Prometheus - Part 7

[spider-neil]

imho the

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C section

is possibly one of the greatest sequences commited to film

 

[CapedCrusader14]

Just type [*SPOILER] Content [/SPOILER*] without the *.

Okay thanks for that, I thought that was how it was done. I'll start writing

 

[TheComicbookKid]

Okay, can someone please explain something to me:

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I'm reading about how this was apparently "not the same planet nor the same ship as Alien," and I'm just not buying it.

I can go out on a limb and say that it could be a different planet, simply because it was a different environment (sunlight, etc.) and a different name than LV-426.

HOWEVER: the friggin alien ship is exactly the same design as in Alien and while it's obvious that the "Engineers" could have other ships that are the same design, why would they bother to A: set up the "engineer in the chair" B: set up the ship crashing/stranded C: have the ship land in the pretty much the exact same way it's found in Alien?

I just don't see WTF the point was if it actually was supposed to be a different planet and ship. So, now, there would be a different crashed alien ship on a different planet in the same system for some reason that just happens to have the same alien lifeforms on board that David accidentally created on the Prometheus?

I feel like my brain is melting.

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There are multiple ships. We see Elizabeth take off on one.

The engineer wasn't in the chair so it can't be the same ship. No hole in the chest.

That's kind of why I suspect they were scientist. All of them working on different ships/planets on the same problem. The Aliens existed before the Prometheus landed cause it seen on the mural of the pyramid[/BLACKOUT].

 

[Motown Marvel]

We'll never find common ground there. I think 2001 is one of the 10 or even 5 best works of cinema ever made. Prometheus
was an okay version of Planet of the Vampires.

ha ha ha ha.

I'll take your word for it that the DC fixes a lot a problem but I can't see myself watching any version of KoH again as I was so put off by the original movie.

watching the directors cut of kingdom of heaven made me realize the movie wasnt god awful because of what it was missing. the directors cut is just a bad movie made longer.

 

[ShadowBoxer]

I am about to see this tonight. The word of mouth has been good so far. For those that have seen it yay or nay on 3D?

 

[Wyrminarrd]

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It's clearly not the same planet since the atmosphere's are very different plus the planet in Alien seemed a lot further from it's sun.

The "engineers" clearly had a favorite design for their ships that all used the same control chair for interstellar travel. It was only shown in Prometheus so that people wouldn't complain about it's absence. Plus the "engineer" didn't die in his chair on this ship.

 

[Kane52630]

I am about to see this tonight. The word of mouth has been good so far. For those that have seen it yay or nay on 3D?

3D was pretty good and it worked really well in some scenes.

 

[Balthus Dire]

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They said that on that planet alone there were dozens of other ships like that - they even use one to get away. Maybe somewhere else on the planet there's another ship crashed the same way.

So...

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another ship just happened to blow up/split open in the same spot as the one from Alien (in the middle) and crash in the same (or similar) spot as the one from Alien and the pilot even managed to get face-huggered like the guy in Prometheus (even thought there were no face-huggers present until David's experiment)?

Like, I just don't buy it. If they were so concerned about not making this a direct prequel, they should've just

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left any traces of the Xenomorphs out of the movie entirely except for maybe the mural on the wall in the Engeineer's ship.

That way, it would've been it's own film with nods to the Alien franchise without actually being the inconsistent mess it is now.

 

[CapedCrusader14]

Alrighty then. Here's my little theory post:

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I know that it seems that the Engineer at the very beginning may have been a rogue, going against his fellow Engineers, but there's no proof of that. I believe there is a chance that the Engineers STOLE the black liquid from their gods and used it to create humanity. They were punished by their gods and the liquid they were experimenting on, unexpectedly became a weapon, which led to their downfall. It's a pretty wild theory I know. Hell, the Engineers deaths are symbolic of Prometheus himself; some had their abdomens destroyed and exposed, except with a lot less intestine torture perhaps their long term goal was to create a new species in the same image as their gods.

To put it simply:

Zeus and the Gods - Engineers' Gods

Prometheus - Engineers

Fire/ Lump of Clay - Black Liquid

 

[NewYorkSpider]

8/10

 

[Asteroid-Man]

So...

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another ship just happened to blow up/split open in the same spot as the one from Alien (in the middle) and crash in the same (or similar) spot as the one from Alien and the pilot even managed to get face-huggered like the guy in Prometheus (even thought there were no face-huggers present until David's experiment)?

Like, I just don't buy it. If they were so concerned about not making this a direct prequel, they should've just

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left any traces of the Xenomorphs out of the movie entirely except for maybe the mural on the wall in the Engeineer's ship.

That way, it would've been it's own film with nods to the Alien franchise without actually being the inconsistent mess it is now.

