in.

I think The Conjuring looks great and I will be seeing it.

I think I am going to wet my shorts out of fear.

 

[Whiskey Tango]

Deadline is reporting that the movie looks to flop with around $37m for the weekend.

http://www.deadline.com/2013/07/pac...ustralia-and-begins-baffling-global-roll-out/

Goddammit if this flops we can kiss any chance of At the Mountains of Madness goodbye. Why can't GDT catch a break?

So much for originality. If this were some craptacular remake it'd hit 100 million this weekend.

 

[Poni_Boy]

I doubt anything short of a billion dollar return on PR would convince Universal to give del Toro At the Mountains of Madness. That's a huge property for them.

 

[georgec]

Damn you, Adam Sandler.

 

[dark_b]

so now that more people watched the movie. what did you think about the big wall? i liked that they didnt make a big deal about it. that it was not the imporant part of the story.
in the first 10 minutes they introduced us to the characters and explain that the jaeger program is going to close down and that they are building big walls.

Raleigh is signing up to start helping people with the wall and he then is seeing how a kaiju destroyed it with no problem. the face on Andy (According to Jim) when he sees how bad it is. the whole work for nothing.

at the same time the wall shows how deseprate the humans are in PR. the Jaeger's are humans way to fight back the monsters. the WALL is a way to hide behind it. so you see how the humans went from badasses who go infront of the house to fight the bully and then to run inside the house and hide under the blanket. it was subtle,clear and short. in the first 10 minutes.

i liked it.but i guess it was not dark and depressed enough. characters are happy and positive. for example Raleigh lost his brother. and he is still sad. but in the scene with Newt you can see that he is slowly getting over it. Newt has a tattoo on his arm from the kaiju that killed his brother. i guess people would like PR more if Raleigh and Mako were despressed and emo. i hear movies like that make a lot money. maybe the sequel can have darkness,fallen,revenge in the title.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Absolutely. Like anything else, if you like it, that's fine. If you didn't, also fine. We're just not going to see any more films in that universe. I still think it would have been a better business strategy if they slapped Godzilla's name on it and somehow tied that in.

I think that ponying up money for an A-lister would have helped as well. No A-listers aren't guaranteed cash but I think one would have made this film look like a bigger deal in the states. It seems to be doing well internationally though but everyone knows that, for now, the U.S market is still very, very important to the studios.

I think I am going to wet my shorts out of fear.

lol The trailers have been super creepy and the cast is good. First horror film of the year that I am looking forward to.

I doubt anything short of a billion dollar return on PR would convince Universal to give del Toro At the Mountains of Madness. That's a huge property for them.

Yeah baring some amazing legs for Rim, I don't see Madness happening. At least not for 150mil and not with Del Toro as director.

 

[Poni_Boy]

I think that ponying up money for an A-lister would have helped as well. No A-listers aren't guaranteed cash but I think one would have made this film look like a bigger deal in the states

They originally wanted Tom Cruise to play Elba's role. That was before del Toro took the director's chair.

 

[ThePhantasm]

i liked it.but i guess it was not dark and depressed enough. characters are happy and positive.

I found that refreshing. The film didn't get over-absorbed in its own angst. The characters didn't let sorrow and suffering defeat them.

 

[Schlosser85]

Ugh. I'd rather have Elba than Cruise any day of the week and don't give a crap which is more "A list".

 

[Poni_Boy]

They could have kept Elba too. Imagine how much more buzz this movie would have gotten with Cruise as Pentacost and someone like Michael B. Jordan in Hunnam's role (with Elba as his brother)