Endgame Qs/ things you liked/disliked/wanted to see in Endgame [SPOILERS]

[DrCosmic]

I was hoping we'd get the Thanos copter.

We didn't even get a nod to that.

Actually, the way he spun his weapon...

Likes:
Cap and Mew-mew
Ending stories! They said the MCU couldn't do it and they did!
Great character moments all throughout
Time Travel that works (INCLUDING macguffin-based timelines and Cap existing simultaneously with his past self)
FalconCap Confirmed!

Dislikes:
Captain Marvel needed another strong character moment, like she had with Peter in the final battle.
ProfessorHulk needed a finale moment - not a Hulk Smash moment, but something that captures how Banner has evolved, that is the best of both worlds, something Hulk couldn't do on his own, a problem that isn't just brute strengthable, but isn't just science either.
Nebula should have had the football for the AForce moment (ala Nando V Movies fix), not Carol who doesn't need it, she just needed a couple character moments that were wasted on her saying 'I'm busy' twice.
Dr. Strange should have handled the children of Thanos, not been sidelined by a wave while they lost all potency

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Actually, the way he spun his weapon...

Likes:
Cap and Mew-mew
Ending stories! They said the MCU couldn't do it and they did!
Great character moments all throughout
Time Travel that works (INCLUDING macguffin-based timelines and Cap existing simultaneously with his past self)
FalconCap Confirmed!

Dislikes:
Captain Marvel needed another strong character moment, like she had with Peter in the final battle.
ProfessorHulk needed a finale moment - not a Hulk Smash moment, but something that captures how Banner has evolved, that is the best of both worlds, something Hulk couldn't do on his own, a problem that isn't just brute strengthable, but isn't just science either.
Nebula should have had the football for the AForce moment (ala Nando V Movies fix), not Carol who doesn't need it, she just needed a couple character moments that were wasted on her saying 'I'm busy' twice.
Dr. Strange should have handled the children of Thanos, not been sidelined by a wave while they lost all potency

I would argue Banner/Hulk had his moment as you described, something only he in that state could accomplish, with the use of the Gauntlet. His physical form with Banner's precise mind made the resurrection possible.

 

[DrCosmic]

I would argue Banner/Hulk had his moment as you described, something only he in that state could accomplish, with the use of the Gauntlet. His physical form with Banner's precise mind made the resurrection possible.

I think that's what they were going for, but it didn't strike me as very climactic. There was no resolution (like, seeing Nat in the soul realm or something post-snap), the character didn't emerge changed, they just faded into the background. Not very satisfying.

 

[jolldan]

Doesn't really bother me but would have loved to have seen Hulk get the arm from the Hulk-Buster to act as a sort of cast in the final showdown. Also would have let us have a hulk punch repulsor blast combo.

(Understand with the million and one things they had to do there was probably no time or budget for this though)

 

[Dark Raven]

Doesn't really bother me but would have loved to have seen Hulk get the arm from the Hulk-Buster to act as a sort of cast in the final showdown. Also would have let us have a hulk punch repulsor blast combo.

(Understand with the million and one things they had to do there was probably no time or budget for this though)

There was plenty of budget for some Hulk fights though. Instead of having him walk round as Hulk for half the film, they could've had him as Banner sometimes, and then used some of the mo-cap Hulk budget for the final fight.

 

[shabadoo25]

Curious as to why we got Maw but not Proxima in this one.

 

[Spider-Fan]

Proxima I am very sure was in there during the final battle.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

Proxima I am very sure was in there during the final battle.

She was there. She just didn't do much.

 

[metaphysician]

Yeah, she was there, as was Corvus Glaive. They just kind of blended in during the final battle. Which kind of makes sense. Sure, they are powerful, but without the advantage of surprise, the Black Order are ultimately only powerful on the level of individual Avengers. When faced against literally dozens of Avengers and equivalent heroes, backed by no less than four armies of "mooks", several of whom stretch the definition of "mook" way past the breaking point? They get lost in the tide.

 

[Dark Raven]

I wish they used Driving with the Top Down from Iron Man 1 in Endgame. It would've brought things full circle and would've been fitting for Iron Man's last outing. I still prefer that Iron Man theme to all the others and is the one I most associate with him.

 

[ScarlettW]

I hate the end of Steve Rogers and the death of Nat.

 

[JtheDreamer]

Forgot to say that I really disliked Tony miraculously figuring out both time time travel and how to build a gauntlet that can sustain all the Infinity Stones. Was definitely too cartoonish for me.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

 

[Dark Raven]

I wish Tony Stark built some kind of suit while he was stranded in space to get him home instead of having to rely on Captain Marvel. It was the equivalent of him being stuck in that cave in Iron Man 1. If he built another relatively primitive suit in less-than-ideal conditions, it would've been a nice mirror to the first MCU film.

 

[KevTravels]

I wish we got to see War Machine and the HULK have more action sequences. They're some BIG GUNS and yet didn't do much (action wise) this film.

 

[I Am The Knight]

Forgot to say that I really disliked Tony miraculously figuring out both time time travel and how to build a gauntlet that can sustain all the Infinity Stones. Was definitely too cartoonish for me.

