Sons of Anarchy - Part 2

[runawayboulder]

Eh, Jax will only be a suspect until the forensic team tests Jax's gun and sees that it isn't a match for the bullets in Roosevelt. Not to mention the missing murder weapon used on Tara, and the amount of time Jax had to supposedly commit those acts between the time he got to the house and the cops showed up.

I AM curious about Juice's angle here...I think it's safe to assume he believes he's doing the right thing, and in turn will get back to Jax's good graces...but that's a pretty big leap - saving Gemma's ass could look good in Jax's eyes, but that totally depends on how he wants to handle Gemma's actions. The other side of that coin is Jax seeing Juice's actions as an even further betrayal.

I'm surprised he didn't keep the fork as leverage. It looked like he considered it for a second.

 

[Liam_H]

I don't think Juice is trying to get back into Jax's good graces at all. He's doing it solely for Gemma who he feels more loyal to now. I mean Jax did basically give him the kiss of death near the end.

 

[Spider-Who?]

I doubt that the DA would buy his club covering, but the bullitstics could free him... maybe.

Ballistics would definitely clear him of one murder; not only would the bullets not match his gun (its not just the ammo type they check), but also gun residue on Jax - if any exists - wouldn't match whats on the bullets either.

 

[Spider-Who?]

I don't think Juice is trying to get back into Jax's good graces at all. He's doing it solely for Gemma who he feels more loyal to now. I mean Jax did basically give him the kiss of death near the end.

You're probably correct - it seemed like he was going full on instinct mode at the time, and Gemma is definitely his only "friend" right now. But in terms of how he plays things next season, that is what I'm curious about.

 

[georgec]

Juice did what he did because Gemma had been showing him compassion this season, and he knew there was no going back to Jax and the club.

Juice definitely doesn't think that helping Gemma get away with murdering Tara will make Jax say, "Okay, I forgive you for screwing up so much."

 

[The Demon's Head]

How would you rank the finales?

Here's my ranking-

Season 6
Season 3
Season 5
Season 2
Season 4
Season 1

 

[Tron Bonne]

4
5
6
2
1
























3

EDIT: Oh you just meant finales. I was ranking seasons as a whole.

 

[Sawyer]

I feel like the worst thing Jax could do to Gemma would be like, arranging for the kids to be taken away where Gemma could never find them, and then confronting her about everything before killing himself in front of her.

That seems fairly melodramatic and Shakespearean.

 

[runawayboulder]

Ranking the season finales I'd go
5
6
4
3
2
1

For seasons I'd probably go
5
4
6
2
1
3

As low as I put S2, I actually really enjoyed that season. The club came so unglued and pulled back together basically rallying around Gemma's rape. S3 is by far the weakest although it had one hell of a season finale.

Somewhere along the line Sutter started producing work on an insane level. It was in Season 4 and if I had to pinpoint it, I'd say the minute Clay murdered Piney. For the first 3 seasons the show was good. After that specific point I mentioned, this show and Sutter started operating on The Sopranos level of quality. The stories, shocking moments, acting....everything. Yeah, it's been that good.

 

[Charlie Boy]

Jax has too much of an ego to ever kill himself.

 

[Donnie Darko]

My wife and I have talked about this a few times. Eli Roosevelt, even though he served as an antagonist to the club, was never a BAD GUY. If anything, he was the good guy on the show. He was a cop who legitimately wanted to do the right thing and never showed that he was on anyone's payroll. Unlike Stahl, he wasn't a slimy manipulator with little regard for collateral damage. He was just a guy who stood up to the Sons. While I rooted against him in his efforts to squash the club, I was never like "this guy needs to die!"

 

[RockSP]

I doubt that the DA would buy his club covering, but the bullitstics could free him... maybe.

The teenage window breaker chick was there too.

 

[Mister J]

Crazy stuff. I saw Gemma offing Tara coming (after she sent Unser off following his little tidbit of information)... but not as brutally as it went down. Jeebus. For a second, I thought Juice was going to take the fall as some final pledge of allegiance to the club, but yeah, not so much. I don't expect Jax to hang in the balance for it, at least not after the initial forensic investigation, though Patterson had a fairly evil look on her face after she processed what happened.

Still stunned by the Roosevelt happening. I figured him to be the largely ensuring order in Charming at the end of all this. God, that sucked. Good character. particularly in the midst of all the wackjobs running around.

It's going to be entirely too long until S7.

 

[Maximus One]

OMFG! Somebody hold me!!!!

 

[georgec]

OMFG! Somebody hold me!!!!

*hug*

 

[Sawyer]

OMFG! Somebody hold me!!!!

 

[Marvolo]

Still hurts thinking about it. It was just so damn brutal!

 

[Sawyer]

 

[Marvolo]

Damnit, Sawyer! Why!?!

 

[Dr Lee]

I tell you now... Juice will be the only one left alive by the end of next season...

 

[Sawyer]

I tell you now... Juice will be the only one left alive by the end of next season...

Now I'm gonna laugh if he's dead before the opening credits of the premiere.

 

[georgec]

I tell you now... Juice will be the only one left alive by the end of next season...

I hope Juice suffers a horrible death. He just helped Gemma cover up her murder of Tara.

 

[Maximus One]

The episode is playing right now on my tv. Unser was sooooo ****ing stupid here. I just can't believe it. I had trouble accepting the death from a few weeks ago but this??!! Omg. Entirely ****ing heartbreaking. Also, wtf ever happened with August and Tig? That thread is still kinda just dangling. I dunno. I never expected the show to go this route. Not at all. But god damn if it isn't something magnificent still. Soooo Shakesperean

 

[Maximus One]

Also, does it remind anybody else of Lem's death on The Shield? It's like that one defining moment in the third act of the series that defines it for the rest of the series.

 

[Mister J]

I figured Marks just wanted to use the Tig card to leverage Jax later on. I don't know if he really cared about further 'avenging' Pope's daughter, as that seemed more like something that Damon was on. When he got Jax to set Tig up, I took it to be confirmation of the holding of a trump card. When he got the Irish business, he was more that content and Tiggy's free to go about his usual zany and deviant business.

To the other point, I'm really not shaken by Tara's death. Outside of the somewhat shock of how it happened, I just don't care that much. When Lem went down, that **** hurt. I see your point as it serving as as a fulcrum for the remainder of the series though. The fallout is going to be hellacious and that's before the truth even comes out.