The Amazing Spider-Man Spider-Man Reboot Costume Part 4 - "What's that in his eye??" - Part 5

[Spider-Who?]

Agreed.



I remember that too. Something about a "punk rock instinct".

Yeah, I seem to recall him using that term, as well. I think people might be putting too much stock in that, imaging this is gonna be all Sid and Nancy with it.

What I take away from it is that instead of crying himself to sleep at night, or trying to hard to make friends, this Peter will have a slightly more cynical “I don’t need em, I’ll sit here and read my chem books. Let em make fun of me” attitude, where he’ll embrace (but not accept or like) his social outcast nature instead of trying to be something he’s not.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Yeah, I seem to recall him using that term, as well. I think people might be putting too much stock in that, imaging this is gonna be all Sid and Nancy with it.

What I take away from it is that instead of crying himself to sleep at night, or trying to hard to make friends, this Peter will have a slightly more cynical “I don’t need em, I’ll sit here and read my chem books. Let em make fun of me” attitude, where he’ll embrace (but not accept or like) his social outcast nature instead of trying to be something he’s not.

And if that works, then that's good. As long as I feel like this is the peter Parker I've known and been a fan of for years, I'm happy.

 

[Spiderman6592]

I lol'd and I'm with Spider-Who? entirely. (again!?)


Peter doesn't always need to be that "Gee whiz!" kid. Just read USM. Peter wasn't rebellious, but he had what I'd call a cynical, punk rock instinct about him.

 

[Godzilla2014]

Yeah, I seem to recall him using that term, as well. I think people might be putting too much stock in that, imaging this is gonna be all Sid and Nancy with it.

What I take away from it is that instead of crying himself to sleep at night, or trying to hard to make friends, this Peter will have a slightly more cynical “I don’t need em, I’ll sit here and read my chem books. Let em make fun of me” attitude, where he’ll embrace (but not accept or like) his social outcast nature instead of trying to be something he’s not.

That might work.

And if that works, then that's great for the film. As long as I feel like this is the peter Parker I've known and been a fan of for years, I'm happy.

Agreed.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

I lol'd and I'm with Spider-Who? entirely. (again!?)


Peter doesn't always need to be that "Gee whiz!" kid. Just read USM. Peter wasn't rebellious, but he had what I'd call a cynical, punk rock instinct about him.

Well, it's been a good 5 years since I've read USM, but I never related a whole lot to that version of Peter Parker. 616? Absoloutely, but I could never relate to the USM version.

 

[Godzilla2014]

I lol'd and I'm with Spider-Who? entirely. (again!?)


Peter doesn't always need to be that "Gee whiz!" kid. Just read USM. Peter wasn't rebellious, but he had what I'd call a cynical, punk rock instinct about him.

Cynical, maybe, but hardly a "punk rock instinct".

 

[Spiderman6592]

Going to back to Spider-Who?'s point. I think what Webb meant by punk rock instinct, is that he's cynical and doesn't care what other people think, but in reality he's actually little pissed about being a nerd/social outcast and that's the exact feeling I got from USM Peter?

 

[Troy_Parker]

Yeah, I seem to recall him using that term, as well. I think people might be putting too much stock in that, imaging this is gonna be all Sid and Nancy with it.

What I take away from it is that instead of crying himself to sleep at night, or trying to hard to make friends, this Peter will have a slightly more cynical “I don’t need em, I’ll sit here and read my chem books. Let em make fun of me” attitude, where he’ll embrace (but not accept or like) his social outcast nature instead of trying to be something he’s not.

This. My God, this. People are reading into "punk rock instinct" way too much.

Well, it's been a good 5 years since I've read USM, but I never related a whole lot to that version of Peter Parker. 616? Absoloutely, but I could never relate to the USM version.

I can tell you now, you're not going to relate to Andrew Garfield's Peter Parker. If you didn't relate/like the USM version, there's a very high chance the same thing's going to happen with Andrew's version.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

I can tell you now, you're not going to relate to Andrew Garfield's Peter Parker. If you didn't relate/like the USM version, there's a very high chance the same thing's going to happen with Andrew's version.

Well, I just couldn't relate to him. However, As long as the essence of Peter parker is there and what I love about the character is strong, then I'll be happy.

 

[Spiderman6592]

How did you not relate to USM's Peter Parker SMH12...? How old are you? It's a serious question. If you weren't a teenager when reading USM you might not have been able to relate as well. USM Peter is one of the most excellently written comic book characters in CB history, IMO.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

How did you not relate to USM's Peter Parker SMH12...? How old are you? It's a serious question. If you weren't a teenager when reading USM you might not have been able to relate as well. USM Peter is one of the most excellently written comic book characters in CB history, IMO.

I'd rather not reveal my age, but I got into Spider-Man when TAS was still running in the 90's and I started reading Spider-Man comics around that time. Maybe it's the idea that USM Peter felt different than what I was used to before it was released? I don't know, that version of Peter just never grabbed me completely. Everybody's different, I guess.

 

[Spider-Who?]

