Part VI (Spoiler Thread)

[antsman41]

Welp, just dropping by quick here to say I really enjoyed the finale and overall, while the show definitely had major issues, there was more good than bad imo.

I'll leave most of you to hyperbolically rip this show to pieces as per use.

This.

It's not perfect, but we got some long due praise/credit with resolve to Hayden/Ewan's take on these characters. We got Vader kicking major ass, Obi coming around to HOPE for the Galaxy, a fun and heartfelt young Leia; showing her intent to help the rebellion.

Let alone... Owen's reluctance towards Ben, BAIL (Pro Smits/No Bits) ORGANA, an ~AOTC era training session, 3x dope lightsaber fights (that were sorely lacking in the ST - except for the dope TLJ fight).

****. I don't expect this to be written as well as Mr. Robot, BrBa, etc. // I'll take all we can get with these above notions. Especially concerning that its 2022, and we're lucky to even get anything with Ewan or Hayden this long after ROTS.

 

[Prison Mike]

What gets me is that it seems people on social media wanted this show to be episode 6 but stretched out over the course of all the 6 episodes. Which would have been impossible.

In that case, maybe a 2 hour movie would have been better but I’m sure then they would want a trilogy of Obi-Wan movies.

 

[Filmfan93]

This.

It's not perfect, but we got some long due praise/credit with resolve to Hayden/Ewan's take on these characters. We got Vader kicking major ass, Obi coming around to HOPE for the Galaxy, a fun and heartfelt young Leia; showing her intent to help the rebellion.

Let alone... Owen's reluctance towards Ben, BAIL (Pro Smits/No Bits) ORGANA, an ~AOTC era training session, 3x dope lightsaber fights (that were sorely lacking in the PT - except for the dope TLJ fight).

****. I don't expect this to be written as well as Mr. Robot, BrBa, etc. // I'll take all we can get with these above notions. Especially concerning that its 2022, and we're lucky to even get anything with Ewan or Hayden this long after ROTS.

This.

A lot of people take this show for granted and how possible it was (at certain point in time) to not get any new Ewan/Hayden content at all.

I am happy with what we got. Heck, I was 11 in May 2005 and remember walking out of the cinema bittersweet, not expecting anymore PT content ever again. Not only this - I didn't even expect to see the Rogue One version of Vader again, but guess what? I have - in 3 Kenobi episodes. And I can't express how happy I am (maybe I can - my avvy itself should explain how big of a Vader fan I am).

Is it flawless? No piece of media ever is. But I am a happy fan that appreciates what we got and i've decided to focus on the good stuff about it.

But leave the real haters shred this to pieces, or also known as its own worst enemy - the actual SW fanbase

 

[Gothamsknight]

In that case, maybe a 2 hour movie would have been better but I’m sure then they would want a trilogy of Obi-Wan movies.

I honestly think Obi Wan is better suited for a show, and while I don't think the Kenobi show was perfect, I thought it was good enough. There's a lot of fantastic things in this show for me. Having Ewan and Hayden back was a miracle, and having more stories involving Obi Wan that feels like a natural progression from the PT to the OT is just awesome. I love it!

 

[antsman41]

Gosh, their best work was truly putting a button on the whole "why does he call him Darth / he lied to Luke about Anakin dying" loophole. Honestly for how messy some staging/plotting was in e3-4; I simply don't care. This finale really threaded that needle with Obi's loss of Anakin's spirit... tears.

 

[Another_Fool]

Well, I think they nailed the finale. Damn. That was pretty good. The show really needed this.

Ewan was always great in the prequels, but I thought the emotion he displayed at the end of the duel in the finale was how I used to envision how he'd express his heartbreak at the end of the prequels. Pretty satisfied.

 

[Still Wynning]

*walks into thread*

*reads ongoing “discourse”*




*sigh*

Like I said before on this board, people’s opinions online don’t represent the real world.

Loved this episode. Had a few issues with it, but overall I enjoyed it. Emotional moments worked for me. Vader versus Obi-Wan was great. Thought it ended on a good note and place.

Continue engaging online about this series with stuff that most people in the real world don’t even care about. I don’t have the energy or wherewithal to engage in it myself anymore. I have enough in regards to physical therapy and self-care to recover from back and chest pain/injury and real life to care about this as much as people on here do. It’s why I don’t post on here as frequently as I used to. To quote a certain crazy old hermit, “I’m getting too old for this sort of thing.”

I love Star Wars, and always will, but not enough to use my energy arguing about supposed logical inconsistencies and stuff breaking canon. If you’re willing to go that far, maybe you should “go home and rethink your life.“

At the end of the day, it’s just a TV series.

 

[Gothamsknight]

I definitely think a lot of Star Wars fans, or the more critical ones, will always have a hard time truly enjoying something new from the franchise. One observation I've made with the fanbase is that childhood memories plays a HUGE part in their love, and that's a double edged word. I was 6 years old around the time Phantom Menace came out, so I grew up with the prequels. Seeing all these old characters again felt great! sure there was some flaws, but in the grand scheme of things, its so cool we got more stories with them. There's no sense in wasting time with "what could have been" because it was never gonna please everybody anyway and none of the flaws in the show derailed it to the point where it wasn't enjoyable.

