Star Trek Beyond - Part 2

[Octoberist]

To be fair, JD and Patrick were under order of Orci with..whatever they had to write for him.

 

[Octoberist]

Also, Hemsworth is confirmed being back!

http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/ne...rek-4-with-chris-hemsworth-returning#/slide/1

 

[The Chris]

Wow that is just crazy! And Nice to see this cast get as many movies as The Next Generation crew. This is a different beast than that group in that time so I was starting to wonder about that.

 

[Octoberist]

In the original timeline, who takes over the Enterpreise when Kirk and his crew moved on. I guess in-between the show/cartoon and the movies?

 

[Lencho01]

For those who've seen it, is the film a complete story?

I only ask since I find it weird that Paramount let out that Hemsworth will be back this early.

 

[Tony Stark]

So far the reviews are looking promising. I really hope this one knocks it out of the park at the box office.

 

[Kyle]

Do you guys think a shape shifter may have taken on Kirk Sr's form or they travel back in time?

For those who've seen it, is the film a complete story?

I only ask since I find it weird that Paramount let out that Hemsworth will be back this early.

Although I haven't seen it, sounds like a complete story. It's a Kirk driven story, thus a very Kirk driven announcement. They probably came up with the story for the next one while working on this one.

 

[The Chris]

In the original timeline, who takes over the Enterpreise when Kirk and his crew moved on. I guess in-between the show/cartoon and the movies?

After googling it because my memory is fuzzy, it looks like it was the crew led by Captain Harriman that we see in the opening scene of Star Trek Generations, The mission where Kirk is trapped in the Nexus.

 

[marvelrobbins]

they brought on the co-writers of failed script to write the next one? You would think Pegg and his co-writer would be hired.

bringing back hemsworth screams they hope to think advantage of popularty of MCU ignoring fact hemsworth is worth nothing to GA when he's not playing thor.

this pretty much says a time travel story for next film is in the works.it
appears all the surviving principals are already signed for next film.

 

[Kyle]

Hemsworth doesn't reek of latching onto MARVEL at all to me, Kirk Sr is an extremely important person in Kirk's life that's been guiding although as a motivating ghost the whole journey Kirk has been on throughout all of these films. If it was a new character, okay. But it's a significant character who has largely motivated Kirk throughout just back in physical form.

 

[Doctor Jones]

Hemsworth being back just doesn't excite me. Comes off as more gimmicky like they need someone with Marvel recognition to help their franchise. If this is true, it's stupid reasoning because Thor is the least popular Avenger and Hemsworth can't open a movie. So... how does this help in any way? Also by father and son meeting, doesn't this mean there will be time travel?

Again?

Paramount, ease the **** up. Wait for the opening weekend. When this happens sometimes, a sequel doesn't happen. Paramount just really needs a franchise despite their stupid Transformers universe idea.

 

[Sithborg]

Or they are thinking they want to have some fun with time travel. I think it would be interesting to see Pine's and Hemsworth's characters together.

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Trek movies tend to be good when time travel is involved so I am all for it .

 

[Silvermoon]

Or they are thinking they want to have some fun with time travel. I think it would be interesting to see Pine's and Hemsworth's characters together.

Ditto to this. I have no problem with Hemsworth being in the next one and am looking forward to see how him and Pine play off of each other.

 

[TheVileOne]

How the heck does that even happen? [Blackout]Did he get bit by an alien bug and mutate or some ****? [/Blackout]

This is confusing.

No. It's explained. I'm still disappointed Paramount did this.

 

[Rocketman]

Also, Hemsworth is confirmed being back!

http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/ne...rek-4-with-chris-hemsworth-returning#/slide/1

Huh. I'm very intrigued.

I have a feeling if Paramount locked Hemsworth down this early in the game, it's because they have a legitimately interesting story cooking up, and not because they want Hemsworth back for the hell of it because of his "name".