Another thing to consider with this "punk rock" issue:

Punk Rock is a very "do it yourself" culture that came out of kids in lower class upbringings hating the conformity and petty emphasis on what is "popular". For them, it was about expressing yourself regardless of your means or talent, and not being bogged down by the trappings of middle/upper class sensibilities. There is nothing inherently wrong with this. In fact, it's quite noble. Sound a little like someone we know?

The problem here is (i feel) that people hear the words "punk rock" and automatically assume all punk rock is about is mohawks, drinking, doing drugs, bashing in windows and giving the finger to "the man". And that's a pretty small view of the culture.

 

[VenomSpawn]

As a 15 year old boy, I'd say I relate a whole ****load more to Ultimate Peter than ASM Peter.

 

[Spider-Who?]

As a 15 year old boy, I'd say I relate a whole ****load more to Ultimate Peter than ASM Peter.

One of the reasons I hate what they did to ASM. Let the olders enjoy Peter as an adult. Let the younger readers enjoy Peter as a kid.

 

[Godzilla2014]

I'd rather not reveal my age, but I got into Spider-Man when TAS was still running in the 90's and I started reading Spider-Man comics around that time. Maybe it's the idea that USM Peter felt different than what I was used to before it was released? I don't know, that version of Peter just never grabbed me completely. Everybody's different, I guess.

Possibly.

Another thing to consider with this "punk rock" issue:

Punk Rock is a very "do it yourself" culture that came out of kids in lower class upbringings hating the conformity and petty emphasis on what is "popular". For them, it was about expressing yourself regardless of your means or talent, and not being bogged down by the trappings of middle/upper class sensibilities. There is nothing inherently wrong with this. In fact, it's quite noble. Sound a little like someone we know?

The problem here is (i feel) that people hear the words "punk rock" and automatically assume all punk rock is about is mohawks, drinking, doing drugs, bashing in windows and giving the finger to "the man". And that's a pretty small view of the culture.

Good point.

One of the reasons I hate what they did to ASM. Let the olders enjoy Peter as an adult. Let the younger readers enjoy Peter as a kid.

Agreed. One of the coolest things about Spider-Man, in terms of long-term prospects, is that the central theme of maturity and responsibility lends itself to continuous character growth and evolution.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Agreed. One of the coolest things about Spider-Man, in terms of long-term prospects, is that the central theme of maturity and responsibility lends itself to continuous character growth and evolution.

WHile I do love where the 616 unvierse is at in terms of ASM, I also do miss the mature Peter from the JMS era. and I mean from before Sins Past. PEter growing up through the years was such a fantastic thing to read about and I felt like i matured with him. Still, I love where the book is at today. A part of me does miss that more matured Peter Parker though. He was so amazing.

 

[Spider-Who?]

I haven't read ASM since OMD. (well, I read one or two, but they were written so atrociously I couldn't stand to read another issue).

 

[Curmudgeon]

But he's not anarchistic. He delivers criminals to the justice system. An anarchist doesn't believe in government's power to punish criminals.



I just don't like the idea of Peter Parker as "the troubled kid who sits in the back of the class with his hood on".

Being a vigilante is an act of anarchy. Why else would the police be after him? I don't think this Peter thinks of himself as a rebel, which is why he does deliver criminals to the authorities, but he still takes the law into his own hands somewhat.

He is kind of a troubled kid though. I think it's okay for him to be troubled pre-spider bite.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

@Spider-Who?

You're missing out, tbh, lol. I really do msis the more matured Peter though. That's the one i related to the most, though, as I said, I'm also happy where the boooks are at now. Dan SLott has written some of the ebst Spidey stories we've seen in the past few years.

 

[Godzilla2014]

WHile I do love where the 616 unvierse is at in terms of ASM, I also do miss the mature Peter from the JMS era. and I mean from before Sins Past. PEter growing up through the years was such a fantastic thing to read about and I felt like i matured with him. Still, I love where the book is at today. A part of me does miss that more matured Peter Parker though. He was so amazing.

Agreed about the JMS Spider-Man. I personally loved Peter being married, as it meant he was overcoming the obstacles in his life as he matured. He learned and he grew, like a real person. That heightened his relatability as an everyman character.

I was sad to see that go in Brand New Day.

Being a vigilante is an act of anarchy. Why else would the police be after him? I don't think this Peter thinks of himself as a rebel, which is why he does deliver criminals to the authorities, but he still takes the law into his own hands somewhat.

He is kind of a troubled kid though. I think it's okay for him to be troubled pre-spider bite.

I don't really think of Peter Parker as very troubled pre-spider bite.

 

[Troy_Parker]

How do we know he's troubled pre-spider bite?

 

[Godzilla2014]

How do we know he's troubled pre-spider bite?

Because he writes about it in his diary.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Because he writes about it in his diary.

Lol

 

[Curmudgeon]

I don't really think of Peter Parker as very troubled pre-spider bite.

You don't think being an orphan, outsider, and bullied would compound to make him troubled?

 

[Troy_Parker]

Because he writes about it in his diary.

Oh well, better than crying about it all the time.

...

Wait.