You wanted me to say it, yet, I still enjoyed it. It's cheesy, and maybe it whent on a little too long, but it was enjoyable. Potty train? oh man, you truly are crazy. Stop being self absorbed, ever consider that? Guess what? I still thought SPider-Man 3 was good regardless of the dance scene.
I'm sure you did thought SM3 was awesome, I'm sure you did.
Wait, stop right there. How do you know raimi used all of his techniques? He didn't and that's another reason I don't think you've seen his other films. for example, his camera techniques weren't liek in Eivl Dead and neither were the weird querky moments like in Evil Dead. You're blowing so many things out of proportion. Why? because you hate Sam Raimi. There was only a little comedy in his films over all, especially the first 2. And the comedy worked for most people! JJJ, Peter beign over confident in S-M2, etc. What part of that do you ont understand? There's a reason comic book films are what's IN now. And Spider-man is what pushed it foward whether you want to admit that or not.
Who cares about his so called techniques with the camera. I'm talking about his ability to make most of his films juvenile and goofy with a flair for cheese. Comedy doesn't belong in scenes where JJJ is talking about a villain (Green Goblin) who just murdered several people in cold blood.
Doesn't think to ourselves? Oh please, I'm just as against people using critics opinions for there own as the next person. However, The FACT is that the majority of people who have reviewd the first 2 films have called them fantastic. Majority = more than people who dislike them
Really, if your against it, why keep using critics to try and prove your point. Can't you think for yourself? Roger Ebert gave the Garfield movie the thumbs up, am I suppose to love that crap too because he does?
Which all the more proves you don't know the JJJ character. In the early days, he'd want it on the fornt page immediately. He was a fast talker! Childish antics and fart jokes? Oh you have no idea how much you are in the minority with how you feel about Sam Raimi. You'd get eaten alive by the horror community if you bashed Raimi in front of them. Hell, I'm part of the community.
You keep saying I'm in the minority like that's a slam against me, I don't mind being in the minority, when the majority is defending poorly made films. Transformers is about to hit a billion dollars worldwide, it's still a crap movie to me.
What point? It's a dark comedy horror film. Stephen King loved it. Wes Craven loved it. All the gods of horror loved it, so tell me again how Evil Dead is stupid?
It's still a juvenile, cheesy and goofy movie, regardless of what Craven and King says. You just don't like thinking for yourself, do you? You should try it, it's liberating.
It was meant to show what the symbiote has done to him. As far as I'm concerned, we were suppsoed to dislike him strutting because that's not who he is. Yes, it was a bit over the top but it did not ruin the movie. Why? Because I'm willing to embrace SOME change
You're right, it was over-the-top...and unnecessary. With the direction of SM3, all people were talking about was Peter strutting his stuff and that dreadful dance scene. The execution of the symbiote story can off horribly. The 90s cartoon handled it much better than a 258M dollar film did, that's pathetic.
It's a comic book movie. Get used to it. Sure, Goblin murdered people differnetly in the comics, but then again, Raimi stated his Spider-Man is in a comic book/fantasy world. Also, how was the performance bad? Willem Dafoe is a very talented actor who chose the role for a damn good reason. What about blowing up that trolly thing or whatever? or blowing up the general and those test pilots?
No, I will never get use to mediocre films based on comic books. Spider-Man should be better than what we were given. Willem DaFoe may be a talented actor, but when you have a horrible script and a mediocre director, you're bound to get a hammy performance, and we did.
Doc Ock had a sympathetic side but it was molded with his menacing attitude from the comic books, just so you know. THAT is how you make a comic book film your own. And that's why so many people praise molina's character as well. I think you're in denial.
Right, with him in horror over the killings of what his evil tentacles have done (not himself), that's a menacing attitude. Then he kills himself saving the city Mr. "I Will Not Die A Monster" instead of fighting Spider-Man from trying to destroy his life work. In case you didn't know, it's Dr. Connors who's the sympathetic doctor. I don't blame Molina, I blame the script and director.
It's their opinion. They state it as there opinion. You, on the other hand, state yours as though it's fact. Simple as that.
Why does that bother you so? I happen to think that it's a fact that the Spider-Man films are mediocre.
It fit the tone of the Spider-Man character himself. People look up to him, men women, and children. it's been expressed in the comics, my friend. The Boy Who Collected Spider-Man is a perfect example if you read comic books. Or, is that too cheesy for you as well?
Catering to only children when your movie is PG-13 is asinine. You might as well make it a G-rated film. You can have kids look up to Spider-Man without the overly cringe worthy and cutesy dialogue/scenes.
John Romita jr. said he wasn't 100% pleased with Spider-Man 3, so there goes your point about them being forced to say something.
Wow, not 100% pleased, was he 99% pleased with it? Call me when he has the balls to calls it the piece crap that it is.
But it should if you want to stay true to the comics, which is what so many people on here seem to b**** about. And from what I remember, they did take it seriously. So what, they didn't focus on the deaths for 45 minutes, but it was acknowledged in the paper Osborn read when talking in the mirror. It was acknowledged.
Are you serious, murder should be taken in a light-hearted way in a Spider-Man film because of the comics. Well hell, why not just have Peter Parker laughing, pointing and giggling when Uncle Ben is murdered.
No, they didn't take it seriously, not when they were trying to come up with a name for the Green Goblin after he killed innocent people. The green guy on the glider just murdered multiple people and JJJ and Hoffman are talking about 'Green Meanie' in a humorous way. There's no sense of danger or threat when Spidey's A-List villains are introduce through The Daily Bugle. They're just jokes.
Then I guess overall, you don't like certain aspects of the original Spider-Man that Stan Lee created. Yes, there were changes in the movies, but the were more similarities than people want to acknowledge. There's a reason people praised Raimi from 2002-2007. I was here, I saw it.
I love the comics, but I don't expect to see aspects of the overly cheesy elements from the 60s comic books, to be dominate in a movie made in 2002 and beyond. It's common sense, it's why people prefer The Dark Knight over Batman & Robin and Batman Forever. A smart director knows where to draw the line.
Like I said, nobody is saying you have to like it. I think TDk is overrated, but I know I'm in the minority.
Your digging yourself a hole even deeper.
I really don't feel like argueing anymore. You can have your opinion , and rant all you want. Just don't expect everybody to agree with what you're saying.
Okay, I'll keep digging until I hit cheese, I might find you and Sam down there. I guess we can part ways on this note. It's been a blast.
