Star Trek Into Darkness - Part 3

[CapedCrusader14]

I have a better idea:

Have him smash through the Enterprise hull or Starfleet Academy.

I think we just figured out the ending.

 

[The Squirrel]

Do you guys and girls think the new Pike should walk again?

It doesn't look like he is in a wheel chair from the one still frame I've seen him in.

 

[Pink Ranger]

Have him smash through the Enterprise hull or Starfleet Academy.

I think we just figured out the ending.

Cliffhanger!

 

[CapedCrusader14]

Pike will be the villain in the third film.

PIKE SMASH!

 

[Silvermoth]

An openly gay character is the obvious one missing (Inter-racial and inter-species have long since been covered), and while they could bring one into the new films, given the limited time of each film (which will inevitably focus more on the big 2 of Kirk & Spock than anyone else) there's not a lot they can do with them other than them being there for the sake of being there.

I would love to see a gay character in ANY science fiction series, let alone Star Trek which would rock my world. Mass effect is the only exception I can think of.

It's funny that the show has had two prominent gay actors (George Takei and Zachery Quinto) but no gay characters yet. Oh well, there's still time. I just hope they kick some ass instead of the whole 'woe is me, no-one gets my feels' that we usually see gay characters have to go through.

I suppose religion is the final frontier of Star Trek. It's the only thing no-one's talked about. We've even see disabilities like laForge's be represented really well.

Of course, the thing about including religion is you would need to include all religions and you can imagine how much fun it would be stuck on a spacecraft with people talking about their religion

 

[chamber-music]

Modern Doctor Who is a science fiction series show with lots of gay, lesbian, bisexual, omnisexual characters and the spin off Torchwood had the entire team sleep with each.

They even have interspecies same sex relationships!

 

[Destructus86]

I would love to see a gay character in ANY science fiction series, let alone Star Trek which would rock my world. Mass effect is the only exception I can think of.

It's funny that the show has had two prominent gay actors (George Takei and Zachery Quinto) but no gay characters yet. Oh well, there's still time. I just hope they kick some ass instead of the whole 'woe is me, no-one gets my feels' that we usually see gay characters have to go through.

I suppose religion is the final frontier of Star Trek. It's the only thing no-one's talked about. We've even see disabilities like laForge's be represented really well.

Of course, the thing about including religion is you would need to include all religions and you can imagine how much fun it would be stuck on a spacecraft with people talking about their religion

I don't think the climate is still not right for gay characters. There's still a lot of fear of low ratings/money flow if they include gay characters. Basically, it's considered "risky"

 

[DarkKnight88]

The problem with a gay character for the sake of a gay character would not to make it the only reason they created said character. In the 24th century, I doubt it would even be an issue so it should be a fully developed character first who just happens to have a love interest of the same sex.

 

[terry78]

And if they make them lesbians it feels like kind of an easy copout since the horny fanboys would never object to that.

 

[wobbly]

I would love to see a gay character in ANY science fiction series, let alone Star Trek which would rock my world. Mass effect is the only exception I can think of.

It's funny that the show has had two prominent gay actors (George Takei and Zachery Quinto) but no gay characters yet. Oh well, there's still time. I just hope they kick some ass instead of the whole 'woe is me, no-one gets my feels' that we usually see gay characters have to go through.

I suppose religion is the final frontier of Star Trek. It's the only thing no-one's talked about. We've even see disabilities like laForge's be represented really well.

Of course, the thing about including religion is you would need to include all religions and you can imagine how much fun it would be stuck on a spacecraft with people talking about their religion

Well, ST VI, "The Final Frontier", was based on the notion of them actually meeting God. Kirk wasn't fooled for a minute ("Why does God need a Starship?") and it was just some alien nasty imprisoned on that planet beyond the great barrier.

Like I said before though I think the idea is that Earth people in the future simply do not bother much about religion. Certainly not to the extent we still do today. So Kirk could be Jewish, Bones could be a Protestant , Scotty a Catholic etc, but it doesn't matter at all as no-one in the future gives a crap about any of it.

It would be a logical progression. With the discovery of alien races and interacting with them, even the devout among the main religions of today would be hard pressed to keep taking their respective scriptures too seriously.

I suppose the Scientologist loonies would love it all though....

 

[Pink Ranger]

The thing is, Roddenberry was a well-known atheist, and the ethos of Star Trek is that religion is obselete. One could infer that the absence of religion is one of the conditions for the utopian society humanity benefits from in the Star Trek universe. It's not a coincidence that the only show to really feature spirituality is DS9, which was conceived of after Roddenberry's passing.

 

[Destructus86]

That's why I liked DS9...it combined religion, science and history along with war and strong characters.

 

[Young Superman]

I wish Abrams would just tell us who Cumberbatch is playing.

 

[Kane52630]

He's playing Zod.

 

[Pink Ranger]

That's why I liked DS9...it combined religion, science and history along with war and strong characters.

I agree, but then a true Roddenberry defender could claim that the message is that once the Federation became involved in the religion of a less developed society (Bajor), it lead to them getting into likely the worst war of all time.

 

[BestGirl]

I wish Abrams would just tell us who Cumberbatch is playing.

I thought it was confirmed he was playing John Harrison.

 

[C. Lee]

I suppose religion is the final frontier of Star Trek. It's the only thing no-one's talked about. We've even see disabilities like laForge's be represented really well.

Of course, the thing about including religion is you would need to include all religions and you can imagine how much fun it would be stuck on a spacecraft with people talking about their religion

It's not been totally ignored in Trek, just sparingly mentioned, Roddenberry didn't want overt Earth religious talk in his show, but it occasionaly was mentioned.....I'll look up some examples and post later.

As for a SF TV series and religion.....it's been a while since I saw it, so can't recount how exactly it went...but on an episode of BABYLON 5, some alien asks Captain Sinclaire to meet a representative from Earth's religion. At the end of the episode, Sinclaire tells him he can meet the representative...and shows him the long line of people waiting...one for each separate religion on Earth.

 

[jacobed]

I wish Abrams would just tell us who Cumberbatch is playing.

He has a million times. There is no ulterior motive, he isn't a different character like everyone wants him to be.

 

[Doc Ock]

He's playing Zod.

Kneel before me Kirk!

 

[TheHeatKitchen]

Let's say John Harrison is John Harrison and not a pseudonym for Kahn...

when young Kirk is driving the car in Star Trek, he passes another young man hitchhiking and calls him Johnny... Could that be Harrison?

 

[CapedCrusader14]

In a deleted scene, Johnny is meant to be Kirk's step brother I believe.

 

[Sawyer]

In those deleted scenes his name was George, after their father. I don't know why they changed it.

 

[Farren]

In those deleted scenes his name was George, after their father. I don't know why they changed it.

I assume that Abrams decided to just axe the character of George entirely (at least as far as his appearing in the 2009 film) once they decided to cut his other scenes. It was simpler just to turn him into a random kid that Young!Kirk knew.

 

[redhawk23]

It doesn't look like he is in a wheel chair from the one still frame I've seen him in.

Set reports have mentioned that a collection of props presented to the press included a fairly awesome cane with the starfleet logo.

 

[Farren]

Set reports have mentioned that a collection of props presented to the press included a fairly awesome cane with the starfleet logo.

Pimp!