The Amazing Spider-Man Spider-Man Reboot Costume Part 4 - "What's that in his eye??" edition

[Spider-ManHero12]

Its someones opinion...it cant be debated. It would be like me trying to debate why you think its an awesome suit. Opinions are neither right or wrong. You may not agree with why I dislike the suit but then thats just your opinion on my opinion

Well said. Like I said though, I like the suit, but IMO, there's truly no reason why a design closer to the comics wouldn't work. I can't think of one single reason.

 

[Spiderman6592]

red stripes going down the legs, not enough webbing, motorcycle gloves, which look odd. I like the suit, but that's about it. I don't really think it's amazing, but it's not bad either. It needs to be used so that people don't pay attention to the parts that look odd or it won't work. If it ifts in the movie, then that's good. We'll see in the trailer.

Well you did say closer not the exact thing. A finished belt and lack of silver shoes would qualify as closer to me. Also, I think ETGuy is right. They had to shoot the entire film in 3D. Red and Blue are THE hardest colors to separate which might explain the drastic difference in the amount of red on the suit in comparison to most designs. That might also explain why the trailer wasn't ready in time for Transformers.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Well you did say closer not the exact thing. A finished belt and lack of silver shoes would qualify as closer to me. Also, I think ETGuy is right. They had to shoot the entire film in 3D. Red and Blue are THE hardest colors to separate which might explain the drastic difference in the amount of red on the suit in comparison to most designs. That might also explain why the trailer wasn't ready in time for Transformers.

Well, by closer, I meant as exact as Raimi's was but since this is a different series, they could have used the texture they are using and change the spider slightly like they are and things like that. The overall design would be like the comics and similar to Raimi's, but definitely different because of the texture.

 

[Immortalfire]

The most obvious complaint is lack of a belt on the front..that red "column" is there, and then just stops. Weird look.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

That's one of my complaints as well. I still like it, but a design like the comics would have worked and it would have looked different than Raimi's (Raimi's is my faovrite) because of the texture. Oh well, I guess.

 

[roach]

Well you did say closer not the exact thing. A finished belt and lack of silver shoes would qualify as closer to me. Also, I think ETGuy is right. They had to shoot the entire film in 3D. Red and Blue are THE hardest colors to separate which might explain the drastic difference in the amount of red on the suit in comparison to most designs. That might also explain why the trailer wasn't ready in time for Transformers.

Unless you or ETGuy are 3D movie techs or can point to someone mentioning this....i believe this is what we call in the debate circle...grasping at straws.

 

[ETGuy]

If you want the object to stand out from the background then you don't want the colours of the object to contrast too much, because the goal isn't to make just the red portions of the suit pop out or just the blue portions to pop out but to make the whole suit stand out from the background.

 

[Spiderman6592]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anaglyph_image

The 3D effect is made by separating reds and blues in an image and making sure they go into the left and right eyes respectively. When you have a costume made of red and blue colors, that effect is, by nature, extremely difficult to produce when the colors are already clearly separated on an object.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

I'm starting to get confused. They had to change the design for 3D? I thought it only had to do with the txture?

 

[hopefuldreamer]

Seems like i'm in the minority, but I love the new suit

I like the textures, the colours and the webbing on it. I never particularly liked the raised silver webbing on the old suit, and I dunno... when I put them next to each other, the new one just looks cooler to me. Just my opinion tho.

 

[Spiderman6592]

I'm starting to get confused. They had to change the design for 3D? I thought it only had to do with the txture?

They said they were making the film in 3D to begin with, I wouldn't be surprised if they had to make some alterations to make it easier to film. I'm not saying the entire design is influenced by 3D filming, but I wouldn't be surprised if they had to change a few things in order to make it easier.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

They said they were making the film in 3D to begin with, I wouldn't be surprised if they had to make some alterations to make it easier to film. I'm not saying the entire design is influenced by 3D filming, but I wouldn't be surprised if they had to change a few things in order to make it easier.

I really think that would be/is a stupid reason, no offense to you.