Yeah I wasn't a fan of Tony being able to make the Iron Gauntlet. This is why I didn't want them to have their own Gauntlet and disliked that since I read the spoilers, but with a movie as packed as this one and the kind of problem they had to solve, I guess it was the best solution.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Yeah I wasn't a fan of Tony being able to make the Iron Gauntlet. This is why I didn't want them to have their own Gauntlet and disliked that since I read the spoilers, but with a movie as packed as this one and the kind of problem they had to solve, I guess it was the best solution.

Well I presume that they had the fried Gauntlet from after killing Thanos to base theirs on. If you can accept another idea along those lines, being it was Stark tech that's how Tony got the stones at tbe end. During his tussle in the finale with Thanos over the Gauntlet he basically had his nanotech armor hack the glove, eject the stones and attach them to his suit and then he used specs in his data base to have his armor adapt on the fly into a makeshift Gauntlet configuration which could channel the stones' power well enough to do what he did.

As for the time travel it should be noted he didn't come up with that whole cloth. He didn't invent Pym particles or discover the potential time warping aspect of the Quantum realm. He was presented with the issue of how you could navigate through the Quantum realm to make a safe trip through it to another time and back, thus the "Time GPS" and platform/Quantum Tunnel that it worked in conjunction with. The method to access the Quantum realm was not created by him so that is half the battle right there. At least that's how I view it.

 

[JtheDreamer]

Every time I watch that end battle sequence I keep wishing they utilized a lot more group teamwork shots to better showcase the abilities in a fight like that instead of letting some characters simply drift off into the CGI background.

 

[JtheDreamer]

Well I presume that they had the fried Gauntlet from after killing Thanos to base theirs on. If you can accept another idea along those lines, being it was Stark tech that's how Tony got the stones at tbe end. During his tussle in the finale with Thanos over the Gauntlet he basically had his nanotech armor hack the glove, eject the stones and attach them to his suit and then he used specs in his data base to have his armor adapt on the fly into a makeshift Gauntlet configuration which could channel the stones' power well enough to do what he did.

As for the time travel it should be noted he didn't come up with that whole cloth. He didn't invent Pym particles or discover the potential time warping aspect of the Quantum realm. He was presented with the issue of how you could navigate through the Quantum realm to make a safe trip through it to another time and back, thus the "Time GPS" and platform/Quantum Tunnel that it worked in conjunction with. The method to access the Quantum realm was not created by him so that is half the battle right there. At least that's how I view it.

In regards to the Gauntlet, the original was forged by an Elf on a dying star with what I assumed included mystical properties. Tony creating one in a lab using nano-tech just seemed off-putting for me and a departure from what we saw in the previous movie.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

In regards to the Gauntlet, the original was forged by an Elf on a dying star with what I assumed included mystical properties. Tony creating one in a lab using nano-tech just seemed off-putting for me and a departure from what we saw in the previous movie.

"Where I come from, magic and science are one and the same."

The Gauntlet forged by a giant dwarve from the same "world" as the "god" that said that, mind you.

And the forger of the gauntlet did so for an alien flying around in space ships who had a cyborg adopted daughter.

If anything this is totally consistent with their presentation of these sort of things in the MCU. The actual outlier is Dr. Strange, so far the only franchise making a case for pure magic with no technobabble justifications. Look at the stones history without any bias and from the cube/space stone, the scepter/ mind stone, the power stone, the Aether/ reality stone... Those all where in some way subject to use by or affected through MCU high tech super science.

Myself, I actually am not down with the "science and magic are one and the same" jazz conceit. But the precedents are all clearly there in the MCU films with the stones as macguffins.

 

[samsnee]

Every time I watch that end battle sequence I keep wishing they utilized a lot more group teamwork shots to better showcase the abilities in a fight like that instead of letting some characters simply drift off into the CGI background.

Agreed. No one would have complained if we had gotten another ten minutes of team-ups since who knows how long it will be before we get this kind of movie again and definitely not with the original Avengers.

I read they had written a scene with everyone strategizing but cut it bc of the flow.

 

[Dark Raven]

Agreed. No one would have complained if we had gotten another ten minutes of team-ups since who knows how long it will be before we get this kind of movie again and definitely not with the original Avengers.

I read they had written a scene with everyone strategizing but cut it bc of the flow.

That's all I wanted. It didn't have all the displays of everyone's characters showing off their powers and abilities like the airport battle in Civil War. It could've done with something like that where it was much clearer.

 

[DawnWarrior]

I would have liked one SHIELD Helicarrier as part of the Armada along with the Wakandans, Wizards, and Ravagers, to represent Earth's conventional firepower, and to get Fury and Hill in there for the finale.

 

[SPO2 Dalisay]

I would have liked one SHIELD Helicarrier as part of the Armada along with the Wakandans, Wizards, and Ravagers, to represent Earth's conventional firepower, and to get Fury and Hill in there for the finale.

Unlike the Wakandan Army which was already mobilizing Fury and Hill were driving down a street when snaptured. While they were able to mount up for Sokovia with no S.H.I.E.L.D how would they get in the fight?

In Avengers the National Guard and NYPD joined the fight as we wondered where the USAF was. And again at the Avengers HQ you have to wonder where they were. In Iron Man films they did make an appearance

 

[Marvel united]

I think I may have preferred they went back to 2018 as opposed to snapping everybody back. Would have been closer to the ending of Infinity Gauntlet (from the comics) and it would have had darker implication seeing as events of IW would have been virtually irreversible. The ending was a little too easy for me.

And in addition to that, I also wish they didnt kill 2018 Thanos.