Sci-Fi Stranger Things (Netflix) - Part 1

[KRYPTON INC.]

I too thought the ending was bum drops but I understood her reasoning [Joyce]
why can't El stay with Max I mean they have a spare room now [too soon]
and Jonathan seem old enough to be on his own him and Nancy could move in together

and I know I'm suppose to not take things so seriously about a show about open dimensions and kids with god like powers but still those must be the dumbest military in existence to let Dustin and a little girl infiltrate a top secret military base I couldn't buy none of that How does our military not intercept those messages after the events of the first 2 seasons

I was rooting for Steve that whole time but couldn't take those scenes seriously

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Well for one Max's stepdad is an abusive ******* that shaped Billy into the borderline maniac that he was. Secondly, Max's parents were never made aware of all the supernatural shenanigans. There are literally no other families in Hawkins qualified or aware enough to take in Eleven. Even Mike's family, Nancy knows what's up bit Mike's mom, dad and kid sister are blissfully unaware and bought the cover story the government slung their way.

 

[javonstokess]

Overall, I enjoyed season 3. Better than season 2 IMO

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Mike has been a little *****e since season 1. I don't know why anyone would be surprised to see him get worse as he hit his teen years.

Am I the only one that thinks Hooper is stuck in the Upside Down?

I totally understand why Joyce would want to leave. Why would you keep your family in a place that has kidnapped and almost killed your kids 3 times (at least)? It's literally the most realistic choice in the whole show.

I agree that Lucas and Max's relationship got subverted for more El/Mike drama, but I get it from a storytelling POV.

Steve can't catch a break in the romance department. Since he went "hero" he just keeps getting more responsibility and less "love". lol

 

[TheFuture]

The acting was again great particularly from young Thurman (Hawke?), Sadie Sink and David Harbour.

The Russian angle didn't really do much for me and things did meander at times but overall I enjoyed it. Was not expecting to be kicked in the balls like that at the end.

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I don't blame Joyce for moving; I mean the only reason the other kids are still in Hawkins is because their parents remain largely ignorant of the target that has been on their kids in particular for years.

 

[Brother Jack]

Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
The incident at Hawkings Lab in S01 ( 1983 ) was caused by the Russian experiment in S03 ( 1983 ) and Eleven was brought in by "doctor creepy white hair" to help solve the problem because he is an "expert" in weird stuff. Correct ?

I don't think the Russians struck first. Their attempt to open the gate at the beginning of Season 3 was in 1984. Dr. Brenner brought in Eleven to spy on the Russians because of the cold war and Eleven accidentally opened the portal to the Upside Down, starting the whole mess.

 

[Sundancer]

They amped up the humor in this one, didn't they? Was it me, or did this one "feel" more 80's than the other two seasons?

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

They amped up the humor in this one, didn't they? Was it me, or did this one "feel" more 80's than the other two seasons?

I felt this was indeed a lot more over the top than the other seasons in regards to both humor and indeed the 80'd Nostalgia material. It was a nice accent before, here it came off a lot more like shove it down your throat pandering.

 

[Infinity9999x]

So question

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It’s pretty clear Hopp’s not actually dead right? Since we didn’t see him vaporized, I feel like he’s either gotta be in the Upside down, or in Russia as the mid credits sequence heavily teased with “No, not the American.” Possibly indicating that the Russians found a way to open a gate locally and ended up finding Hopper to pull out along with some Demigorgans.

 

[BrollySupersj]

So question

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It’s pretty clear Hopp’s not actually dead right? Since we didn’t see him vaporized, I feel like he’s either gotta be in the Upside down, or in Russia as the mid credits sequence heavily teased with “No, not the American.” Possibly indicating that the Russians found a way to open a gate locally and ended up finding Hopper to pull out along with some Demigorgans.

I was under the impression that...

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The Russians got the Demogoron from the Hawkins gate. Seeing as they had cages and cattleprods at that location, as if they were expecting to find some. As for Hopper, well I'm going to just believe he died. He was right there when the thing overloaded and it vaporized the Russians on the opposite end of the room, so....I don't know.