 

[roach]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anaglyph_image

The 3D effect is made by separating reds and blues in an image and making sure they go into the left and right eyes respectively. When you have a costume made of red and blue colors, that effect is, by nature, extremely difficult to produce when the colors are already clearly separated on an object.

yes what you are describing is the old way of 3D...where you got a pair of glasses with a red lens and a blue/green lens

current 3D technology uses whats called Polarization:

To present a stereoscopic motion picture, two images are projected superimposed onto the same screen through different polarizing filters. The viewer wears low-cost eyeglasses which also contain a pair of polarizing filters oriented differently (clockwise/counterclockwise with circular polarization or at 90 degree angles, usually 45 and 135 degrees, with linear polarization). As each filter passes only that light which is similarly polarized and blocks the light polarized differently, each eye sees a different image. This is used to produce a three-dimensional effect by projecting the same scene into both eyes, but depicted from slightly different perspectives. Since no head tracking is involved, the entire audience can view the stereoscopic images at the same time.


Resembling sunglasses, RealD circular polarized glasses are now the standard for theatrical releases and theme park attractions.
In the case of RealD a circularly polarizing liquid crystal filter which can switch polarity 144 times per second is placed in front of the projector lens. Only one projector is needed, as the left and right eye images are displayed alternately. Sony features a new system called RealD XLS, which shows both circular polarized images simultaneously: a single 4K projector (4096×2160 resolution) displays both 2K images (2048×858 resolution) on top of each other at the same time, a special lens attachment polarizes and projects the images.

 

[Spiderman6592]

How is it a stupid reason? The 3D effect is science. It's not something that can be bargained with. It's probably very likely that the costume was changed to fir the 3D mold. It also explains why the red and blue, when the costume is viewed from the front and back almost blend into each other. I wouldn't be surprised if that's why the belt was left off the suit.


But would you mind telling me why you think it's stupid instead of just saying that it is?


And Roach, "As each filter passes only that light which is similarly polarized and blocks the light polarized differently, each eye sees a different image."

That's exactly what I just said.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

But do you know this for sure? Because if your just thinking that it is, then I can say it's a stupid reason. However, if you are in fact right, then you are correct, I can't change that.

From what I remember hearing, it was had more to do with the brightness/texture of the suit and not the design.

 

[Spiderman6592]

The suit colors are darkened in post production to make the suit look normal. The brighter colors were also used to make it easier on the 3D technology.

I'm not going to say I'm right, because I'm not sure that I am but it's a very likely and probable explanation for the contrast in the amount of red and blue on the suit.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Then it's all speculation at this point.

 

[Spiderman6592]

Absolutely, I never said it wasn't but it is probable.

 

[roach]

again there is no evidence of red and blue not being able to be used in 3D or having some negative effect. No mention of it during the filming of TF3...with Optimus Prime being red and blue....or during Captain America....or Avengers....or Man of Steel

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Like I said, I still don't think the design had to do with the 3D. I think the the brightness did, but not the design. Now, whether I'm right or wrong is another story.

 

[Spiderman6592]

Optimus Prime and Captain America both have silvers and whites throughout their costumes that distance the red and blue. On Spidey's costume, the red and blue are fused with nothing in between.

Man of Steel hasn't even revealed the costume yet and even his is different from Spidey's. He has a red cape and blue costume with a red and yellow logo. Spidey's costume is red and blue everywhere from top to bottom.

 

[roach]

Honestly Im not going to debate this with you any longer because you are just pulling **** out of your @$$....you have no idea why they changed the costume

 

[Spiderman6592]

I'm not pulling **** out of my ass though. That's how it works. I already stated that I don't know for sure if that's why they changed the costume, I simply said it was a possibility and you're getting angry because there's no real way to refute a possibility.

 

[roach]

its also a possibility that Webb hates the suit and that why he changed it...

im not gonna offer proof because its a possibility but im gonna stick to it as if it is proven.

I have researched 3D as I am about to shoot a film in this format and nothing i have found leads me to believe that there are issues with red and blue being on screen....especially since my color palatte will be red and blue

 

[Spiderman6592]

Facepalm.