©KAW;20909547 said:
Good boy, I wanted you to say that it was cheesy, you're not that hard to potty train after all. It didn't go on for too long, it shouldn't have been in the film at all. A smart director would have known this.
You wanted me to say it, yet, I still enjoyed it. It's cheesy, and maybe it whent on a little too long, but it was enjoyable. Potty train? oh man, you truly are crazy. Stop being self absorbed, ever consider that? Guess what? I still thought SPider-Man 3 was good regardless of the dance scene.
I'm not comparing it to Batman & Robin, just pointing out that a director who doesn't know how to control his cheese (knowing when seriousness/humor begins and ends within the context of the film) is the main reason we have so many mediocre comic book films today. Reviews and movie critics, really? I guess we are a society that doesn't think ourselves. I choose to draw my own conclusions. I saw way too much of Raimi's attributes in these films. Creatively, it's what killed them for me.
Wait, stop right there. How do you know raimi used all of his techniques? He didn't and that's another reason I don't think you've seen his other films. for example, his camera techniques weren't liek in Eivl Dead and neither were the weird querky moments like in Evil Dead. You're blowing so many things out of proportion. Why? because you hate Sam Raimi. There was only a little comedy in his films over all, especially the first 2. And the comedy worked for most people! JJJ, Peter beign over confident in S-M2, etc. What part of that do you ont understand? There's a reason comic book films are what's IN now. And Spider-man is what pushed it foward whether you want to admit that or not.
Doesn't think to ourselves? Oh please, I'm just as against people using critics opinions for there own as the next person. However, The FACT is that the majority of people who have reviewd the first 2 films have called them fantastic. Majority = more than people who dislike them
JJJ shouldn't be joking when he's about to put Green Goblin in the newspaper for the first time, right after Green Goblin just finished murdering several people in cold blood. That's a serious moment, that shouldn't be met by childish antics and fart jokes. Which you and Sam Raimi just don't seem to comprehend.
Which all the more proves you don't know the JJJ character. In the early days, he'd want it on the fornt page immediately. He was a fast talker! Childish antics and fart jokes? Oh you have no idea how much you are in the minority with how you feel about Sam Raimi. You'd get eaten alive by the horror community if you bashed Raimi in front of them. Hell, I'm part of the community.
Yet, it's still goofy and cheesy for a so-called horror movie, cult following and all, my point still stands.
What point? It's a dark comedy horror film. Stephen King loved it. Wes Craven loved it. All the gods of horror loved it, so tell me again how Evil Dead is stupid?
Yet they didn't know better to NOT put a scene where Peter is dancing like a moron in heat.
It was meant to show what the symbiote has done to him. As far as I'm concerned, we were suppsoed to dislike him strutting because that's not who he is. Yes, it was a bit over the top but it did not ruin the movie. Why? Because I'm willing to embrace SOME change
No, I'd say Green Goblin as a character should have been handled better on screen. Very weak and hammy performance. As Spider-Man's #1 A List villain, he should have been written a hell of a lot better. Even the way he killed those Oscorp members came off corny as hell (From Men 2 Cartoon Bones) ahh...the drama. We deserve better quality for Spider-Man's villains and stories. Well, at least he didn't turn good like Doctor Octopus.
It's a comic book movie. Get used to it. Sure, Goblin murdered people differnetly in the comics, but then again, Raimi stated his Spider-Man is in a comic book/fantasy world. Also, how was the performance bad? Willem Dafoe is a very talented actor who chose the role for a damn good reason. What about blowing up that trolly thing or whatever? or blowing up the general and those test pilots?
Doc Ock had a sympathetic side but it was molded with his menacing attitude from the comic books, just so you know. THAT is how you make a comic book film your own. And that's why so many people praise molina's character as well. I think you're in denial.
But isn't that what the movie critics do (whom seem to like) because they praise these mediocre movies. So I guess their words are not fact that the movies are great. Since you care so much about the words they write, because it's to your liking. Yet, they have never picked up a camera to direct a film either. Why should I?
It's their opinion. They state it as there opinion. You, on the other hand, state yours as though it's fact. Simple as that.
Come on, kids saying cute things like "Okay Mr. Spider-Man" and talking about eating your "Green Vegetables," it's written for kids--open your eyes. And are you really that naive, you're talking about Marvel hired guns, what are they going to say about the movie, "yeah the movie sucked." Why would I care about what Marvel employees think about Marvel movies. Geez, I wonder if Warner Bros. employees liked the crap movie Green Lantern.
It fit the tone of the Spider-Man character himself. People look up to him, men women, and children. it's been expressed in the comics, my friend. The Boy Who Collected Spider-Man is a perfect example if you read comic books. Or, is that too cheesy for you as well?
John Romita jr. said he wasn't 100% pleased with Spider-Man 3, so there goes your point about them being forced to say something.
Again, you're not listening, the movie shouldn't be light as the comics where serious subject matters are concerned. Green Goblin killing people is serious, unless you don't think cold-blooded murderers are something a newspaper should take seriously.
But it should if you want to stay true to the comics, which is what so many people on here seem to b**** about. And from what I remember, they did take it seriously. So what, they didn't focus on the deaths for 45 minutes, but it was acknowledged in the paper Osborn read when talking in the mirror. It was acknowledged.
Okay, overall I don't like the world Sam created for Spider-Man. It's simplistic, juvenile, inconsistent, corny, cheesy, watered down and overly happy-go-lucky where it need not be.
Then I guess overall, you don't like certain aspects of the original Spider-Man that Stan Lee created. Yes, there were changes in the movies, but the were more similarities than people want to acknowledge. There's a reason people praised Raimi from 2002-2007. I was here, I saw it.
Like I said, nobody is saying you have to like it. I think TDk is overrated, but I know I'm in the minority.
Wait a minute, you just said I'm not a film maker, so I'm afraid I cannot share my thoughts on how to make a Spider-Man film
Your digging yourself a hole even deeper.
I really don't feel like argueing anymore. You can have your
opinion , and rant all you want. Just don't expect everybody to agree with what you're saying.
