XtremelyBaneful
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what's ironic is that at 19, holland is right around the age that most college students are freshman. and he's gonna be portraying a sophomore or something, in high school...I hate the HS setting, I would have loved if they started with college so I'm disappointed that we'll get teen Spidey. However a reboot was completely necessary, Andrew was completely awful in the role and both of those movies were bad. Tom Holland already feels like a better PP/SM
I agree though. I wanted a college peter parker, and that's another reason why I was rooting for dylan o'brien, coz at this point he would be the ideal, probably perfect peter parker in college...ugh. and now we've got this tom holland guy who's college age who can also easily portray a college freshman but instead they're gonna just make him a high school kid.
this is how I feel about nolan's batman trilogy. as much as he tried to "ground it in reality", i'll never for a second believe that a secret group of ninja terrorists claiming to be like the illuminati ("we sacked rome, loaded ships with plague rats, burned london to the ground") exists in a realistic setting, or that fear toxin, or a man who can punch through concrete like a bag.Sorry, but you set yourself up for it. You can't have it both ways. You can't dismiss something and say, 'Hey, this is silly, please don't put in something that's already so silly it's almost a parody of itself.' It's fine if you personally don't like it or don't want it. I'm not going to diss someone for that. I personally think it's a very limiting and narrow view of a character who has been around for 75 years, but we all have our personal preference. But let's not pretend something is as silly or cheesy as stuff about people dressing up in pajamas and fighting clays and clowns is some kind of realistic portrayal of life on anything other than the symbolic.
I agree with that - that's one of the reasons why I think daredevil is great, I mean it's not so much dark as it is just gritty, but it was still great to me. it's also a reason why av2 was so disappointing to me. the first teaser trailer made it feel like the film was gonna have a much darker tone than previously established but then the film comes out and ends up being such an utter disappointment on sooo many fronts.You say I set myself up for it, I say it's unnecessarily condescending, you could have just ignored my post or made your point without trying to degrade another person's opinion. It's obvious that superhero movies are inherently unrealistic and yes, even cheesy if you look at it in a literal sense. But I think most superhero movie fans are happy that these movies are being taken more seriously as a genre, both in terms of tone and reception from otherwise pretensions people who think the entire genre is a joke.
Sure, guys dressing up in costumes, doing fantastical things and fighting fantastical creatures or costumed villains isn't exactly Shakespeare but I for one am glad that they're trying to blend these characters into a more realistic setting and showing that the genre is no less valid than any other. Plenty of movie genre's are inherently unrealistic and cheesy, that doesn't mean that you can't approach it from a perspective that lends itself to making not only good comic book movies, but good movies in general that just happen to be based on comic book characters.
You can take all kinds of different approaches in regards to comic book movies, I prefer embracing the source material while taking a more real world approach. Yeah, they're dressed in costumes you could call ridiculous, with powers that don't exist but plenty of these characters have complex and realistic qualities and backstories too. You can say it's hypocritical to accept powers and costumes but not accept kid superhero's, and hell I guess it is, but that doesn't change my preference. It's as simple as personal preference, some things I just don't care for even if it's contradictory. I do find kid superhero's more cheesy and silly than their adult counterparts, you don't agree and that's fine, we have different tolerance levels, you're entitled to your opinion just like I am. And I'm fine with you thinking it's contradictory or hypocritical, it's still my preference. I don't care for kid/teen movies of any genre the majority of the time, just because this genre is based on alot completely unrealistic themes doesn't make it any more enjoyable for me. You say superhero movies are inherently silly and cheesy, well then I say adding kids into the mix is just unnecessarily doubling down on that factor and to top it off with lousy kid actors that are usually cringe worthy even in the most serious of genres.
I don't think calling the specified work cheesy or silly is condescending, that's just how the person who views it feels of it. it may be an unpopular opinion compared to others' but it's still what they made of it.One could also argue that calling something silly and cheesy is just as condescending, since there are people out there who like these things and don't find them silly or cheesy, at least not in a negative context.
like...I thought parts of harry potter and the prisoner of azkaban were extremely corny...I don't see how it is condescending to say or believe that, and i'm also a hardcore harry potter fan.
are we talking the cinematic fox wolverine? or the comic character?The one that's always stuck out to me is Wolverine. He's supposed to have this reputation as the ultimate badass loner, but he's got more friends and family than anyone else in the MU.