State Your Opinion on A Character - Part 1

[Anubis]

Do you show up at Cons dressed in your Grand Dragon outfit?

 

[Franklin Richards]

No. I prefer the SS uniform.

Sieg heil!

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Do you cut a "4" out over your man-boobs, just like your precious Invisible Woman in her mid-life crisis period those same '90s?

 

[Franklin Richards]

No. I wear the Malice outfit.

 

[Anubis]

Well, I don't know about Corpy but I got a chubby thinking about your hairy ass crammed in that outfit.

 

[Kurosawa]

She looks cool, my wife has her action figure. She was a badass, well, she was supposed to be anyways.

 

[random_havoc]

I'm a big Wildcats fan! They peaked during Moore's run imo. Majestic is cool, though not as cool as Sentry imo. Zealot is awesome! Loved the culture they built up around her and her sisterhood and the other Wildcats.

That's probably the main thing that ticks me off with the New 52, they've trashed any chance of using the proper Wildcats. And man did they deserve a proper reboot. They had such good highpoints but then got flushed down the crapper beyond repair. This reboot was a perfect opportunity for that team that was wasted.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Moore's run opened a lot of doors for them, but I prefer Joe Casey's work. That guy is the definitive Wildcats writer, as far as I'm concerned.

 

[The Question]

Moore's run opened a lot of doors for them, but I prefer Joe Casey's work. That guy is the definitive Wildcats writer, as far as I'm concerned.

I'm still highly amused how Moore just kind of waltzed into mid '90s Image/Wildstorm and said "It's alright kids, I'll fix this ****."

I mean, Supreme. My God.

 

[Anubis]

Yeah, proof positive that there are no bad characters, just bad writers.

 

[The Question]

Yeah, proof positive that there are no bad characters, just bad writers.

His issue of Spawn was really good, too. It was the start of his "writing everything is a Jewish Mysticism subtext" phase.

 

[Anubis]

Well, that explains Promethea.

 

[The Question]

Well, that explains Promethea.

What's really weird is that I heard his latest book was a super gritty crime drama about a SWAT team. That's about as far from Promethea as you can get.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I'm still highly amused how Moore just kind of waltzed into mid '90s Image/Wildstorm and said "It's alright kids, I'll fix this ****."

I mean, Supreme. My God.

Even with Wildcats, it's like he put the bare minimum required thought into his stories and they still wound up 100 times better than anything the previous creators had done. Exploring the caste system of Khera and the politics between Daemonites and Kherubim was awesome, and it's so spectacularly obvious when you think about it, yet no one else bothered to do it in the previous 20 issues.

 

[Anubis]

He also created Ladytron, and you know.....she was awesome.

 

[BLACKVULCAN]

Do you show up at Cons dressed in your Grand Dragon outfit?

hahahaha i think that would trump Cobra commander

No. I prefer the SS uniform.

Sieg heil!

Bwhahahahahahaha! i want one! then i could be

hahahahaha (that was a great movie!)

ahem.... carry on about characters i have no idea about! sorry!

 

[Mystirious]

I know right? Just because they're all mixed up in 90's excess doesn't mean they don't have years of awesome stories to read.

True 'dat

Some really good writers have handled the characters

She looks cool, my wife has her action figure. She was a badass, well, she was supposed to be anyways.

She has an action figure?

Okay I need to own that

He also created Ladytron, and you know.....she was awesome.

Like a possum

 

[TheCorpulent1]

He also created Ladytron, and you know.....she was awesome.

F***, I forgot all about Ladytron somehow. Goddamnit, DC really needs to start a Wildcats series up.

 

[Anubis]

Well, that's it for Zealot.

Spoiler

Your turn.

Grifter

 

[Mystirious]

Loved him in Wildcats but so far I've not been digging his new solo series from DC

F***, I forgot all about Ladytron somehow. Goddamnit, DC really needs to start a Wildcats series up.

I would read it

 

[Anubis]

To be fair, if they did, they'd probably put some hack on it who would f**k it up anyway.

Grifter....the best way to describe him would be early Wolverine mixed with Hawkeye, minus all that boos**t mysterious past crap. The guy was just cool.

What they've done with him in the DCnU however has been utter s**t. If I were trying to shove a guy like him into such a world, I woulda had him be a former Knight of Checkmate or something.

 

[SpideyInATree]

I had always got the vibe that the Grifter character is cool. Gave the first issue of the new series a chance thinking it was a good starting point but it just didn't do a thing for me.

 

[Anubis]

That's because it's Grifter in name only.

Imagine if you picked up a brand new #1 of Spider-Man, and instead of being the wise cracking Everyman you know and love, he's a male Super model who gets abducted by spider-aliens, given spider-powers, and shoots webbing out of his butt.

That's essentially what happened to Grifter.

 

[random_havoc]

That's because it's Grifter in name only.

Imagine if you picked up a brand new #1 of Spider-Man, and instead of being the wise cracking Everyman you know and love, he's a male Super model who gets abducted by spider-aliens, given spider-powers, and shoots webbing out of his butt.

That's essentially what happened to Grifter.

Yup. And you've pretty much described him perfectly in your earlier post too. Dude was awesome, and they've ruined him. The one thing that most singularly ticks me off about the relaunch. I mean, they screwed up Voodoo too but at least her comic has a cool concept.

 

[SuperFerret]

Grifter has always struck me as a character that looks kinda like he's supposed to be cool, but sucks.