I expect time travel and parallel timelines and alternate realities.

 

[Doctor Jones]

Or they are thinking they want to have some fun with time travel. I think it would be interesting to see Pine's and Hemsworth's characters together.

But they've done time travel four times in the movies so far. This is Star Trek. A universe of infinite possibilities. Explorers. And time travelling makes this universe seem a lot smaller and less wondrous.

I don't know, they gotta let go the father/son thing. We get it guys. He feels like he's living in his father's shadow. That's a good character flaw, but I don't know, you'd think Kirk can grow and move past that.

Unless I'm ****ing blown away by what I see, I'm pretty much done with these movies now. I'm excited for this third film and will see it, but then they had to go and do this. This comes off less of a story and more of an "event" film that are all the rage now with blockbusters. It comes off as more of a publicity thing in the wake of this film to give it more attention. So pretty much, this new series of ST films will be about Kirk and his father? That's what that 09 reboot was promising so much of? I feel like the father's act in the first film has been blown way out of proportion to the extent of what it's become. It was a great thing in that movie and that's it. This third film? Okay, I get where the story is coming from. But in the fourth film to make it like this? Way to think small all around guys.

 

[Lencho01]

One more trailer...

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[TheVileOne]

The plot idea doesn't get me that excited, but we'll see. I mean George Kirk had like what, a few minutes of screentime?

 

[Doctor Jones]

But he was played by Chris Hemsworth! Pre-Thor! So that must make some more significance now!

 

[Marvolo]

Hopefully its just flashbacks or something like that and not time travel.

 

[TheVileOne]

It's just hard for me to see what the draw is here. I get that it's Chris Hemsworth/Thor, but I mean Hemsworth has proven to not be a draw outside of Marvel.

Now obviously the story can change my mind. Star Trek Beyond turned out a lot better than I expected. But I think Star Trek Beyond work because even though it's the original crew and the Enterprise, it felt like they were finally telling their own story.

It wasn't like George was this long tenured legendary captain and Kirk has to step out of his shadow. George was thrust into a terrible situation and did just about what any good officer of Starfleet should've done.

I mean outside of the human emotional factor, hasn't Kirk already surpassed his father? What is he so worried about now?

Now here's another theory I will put forth. Will the new movie effectively re-write the timeline and undo some of the first movie?

I mean that might sound crazy...but then look at X-Men: Days of Future Past.

 

[TheVileOne]

Hopefully its just flashbacks or something like that and not time travel.

It can't be flashbacks because it talks about Kirk and his father crossing paths.

 

[Doctor Jones]

Please no. It's not necessary. DOFP worked because it had so much continuity going on it got confusing. These movies have had a steady stream over the past seven years where people have a good idea of how it goes.

What it seems you're saying is that they could reboot some of the reboot. Which is horrible. But it's not something I'd put past Paramount. God... I'm already having horrible images of Kirk and his father travelling back to the events of the first movie. "And that's where things changed for me. My destiny. Forever. Now you must choose your own path."

 

[TheVileOne]

Please no. It's not necessary. DOFP worked because it had so much continuity going on it got confusing. These movies have had a steady stream over the past seven years where people have a good idea of how it goes.

What it seems you're saying is that they could reboot some of the reboot. Which is horrible. But it's not something I'd put past Paramount. God... I'm already having horrible images of Kirk and his father travelling back to the events of the first movie. "And that's where things changed for me. My destiny. Forever. Now you must choose yours."

Doctor Jones, I'm not saying they should do that at all. But I mean...maybe they think they have to change things back with this film? Or maybe Kirk will try and save his father?

Keep in mind, George Kirk was not supposed to die. Nero changed everything in that way.

I'm not saying I want to be right, I'm just completely spit-balling here. Here's another spitball

Maybe Kirk goes back in time and goes on an adventure with his dad and nothing changes at all. But he's enlightened that he finally got to meet his father who he always wanted to meet.