Yeah, nevermind. That's stupid and even goes against my own theories. Haha. I think it's just supposed to be like Star Trek - an indirect prequel. Subtle differences. An alternate reality.

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Because keep in mind, the original Space Jockey's ship had eggs in it, this one had the black ooze containers.

 

[spider-neil]

I am about to see this tonight. The word of mouth has been good so far. For those that have seen it yay or nay on 3D?

it's FILMED in 3D so imho it's worth the extra money. However I watched it in IMAX 3D so I have no idea what quality REAL 3D is like.

 

[craigdbfan]

3D was pretty good and it worked really well in some scenes.

Avatar good?

 

[spider-neil]

Avatar good?

I don't think so but it is certainly the 2nd best live action 3D movie I've seen.

 

[Kane52630]

Avatar good?

Not Avatar good but it was close enough...however I must say I saw the trailer for The Great Gatsby in 3D and it was AS good as Avatar in 3D...holy crap

 

[ShadowBoxer]

3D was pretty good and it worked really well in some scenes.

Okay cool! I went ahead and got the 2D showing. Maybe I will catch it in 3D on a second viewing if I really, like the movie lol.

 

[moviedoors]

Avatar good?

There's no vertigo inducing climbing or flying sequences, but it really is damn good 3-D. All the various holographic projections look gorgeous.

 

[TheOnlyOmega]

Alrighty then. Here's my little theory post:

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I know that it seems that the Engineer at the very beginning may have been a rogue, going against his fellow Engineers, but there's no proof of that. I believe there is a chance that the Engineers STOLE the black liquid from their gods and used it to create humanity. They were punished by their gods and the liquid they were experimenting on, unexpectedly became a weapon, which led to their downfall. It's a pretty wild theory I know. Hell, the Engineers deaths are symbolic of Prometheus himself; some had their abdomens destroyed and exposed, except with a lot less intestine torture perhaps their long term goal was to create a new species in the same look as their gods.

To put it simply:

Zeus and the Gods - Engineers' Gods

Prometheus - Engineers

Fire/ Lump of Clay - Black Liquid

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I see the engineer at the beginning as a rogue, as the ship was seen leaving in the background, and according to the art book there was supposed to be another engineer there, and I'd assume he was looking down upon the self sacrifice. In my opinion.
Zeus and the other gods-The Engineers
Prometheus-The rogue engineer

 

[Tony Stark]

Not quite what I was expecting, but a good film none the less. A nice setup at the end for a sequel in the future.

8/10

 

[Doctor Jones]

Seriously...

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Not the same ship? My God, I'm gonna pretend I didn't hear that. I guess all those comments over the years from Scott and set ups in the film were for nothing then.

 

[mclay18]

Also, as cringe inducing as the scene was, Noomi Rapace has a tight ass body on her. I was like, damn.

You didn't see the Swedish Girl With the Dragon Tattoo? She shows pretty much everything in that one.

 

[Doctor Jones]

I forgot to mention earlier, did anyone else catch the Aliens reference when Holloway yelled, "DAVID! WE ARE LEAVING!"

Yes.

I'm glad I wasn't the only one. Also when

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Janek ran over Fifiled reminded me when they ran over the xenomorph with the tank in Aliens.

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Then why bother with different numbers? Plus, like someone else pointed out, they have proposed a sequel which should bridge the gap. This didn't cover the whole story.

You could still put it together.

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Weyland probably got wind of what happened and changed the name of the planet to erase any potential suspicion. Plus, years go by. Do we know how they classify these things? Why are the numbers even significant to the planet?

 

[mclay18]

imho the

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C section

is possibly one of the greatest sequences commited to film

Oh it is. That and the

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scene where Noomi is ambushed by the Engineer and sics the alien monster on it

alone are worth buying it on home video. Especially the former scene.

 

[CapedCrusader14]

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I see the engineer at the beginning as a rogue, as the ship was seen leaving in the background, and according to the art book there was supposed to be another engineer there, and I'd assume he was looking down upon the self sacrifice. In my opinion.
Zeus and the other gods-The Engineers
Prometheus-The rogue engineer

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I forgot about the ship leaving at the beginning, but that could also be viewed as The Engineers leaving that one Engineer to be the sacrifice in the grand scheme of things. Many people do believe that the Engineer at the beginning is Prometheus though and I'm fine with that, it's pretty damn cool. I still like my theory though

 

[Balthus Dire]

Seriously...

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Not the same ship? My God, I'm gonna pretend I didn't hear that. I guess all those comments over the years from Scott and set ups in the film were for nothing then.

EXACTLY.

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Why bother with all the setups if it's not even supposed to be the same ship???

And I'm also with you on the 426 thing. They could've easily renamed the planet when it eventually became near-inhospitable as it appears in Alien and Aliens. Also, the 426 didn't even show up until Aliens IIRC, so who knows?