Pacific Rim - Part 5

[KRYPTON INC.]

He's been depressed since the divorce man. I'm just happy Gamera and Kong had that intervention and talked him out of retirement. Plus, he really wants to work with Cranston.

 

[jacobed]

This isn't WB's best year.

It isn't? Man of steel did great, great Gatsby did great, 42 did great, they aren't going to lose much if any on this bomb. Hobbit is coming up later this year

 

[kalhawj]

uh hell yeah

Godzilla is way too big for the Jaeger. The Jaeger need to be at least 200 feet tall to have a chance at going toe to toe with the King.

Godzilla is a Category 20 Kaiju t: If they had an issue fighting Category 5 Kaiju... they have no chance against the king of giant Monster.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

It isn't? Man of steel did great, great Gatsby did great, 42 did great, they aren't going to lose much if any on this bomb. Hobbit is coming up later this year

Gangster Squad, The Incredible Burt Wonderstone and The Hangover 3 were either disappointments or flops and Jack the Giant Slayer was a John Carter style bomb. Beautiful Creatures and Bullet to the Head also flopped.

Yes MOS, Gatsby and 42 have been hits and I doubt Hangover 3 will lose money but overall they are having a rough go of it. Pacific Rim is Legendary's baby so I have a hard time putting it on Warners record one way or the other.

 

[kalhawj]

I'll admit the special FX are fun (although the main robot looks like a combination of Master Chief from Halo and Iron Man), but how this movie got so many positive reviews is beyond me. Even more than MoS, this movie is all style and no substance.

By the way, I love how they talk up the Russian and Japanese Jagers and they go down in like 2 seconds.

5/10 for me.

What's more puzzling to me is how much of a pass this movie is getting because "that's what GDT was going for"

He was going for characters that are terribly flat? I get the cliched accents. But there is literally nothing unique, or even interesting about the characters in this movie.

I'll say it again, you replace GDT's name with Bay,Abrams, or any other director and the tune would change.

I'm glad this movie is under performing, it's been my least favorite of the summer.

I agree with you both and the same reason I didn't like PR either. I see this movie is only made for Fanyboy that loves action and FX and not for the overall GA. Besides bad marketing, it's terrible plot, story, and character development is the reason why it's flopping at the BO. MOS was way better than this movie yet some Critics praise PR for it's actions and FX. Yet gave MOS bad rating at RT for too much actions. I guess Superman is a double standard. Everyone seem to have their own version of what Superman should be.

 

[dark_b]

I agree with you both and the same reason I didn't like PR either. I see this movie is only made for Fanyboy that loves action and FX and not for the overall GA. Besides bad marketing, it's terrible plot, story, and character development is the reason why it's flopping at the BO. MOS was way better than this movie yet some Critics praise PR for it's actions and FX. Yet gave MOS bad rating at RT for too much actions. I guess Superman is a double standard. Everyone seem to have their own version of what Superman should be.

i think it had a fun clear story. humans who wanted to save the world. they had problems and they were sad. but they still did the right thing. they didnt need old parents or friends to tell them what to do. they are grown up and they know what is right.

maybe it was a little to optimistic

 

[Senator Pleasury]

I agree with you both and the same reason I didn't like PR either. I see this movie is only made for Fanyboy that loves action and FX and not for the overall GA. Besides bad marketing, it's terrible plot, story, and character development is the reason why it's flopping at the BO. MOS was way better than this movie yet some Critics praise PR for it's actions and FX. Yet gave MOS bad rating at RT for too much actions. I guess Superman is a double standard. Everyone seem to have their own version of what Superman should be.

No double standard, it just happens that the action in PR was immensely better done than in MOS.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

No double standard, it just happens that the action in PR was immensely better done than in MOS.

Lets not get nuts now.

 

[Senator Pleasury]

Lets not get nuts now.

No, but finally someone who can show you first and then makes you comprehend the magnitudes and then goes all PUNCH BAM POW. MOS's action was noise and destruction so out-of-control it was far more tiring than exciting.

 

[spider-neil]

Lets not get nuts now.

Definitely preferred the action in PR and at now time did the fights become repetitive unlike MoS where it was just people punching each other over and over.

 

[Liam_H]

I'm in the camp that the action in PR was far more interesting and exciting than MoS but a lot of other people fall on the other side too.

 

[Deserana]

No, but finally someone who can show you first and then makes you comprehend the magnitudes and then goes all PUNCH BAM POW. MOS's action was noise and destruction so out-of-control it was far more tiring than exciting.

No. Man of Steel's action conveyed how it would look if two superpowered people with superspeed went at it. Absolute ******* chaos.

Pacific Rim's showed what it would be like if a big robot and huge monster went at it. Still chaos but it would be a lot slower and more exaggerated because of their size.

Both the films perfectly represented the action for their world.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

No double standard, it just happens that the action in PR was immensely better done than in MOS.

Also, this film gets more leeway because the concept was more unique, at least with regards to American cinema.

We've seen plenty of superheroes in recent years, and we've even seen Superman fight Zod before (and in a better film than Man of Steel).

 

[dark_b]

No. Man of Steel's action conveyed how it would look if two superpowered people with superspeed went at it. Absolute ******* chaos.

Pacific Rim's showed what it would be like if a big robot and huge monster went at it. Still chaos but it would be a lot slower and more exaggerated because of their size.

Both the films perfectly represented the action for their world.

i think some meant the action story. how they wrotte what happens in the fight . and how it was presented. camera work and editing.

 

[Liam_H]

No. Man of Steel's action conveyed how it would look if two superpowered people with superspeed went at it. Absolute ******* chaos.

I totally agree with this part but...I just bored after awhile.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

No, but finally someone who can show you first and then makes you comprehend the magnitudes and then goes all PUNCH BAM POW. MOS's action was noise and destruction so out-of-control it was far more tiring than exciting.