 

[Still Wynning]

I definitely think a lot of Star Wars fans, or the more critical ones, will always have a hard time truly enjoying something new from the franchise. One observation I've made with the fanbase is that childhood memories plays a HUGE part in their love, and that's a double edged word. I was 6 years old around the time Phantom Menace came out, so I grew up with the prequels. Seeing all these old characters again felt great! sure there was some flaws, but in the grand scheme of things, its so cool we got more stories with them. There's no sense in wasting time with "what could have been" because it was never gonna please everybody anyway and none of the flaws in the show derailed it to the point where it wasn't enjoyable.

I’ll admit, I myself have had trouble letting go of certain things in regards to the canon of Star Wars and what it means to me, especially in regards to the prequels. But as I’ve gotten older, I have learned to not be so precious about the things that I love, and have even accepted some things I once rejected when I was younger.

Star Wars is a living, breathing document and is always changing and adding new things. Nothing is completely set in stone. I don’t like or even love every single thing that comes out of it, but I still accept it as part of the thing that I love. Accepting change as it comes, even if it’s not for you or something you wanted or love, and learning to live with it, maybe even learn from it, for a time or even the rest of your life, and to not dwell on it and move forward.

I guess it’s a lot like life in that way.

 

[Another_Fool]

I mean one also lost a planet. And a lady bug droid.

Leia's true Force power must be the ability to mentally block out what should be traumatic events. I'm stunned she never even once addressed to her death the emotional damage she should've sustained after realizing she at one time swapped spit with her brother.

 

[Eggyman]

My wife's farts are super rich. She can be dismissive, abrupt, rude and stubborn. She kicks me in her sleep. Despite this, I love her deeply.

Same with OB1. Some flatulent episodes for sure but I love it overall. Didn't have to be top tier. What I wanted, I got. I wanted OB1 to get a bit more focus having always been part of a duo, the not chosen one. I've always thought of him as the quintessential jedi, perfectly balanced and I enjoyed his arc back to that. He brought the power in this last episode and it needed to happen for his and Darth's next convo to make sense.

 

[KaijuDude1992]

It is what it is at this point and if people really enjoyed or loved this show, I have nothing against that and while I mostly enjoyed the episode myself, I just can't help but feel disappointed in the overall quality of this show because the potential was definitely there for something great or at least more competently put together.

There were some really great moments in this episode like finally getting to see burnt to a crisp Anakin have a pretty heartfelt scene with Obi-Wan and all you see Hayden acting with his eyes which was fantastic, and I wish we got more stuff like that throughout this show because those little moments add so much to these characters.

I actually think I loved that moment the most and even more so than the battle itself between Darth and Obi-Wan which was dope, but again I appreciated the character driven moments more in this episode.

Ewan really brought his A game to in this episode too because there is no way scenes like that would have worked if he wasn't such a great actor, but we really needed more moments like that.

I also still stand by the Reeva character being completely pointless and adding nothing to this show other than just being another obstacle in the way of Leia and Obi-Wan and honestly this show would have been so much better without her, especially if they couldn't give the Moses Ingram better material to work with.

 

[Kev4000]

I never was into Star Wars that much, but i think this series as a whole is just.. there. Really disappointed with Reva supporting plot here, it was kind of unnecessary to me. Killing her in the end of epidode 5 would have been more impactful to me. I was looking up to the Liam Neeson scene here, but it felt rushed and not really emotional. I liked the fight between Obi Wan and Vader here, I never get tired of these light reflection in characters eyes.

So all in all, the series was okay for. I doubt I will ever rewatch this and I dont need a second season. I think they fleshed out everything possible here.

 

[Frodo]

Count me in among those who loved the episode, and enjoyed this first season.

This episode is another one of those in which I have a really hard time finding fault in it .

They were never going to please or satisfy everyone, and there's still alot of bitterness and division in the SW fandom post The ST.

But I think that the series is among the better installments in the SW canon .
It's not perfect , but I think it's pretty good imo.

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

This episode was peak Star Wars for me. Absolutely loved it!

 

[NotNickFury]

This.

It's not perfect, but we got some long due praise/credit with resolve to Hayden/Ewan's take on these characters. We got Vader kicking major ass, Obi coming around to HOPE for the Galaxy, a fun and heartfelt young Leia; showing her intent to help the rebellion.

Let alone... Owen's reluctance towards Ben, BAIL (Pro Smits/No Bits) ORGANA, an ~AOTC era training session, 3x dope lightsaber fights (that were sorely lacking in the ST - except for the dope TLJ fight).

****. I don't expect this to be written as well as Mr. Robot, BrBa, etc. // I'll take all we can get with these above notions. Especially concerning that its 2022, and we're lucky to even get anything with Ewan or Hayden this long after ROTS.

You were never gonna get that level of quality from a Star Wars show anyway.