My question is how do the Russians keep their Demogoron from phasing between dimensions like it did in Hawkins?

 

[Ninjablade]

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When watching the final episode again, I noticed that Hopper was noticeably missing from the wide shot of the key blowing up, which is a pretty big mistake to have if unintentional. I imagine he probably went into the Upside Down for the time being.

I wonder if revealing Hopper is alive to everyone will be tied into the return of Eleven’s powers.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

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Okay... Ya'll can hate me and this idea as much as you want but... Total Mind Flayer Controlled Hopper is what we will get in the next season. And Eleven will be forced to destroy him to put an end to this once and for all. So for all intents and purposes our last look at Hopper will have been right before the Russian Gate explosion.

 

[conan69]

For those of you who feel gutted by the end of S3... there is a mid credits scene for the last episode and it might give a hint on some of the speculation here.

 

[Sundancer]

Did anyone actually like Billy in S2 or S3?

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I thought he was a good non-supernatural antagonist.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

Did anyone actually like Billy in S2 or S3?

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I thought he was a good non-supernatural antagonist.

I liked him fine. He was a grade A *****e-monkey but the show let us know even in season 2 that a huge part of that was his environment. He wasn't born bad. Like Steve (My spirit Animal, long may he scoop...) the Duffers and Levy didn't just have him be a cartoon, there were reasons. And then what they did here at the end of season 3 made me happy they didn't forget he was a human being and not just a trope from the 80's.

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

And now... A few ONLY for those that have seen the whole season:

Spoiler: ST S3 Spoilers:

 

[Lencho01]

‘Stranger Things 3’ Breaks Netflix Four-Day Viewing Record, Streamer Says

 

[KRYPTON INC.]

‘Stranger Things 3’ Breaks Netflix Four-Day Viewing Record, Streamer Says

The Duffers know that they can piggy back the show onto holidays so I am totally expecting a season four to coincide it's release with Christmas.

 

[P Supreme]

just found out the girl that played Robin is Uma Thurman and Ethan Hawks daughter
wow good job them guys

 

[TheSmoothKnight]

I loved it. Hard to pick which season I liked the best between 1 and 3. Can’t wait for Season 4!

 

[kguillou]

Also can we give major props Kyle Dixon and Michael Stein for composing easily the best scores on television for three seasons? I am never not grooving to the music in this show.

 

[harlequinade]

The selection of songs is also absolutely wonderful. But the original score..."Aftermath" is so stunning

 

[Legendver2]

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two doomed long distance relationships...

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Nah, I really doubt they'd move more than maybe a 2 hr drive away. Besides Jon and Nancy are grown adults now, they can easily drive to each other, and Mike and El went through that one year without seeing each other, so a regular ol' long-distanced relationship is like nothing.

Also Id be fine with them taking a 3 year break so that El and the other kids are 18 in season 4.

Netflix isn't going to risk their bread and butter show losing steam with that long a break. Besides, aside from Noah and Millie, everyone's going to be 17-18 by the time filming starts anyway, and Noah and Millie acting abilities can easily portray a year or 2 older.

It does feel like a good time jump is appropriate right now. And even though I love the show... this feels like a good moment to hit the pause button, story wise.

Depends on the jump length. If you jump too many years, you gotta spend an episode or 2 out of an 8-9 episode season to catch the audience up with the characters' current situation, especially

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since there was a major move by the Byers and El.

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They also need to develop El's powers a bit as the telekinetic stuff began to get stale.

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This is actually a perfect opportunity for that actually. To be fair to her powers development, she's only REALLY used it for a few days tops 3 times in 3 years. Her having lost her powers can have her go through a power-up arc next season and discover new abilities.

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Hopefully he'll be on hand to diagnose Eleven and Mike's more serious relationship issues in the future.

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I actually don't want to see that. Murray's interventions only works because he unveils the hidden sexual tension between said couples. I really don't think that's a viable, or smart, route to go with El and Mike at this point. Besides, they seemed to fix their own relationship problem this season just fine through self reflection and calming down, so they actually seem like the more mature couple out of the 4 romantic pairings in the show.