So you didn't watch Man of Steel and are still talking crap. That is interesting.

Definitely preferred the action in PR and at now time did the fights become repetitive unlike MoS where it was just people punching each other over and over.

First, completely different types of action. Secondly, I am going to start recommending glass, or perhaps stronger prescriptions for those that describe the MoS action as punching over and over again.

It is some of the most well staged, and choreographed superhero combat ever. Probably the best.

The intricacies of the Smallville battle makes other films weep. The 2 on 1 dance in the middle of the street is ridiculous.

 

[Liam_H]

I actually do love the Smallville fight but the end fight not so much.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Also, this film gets more leeway because the concept was more unique, at least with regards to American cinema.

We've seen plenty of superheroes in recent years, and we've even seen Superman fight Zod before (and in a better film than Man of Steel).

I love Superman II. Do not compare Superman vs. Zod to anything in Superman II. It is not pretty for Superman II.

i think some meant the action story. how they wrotte what happens in the fight . and how it was presented. camera work and editing.

Superman vs. Zod actually tells quite the story, and it isn't even the words they speak to one another. Zod as he begins to understand his abilities more and more. Continually changes the dynamics of the fight.

I actually do love the Smallville fight but the end fight not so much.

The Smallville throwdown is my favorite, but I also very much like Superman vs. Zod.

 

[Deserana]

i think some meant the action story. how they wrotte what happens in the fight . and how it was presented. camera work and editing.

But thats also what I meant. The way the action was done in each film reflected the world. With MoS a lot of the action was so fast because that is how it would be if you watched Zod and Superman fight it would be almost like a blur.

I understand people may not like it but to me it looked friggin awesome as to me that is how it would look and should be shown. They wouldnt punch eachother into a lone billboard which would merely collapse, they would lob eachother into skyscrapers. IMO it should be presented in a way that the cameraman is trying to keep up with what is going on.

Pacific on the other hand should be a lot more lumbering and slow. Heck even the "elbow rocket" was slow, these things were huge which as a result is gonna end in a much slower fight.

I'm not saying you should like MoS more! I'm just saying for the films they were in it was perfect it would not have worked the other way around.

 

[kalhawj]

So you didn't watch Man of Steel and are still talking crap. That is interesting.


First, completely different types of action. Secondly, I am going to start recommending glass, or perhaps stronger prescriptions for those that describe the MoS action as punching over and over again.

It is some of the most well staged, and choreographed superhero combat ever. Probably the best.

The intricacies of the Smallville battle makes other films weep. The 2 on 1 dance in the middle of the street is ridiculous.

Well said...

I actually do love the Smallville fight but the end fight not so much.

Same could be said about the last fight with the category 5 Monster. That fight was weak and wasn't even as good as the previous fight when the two Category 4 destroy all but two Jaeger... What's the point of having their leader join the fight and not have a team up battle but instead they both got man handle and one went into blowing up itself...

 

[Liam_H]

I do agree that the last fight wasn't nearly as good as the Hong Kong and that a bit more things could've been done to make it more interesting/thrilling.

 

[Deserana]

Yeah I don't know what it is with blockbuster films have better mid-film action sequences than final battles. To name a few from the top of my head -
Pacific Rim (Hong Kong over Underwater)
Man of Steel (Smallville over Metropolis)
The Dark Knight (Batpod chase over SWAT team)
The Dark Knight Rises (Sewer fight over City brawl)
Mission Impossible 4 (Dubai over Car parking place)
Iron Man (Fighter Jets over Iron Monger)
Kick Ass (Big Daddy's death over D'Amico apartment)

I can think of others but I'm not sure people would agree.

 

[kalhawj]

Yeah I don't know what it is with blockbuster films have better mid-film action sequences than final battles. To name a few from the top of my head -
Pacific Rim (Hong Kong over Underwater)
Man of Steel (Smallville over Metropolis)
The Dark Knight (Batpod chase over SWAT team)
The Dark Knight Rises (Sewer fight over City brawl)
Mission Impossible 4 (Dubai over Car parking place)
Iron Man (Fighter Jets over Iron Monger)
Kick Ass (Big Daddy's death over D'Amico apartment)

I can think of others but I'm not sure people would agree.

I have to disagreed. The fight between Superman and Zod was so Epic... IT could be debated that it was better than the smallville sequence. Their dual and power cause major destruction... One of the best fight scenes ever done ending with Zod being killed. That there left me speechless. I don't recall any movie doing that that I've ever seen. Yes it left a lot of folks divided, but it did what it was meant to do... Get people talking and debating about it... I actually like the ending as is. Showing us the event that Superman draw the line and establish his "I will never killed again rule".

 

[Deserana]

I have to disagreed. The fight between Superman and Zod was so Epic... IT could be debated that it was better than the smallville sequence. Their dual and power cause major destruction... One of the best fight scenes ever done ending with Zod being killed. That there left me speechless. I don't recall any movie doing that that I've ever seen. Yes it's left a lot of folks divided but it did what it was meant to do... Get people talking and debating about it... I actually like the ending as is. Showing us the event that Superman draw the I will never killed again rule.

Oh don't get me wrong I completely agree but on the MoS boards the consensus seemed to be the Smalville battle over the end fight. My jaw dropped when Zod started flying and they proceeded to fight in the air.

 

[kalhawj]

Oh don't get me wrong I completely agree but on the MoS boards the consensus seemed to be the Smalville battle or the end fight. My jaw dropped when Zod started flying and they proceeded to fight in the air.

Fanboy like the Smallville scene better because of how bada## Faora was... She was the one that made that scene awesome t:. But MOS had two epic actions sequence that to some was too much for them to handle...