 

[Holy Slapper]

No, I'm arguing with you. As for George, he's the guy that forgot Obi-Wan had to pick up Anakin's lightsaber in RotS and had Luke make out with his sister. So stop, and engage in the argument.

Second, it's Luke's mission. Yoda, dead. Obi-Wan, dead. Yoda tries to provide Luke with the tools to decide how to handle the situation, because he's the last of the Jedi and Yoda's a whole lot wiser then Obi-Wan, without the deeply personal connection to Anakin. He knows him, but it's not the same.. Obi-Wan does not. He caught feelings. He's there for the death of Anakin. If he isn't explain his dialogue in this scene:



Luke: There's still good in him.

Obi-Wan: He's more machine now the man. Twisted and evil.

Luke: I can't do it, Ben.

Obi-Wan: You cannot escape your destiny. You must face Darth Vader again.

Luke: I can't kill my own father.

Obi-Wan: Then the Emperor has already won. You were our only hope.

How is that not Obi-Wan telling Luke to kill his papa? When Luke tells him he won't do it, he tells Luke, well that's ball game. The dark side wins, let's go home.

I thought it was obvious Obi-Wan was telling him to kill Darth Vader so that Anakin Skywalker could be saved.

 

[Frodo]

So many great moments in the finale.

One of them was Vader saying with a smile , " You didn't kill Anakin Skywalker. I did ".

It was so creepy since we can't see what his expressions are behind the mask.

It makes me wonder how many times he had a sadistic grin on his face under the mask when thrashing imperial officers or toying with adversaries .

It also further justifies Obi Wan's , " From a certain point of view line" since Darth Vader truly is someone else.

That scene was just one of many I loved about the finale.
I don't care if it breaks canon . It was a good scene.

 

[Another_Fool]

Well at least the duel was in one spot give or take a couple of yards. We didn't have to watch Vader and Kenobi walking all over the planet. Or climb up and down those rocks. So Kenobi beats the prime version of Anakin/Vader, then the overpowered version of Darth Vader. I mean at this point I don't see why Kenobi doesn't just go after Sidious. Between him and Yoda they should be able to handle the emperor.

I think these are fair points. For me, that kind of thing doesn't bother me as long I buy the adversary as a match up problem over an overpowered Vader, which Obi-Wan fits for me. Because like in sports, a team may be a juggernaut but at times there are just some teams that just match up well despite the talent differential. Sort of like Bill Belichick and the New England Patriots having unfathomable difficulty beating Eli Manning and Tom Coughlin. Yet Eli and Coughlin had trouble solving the McNabb/Reid Philadelphia Eagles. You may not know what I'm talking about if you never gave a crap about the NFL, so my bad in advance.

But yeah thankfully it worked for me, but I can understand the gripe.

 

[antsman41]

You were never gonna get that level of quality from a Star Wars show anyway.

Duh, that's why I stated that myself.

 

[Another_Fool]

I thought it was obvious Obi-Wan was telling him to kill Darth Vader so that Anakin Skywalker could be saved.

In fairness, I don't know that was the initial way George Lucas intended it but especially after Lucas decided to change his mind and say Star Wars was really Anakin's story, I'm sure he retroactively wanted that to be the read. Hard to say because he changed his mind a lot but I tend to subscribe to your take.

 

[Shinobi Shaw]

I want Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru action figures after this episode.

 

[Arachnerd]

Those two definitely put up a fight before they were burned to a crisp in ANH with this finale in mind.

 

[moviefreak]

I didn't really bother with any of the Disney Star Wars stuff. I didn't even watch 'The Last Jedi', 'The Rise of Skywalker' & 'Solo'. I have only seen 'The Force Awaken', 'Rogue One' and the first couple of Mandalorian season 1 episodes.

Well I had to do it. I binged watched 'Obi-Wan Kenobi', as I'm intrigued by McGregor & Christensen being in the cast. I enjoyed it for the most part.

The last episode is quite special, especially the duel between Obi-Wan Kenobi & Darth Vader in that dark, desolated setting reminding me of some of the Star Wars comics that I used to browse a couple of decades ago. It also reminded me about the last meeting between them in episode IV in 1977, particular the dialogue between old Kenobi & Vadar.

The cinematography of the last episode was so good and I especially like the fluctuation of the red & blue light on Vadar’s face as if he’s in an internal conflict, then it went red as Kenobi said his goodbye. The way Vadar let Reva off and the way Kenobi let Vadar off were both consistent with the not so consistent lore on Jedi & Sith.

Despite what many online critics think, this series is very much in the vein of Lucas' Star Wars of the 1970s & 1980s. It was, after all, a children's fantasy film as Lucas originally envisioned. Complete with chunky dialogue. I was in the theatre in 1977, the original film is no longer possible to see except in a few bootlegs & fanedits. Back then it was all about the spectacles and less about if anything made sense. Only a fool would try to make it so. Jar-Jar even forgive us. lmao.

Star Wars TV series could never approach the high drama of shows like The Wire, West Wing, Sopranos.

 

[GothamCity]

What a beautifull emotioninal and great action packed episode this was. Part 6 is the best thing Disney has done with the SW material.