Stephen King's "IT" remake has found a writer - Part 4

[MAN O STEEL]

The bathroom scene makes perfect sense for me. When she's alone and the blood gushes from the sink, it is a horrifying scene and is treated as such , however the idea of the cheesy 80's montage song when cleaning it represents that it no longer has to be viewed that way anymore because she's not alone. They see it to and they agree to help her clean it, as though it's not a big deal. It's a visual and audible direction they took to show that they are stronger together. To show that once they have each others backs, they no longer have to feel dread and fear. That's what I took from it and I loved it.

 

[JtheDreamer]

They should have left the bathroom as something just for Bev to see and deal with. The kids didn't go out looking for Eddie's leper. They didn't go burn the painting come to life for Stan.

Plus, it would have taken a very long time to get rid of all of that blood and the father would've gotten home long before. The whole thing was cheesier than a box of Kraft macaroni.

 

[Crosswind Ghost]

Andy and Barbara just confirmed in a live q&a today that there will be a directors cut for the blu ray release!! He said it's not locked down but should be about 15 minutes longer!

 

[The Infernal]

Andy and Barbara just confirmed in a live q&a today that there will be a directors cut for the blu ray release!! He said it's not locked down but should be about 15 minutes longer!

Room for at least one more 80's music montage.

 

[Matt Mortem]

****! YEAH! Now I need a date for the blu ray because I want to watch that movie a dozen or more times.

What'd be awesome is a kids commentary track. Get them together and let the gab the whole run time.

 

[Loki882]

This was really good. I'd probably give if either an 8.5 or a 9/10. Honestly my personal biggest pet peeve was the whole

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"Beverly gets kidnapped" thing. I literally rolled my eyes when that happened. I guess maybe it was meant to take the place of the weird sewer orgy from the book, but the switchout didn't really work for me.

Still whomever cast these child actors, and Bill Skarsgard needs a bonus because the casting was on-point imo.

 

[The Guard]

The bathroom scene makes perfect sense for me. When she's alone and the blood gushes from the sink, it is a horrifying scene and is treated as such , however the idea of the cheesy 80's montage song when cleaning it represents that it no longer has to be viewed that way anymore because she's not alone. They see it to and they agree to help her clean it, as though it's not a big deal. It's a visual and audible direction they took to show that they are stronger together. To show that once they have each others backs, they no longer have to feel dread and fear. That's what I took from it and I loved it.

They're cleaning the blood so she doesn't have to continue to be traumatized by it.

I can't believe people are questioning the inclusion of this sequence.

 

[Matt Mortem]

They're cleaning the blood so she doesn't have to continue to be traumatized by it.

I can't believe people are questioning the inclusion of this sequence.

I'm not completely questioning it, but the execution was a bit too 80's montage in flavor. It didn't ruin the movie or anything. I still ****ing love this flick.

 

[Loki882]

Isn't the movie set in the 80's though? So it makes some kind of sense at least.

 

[Brother Jack]

The blood cleaning scene comes from the book. It's in the mini-series as well. The difference with this film is that there's so much blood sprayed everywhere that it's kind of ridiculous that they cleaned it up in one afternoon. It's taking one thing that's creepy and ramping it way up.

 

[Crosswind Ghost]

The Cure being one of my favorite bands, I had no problem with the scene, it worked in the context of the love triangle that the scene ended on. Six different ways is just a fantastic song, and I loved the use of it.

 

[JtheDreamer]

They're cleaning the blood so she doesn't have to continue to be traumatized by it.

I can't believe people are questioning the inclusion of this sequence.

Again you missed what was being criticized.

 

[Broseph44]

They're cleaning the blood so she doesn't have to continue to be traumatized by it.

I can't believe people are questioning the inclusion of this sequence.

Isn't the movie set in the 80's though? So it makes some kind of sense at least.

The Cure being one of my favorite bands, I had no problem with the scene, it worked in the context of the love triangle that the scene ended on. Six different ways is just a fantastic song, and I loved the use of it.

This this and this ^

 

[Mandon Knight]

I thought the scene (and everything about the film) rocked, loved every second. I think it helps enormously if you lived at a similar age to the kids during the same period in terms of the appreciation of the 80's touches.

 

[danoyse]

They should have left the bathroom as something just for Bev to see and deal with. The kids didn't go out looking for Eddie's leper. They didn't go burn the painting come to life for Stan.

No, it's important to the story that they cleaned it together. It was really their first stand against It. Bev couldn't clean that up alone, but together as a unit they were stronger and could wipe away something that was left behind to torture one of them. It also allowed the others to come forward and say they had seen It too.

The lady in the painting and the leper weren't still around for them to find (honestly, I think Pennywise would have stayed hidden and let everyone think they were crazy)

Bev was abused by her father and didn't tell anyone. She was abused at school, and didn't try to diffuse the rumors because she couldn't tell the truth about her abuse at home. Pennywise let the blood stain the walls and made it stay there because It thought it would be one more abuse she'd hide.

When she brought the others in, she proved Pennywise wrong and it wound up making them stronger as a group. The music made the horror of it fade even more so.

 

[Pennywise]

Andy and Barbara just confirmed in a live q&a today that there will be a directors cut for the blu ray release!! He said it's not locked down but should be about 15 minutes longer!

Do you know where it said that on Twitter?? That's awesome!

 

[The Infernal]

I've no issue with them doing the blood cleaning scene. I just think it is more effectively portrayed in the mini-series. The music montage is far too jarring and seems to make light of the situation. I have the same issue with the rock fight scene. It completely undercuts the seriousness of the scene and makes it all look like fun and games.

 

[Blitzkrieg]

http://www.thewrap.com/it-second-weekend-ticket-sales-are-fandangos-best-for-any-horror-movie/

“It” is unstoppable at the box office. Fandango figures for the hit movie are the best the online ticket seller has seen for second-week sales of any horror movie, ever.