 

[Legendver2]

Outside of Noah and Millie, they will all be 17 or older by the time filming for season 4 comes around. Galen, Finn, and Sadie were all born in 2002. Caleb was born in 2001. So I do think it is funny that they couldn't pass for high school seniors. They literally will be.

Also the kids all look older then they did during the season. Which makes sense, they ended filming last November. 8 months ago.



I am hoping, with the talk of Thanksgiving and Christmas, we see the next season by December 2020. But considering how long this past season took, probably will be waiting until 2021.

The average audience would probably feel they "look" too young to play actual high school seniors even though they are in real life because most of our fictional high school centric stories we consume feature actors in their mid 20's portraying 17-18 year olds lol. And this is one of the main reasons I think the Duffers really want to end this at 5 seasons, if 4 isn't the final one, to cap them off when they enter adulthood around 18. As far as release date goes, December 2020 seems about right, since there was a 1.5 year gap between this and last season, and going to December 2021 would be way over 2 years, and I doubt Netflix wan'ts to wait that long in between seasons to what's probably considered their bread and butter series right now.

I still don't like the ending. I get all of your arguments regarding

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Joyce's decision to leave and maybe it's because I disliked her character this season, but I still think it's a poor choice. In reality, everyone in that town would leave, but this is a TV show and she's isolating her kids and El even more. Besides, do we really think the Mind Flayer wouldn't have tracked El down to wherever she was living?

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El is pretty much a walking target at this point seeing as she ****ed up the Mindflayer's plans twice now, no matter where they move That's why I'm still waiting for a season where they decide not to sit around and wait for shenanigans to happen, and actually take the fight to the Upside Down itself and destroy OG Mindflayer. Because even the Mindflayer in this season is not the actual one, just another extension of it that was left behind from season 2.

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I too thought the ending was bum drops but I understood her reasoning [Joyce]
why can't El stay with Max I mean they have a spare room now [too soon]
and Jonathan seem old enough to be on his own him and Nancy could move in together

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Lol you really want a super-powered child living under Billy's abusive dad's roof?

Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
The incident at Hawkings Lab in S01 ( 1983 ) was caused by the Russian experiment in S03 ( 1983 ) and Eleven was brought in by "doctor creepy white hair" to help solve the problem because he is an "expert" in weird stuff. Correct ?

Actually, it's more likely the reverse. S1's experiment was made so they can use kids like El to spy on Russians. My guess is the Russians found out about this "technology" and decided to do experiments on it themselves.

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Okay... Ya'll can hate me and this idea as much as you want but... Total Mind Flayer Controlled Hopper is what we will get in the next season. And Eleven will be forced to destroy him to put an end to this once and for all. So for all intents and purposes our last look at Hopper will have been right before the Russian Gate explosion.

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Yea that's not gonna work lol. Both season's we've seen the Mindflayer, it actually never directly attacked or directly took over anyone, so I doubt it'll do that this time with Hopper, especially since it got ****ed up by El twice now, I don't think it will risk it's actual body in that fight. Besides we've seen them pretty much exorcise the Mindflayer control from both Will and Billy already, there's no reason they won't try to do the same if that happened to Hopper.

 

[Lencho01]

The Duffer Brothers Share Some Predictably Vague Teases About Stranger Things 4

Stranger Things' David Harbour Has Thoughts About That Post-Credits Sequence

 

[Octavias]

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1. The Back to the future movie is foreshadowing time travel in a future season. It’s possible that in the end El stops herself from ever opening the gate... also a time traveling Arnold wannabe would be bomb
2. Checkboxing 80’s themes we still need predator, the fly, maximum overdrive and maybe critters... big trouble in little china perhaps... there are a metric ton of untapped iconic 86 and 87 movie themes to hit on and thats the period we are hitting here...
3. I still believe Will is the ultimate key to the upside down, not El... i think its more than coincidence that the boys d and d games foreshadowed exactly what ends up happening... i think he has powers that we don’t know about and subconsciously uses them to create these situations out of his emotional trauma. I think him abandoning the group is going to draw the spooky stuff to wherever they move, because he is the key...