The film starring Bill Skarsgard as Pennywise the Clown is on the top of the Fanticipation chart, with the buzz indicator being at 89 out of 100 points. It is also double the second week sales of the next closest high-performing horror movie, “Get Out.”

“‘It’ isn’t clowning around as it continues to attract new fans and repeat viewers,” said Fandango Managing Editor Erik Davis. “Horror has never been hotter at the box office, especially smart, well-crafted thrillers like ‘It’ that break new ground. We can expect to see ‘It’ remaining a King-size hit for the rest of the month.”

 

[Art Vandelay]

My bet, [BLACKOUT]he ain't dead [/BLACKOUT]

Especially since

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Henry is ultimately found guilty of doing the murders. I know that kids go missing in Derry regularly, but this seemed like a way for It to cover It's tracks. That the murders had stopped, and a culprit was found, and things could go back to normal.

 

[Art Vandelay]

I think my biggest issue with the film is the reason why the Losers decide to take down Pennywise.

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In the film, they go after It to rescue Bev. Why change it to a damsel in distress situation? I loved their motivation in the novel and the 1990 film, that although they were only kids, they decided to stand up to the evil rather than let it continue to infest Derry.

This was a pretty sore point for me. In the book, the journey into the sewers is much, much more harrowing. First, you get the dawning horror that the entire town is under It's spell, and the unnerving realization that the Losers have all become ghosts in their parents minds. There's also the fact that town becomes pretty much become deserted, as if everyone has a sense of what's about to go down, and decides to just stay at home. Then, there's the fact Henry and his gang are after them, forcing them into the sewers. Finally, they make a conscious decision to confront It, knowing they may never see the light of day again.

 

[Blitzkrieg]

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/horror-hit-get-directors-cut-exclusive-201741697.html

Muschietti and his producer/sister, Barbara Muschietti, broke the news about the It director’s cut on Thursday morning, noting that Warner Bros. had asked them to produce the new version shortly before they came to our studios to participate in a Facebook Live.

Asked if there were any scenes that he found difficult to trim (considering the novel weighed in at 1,000-plus pages), Andy Muschietti said there was one in particular that stood out. “There’s a great scene, it’s a bit of a payoff of the Stanley Uris plot which is the bar mitzvah, where he delivers a speech against all expectations… it’s basically blaming all the adults of Derry [for the town’s history of deadly “accidents” and child disappearances], and it has a great resolution. … Maybe it will be in the director’s cut!”

“Right, we are going to do a director’s cut. We were told this morning,” Barbara Muschietti chimed in.

Andy Muschietti said there would “probably [be] an extra 15 minutes for hardcore fans” in total, including a “very funny” extended version of the quarry scene, where the group of young protagonists who call themselves The Losers Club try to gin up the courage to jump off a cliff into the water below.

 

[enquencle]

I think the changes in the final act were made to accentuate how their friendship is really what can defeat It. I'm not saying i'm totally ok with ti, but i can see where it comes from.

As an avid fan of the book, i can't help but feel that there were things missing, like some of you have mentioned, such as the fact that they're like ghosts for the adults or how you can pretty much feel the dread in the city as you read it. But honestly, i think unless someone does an 8 episode mini series on HBO or something like that, this is as good as it gets to an adaptation.

The cast, production design and photography was all spot on. And it exudes a certain respect and love for the source material.

 

[Mandon Knight]

I think the changes in the final act were made to accentuate how their friendship is really what can defeat It. I'm not saying i'm totally ok with ti, but i can see where it comes from.

As an avid fan of the book, i can't help but feel that there were things missing, like some of you have mentioned, such as the fact that they're like ghosts for the adults or how you can pretty much feel the dread in the city as you read it. But honestly, i think unless someone does an 8 episode mini series on HBO or something like that, this is as good as it gets to an adaptation.

The cast, production design and photography was all spot on. And it exudes a certain respect and love for the source material.

King writes in such a descriptive manner (which makes him my fave author), that as you say, a like for like film version will on the whole, always have to swap / interchange / leave out. For me, the film had the feel, the essence of the book enough with the characters and drive of the story, enough to place it very highly in my thoughts of it, did it have everything I wanted ? No, but it more than enough to sell it as an excellent adaptation.

 

[Matt Mortem]

No, it's important to the story that they cleaned it together. It was really their first stand against It. Bev couldn't clean that up alone, but together as a unit they were stronger and could wipe away something that was left behind to torture one of them. It also allowed the others to come forward and say they had seen It too.

The lady in the painting and the leper weren't still around for them to find (honestly, I think Pennywise would have stayed hidden and let everyone think they were crazy)

Bev was abused by her father and didn't tell anyone. She was abused at school, and didn't try to diffuse the rumors because she couldn't tell the truth about her abuse at home. Pennywise let the blood stain the walls and made it stay there because It thought it would be one more abuse she'd hide.

When she brought the others in, she proved Pennywise wrong and it wound up making them stronger as a group. The music made the horror of it fade even more so.

Thank you for laying it out for me. Makes much more sense.

 

[enquencle]

King writes in such a descriptive manner (which makes him my fave author), that as you say, a like for like film version will on the whole, always have to swap / interchange / leave out. For me, the film had the feel, the essence of the book enough with the characters and drive of the story, enough to place it very highly in my thoughts of it, did it have everything I wanted ? No, but it more than enough to sell it as an excellent adaptation.

Yes, it has all the feel of the novel. That was honestly a big challenge, and they made an oustanding job. I'd go as far as saying it's probably my favorite horror film ever, but I'll see it again before making a final judgement.

I totally respect and love that they went for character first and Pennywise second. And that they saved It's best parts for the movie.