Suicide Squad box office prediction - Part 2

[Marvin]

Eh, I see this as a big FU to China in my eyes.

lol

nah, dc needs to step up their china presence. Adding that 200plus million to the bigger films is key to approaching 1.5ww. Removing china from some of these decent performers and even 600mill becomes more rare(TWS).

That being said, given the slew of cbms that have been "officially" budgeted around 175mill. SS is definitely performing, especially without the china element. Each week it seemingly passes another one, minus china.
The likes of TDW and XMenApoc, if this movie did what those similarly budgeted movies did(especially if you remove their china)...the editorials of failure wouldn't be as 'subtle' as they are now. It's films like those that really drive home how big 300mill is, let alone the 200mill(which is also big imo).

Among other things WB can surely understand two things here. A competition free release date and the shared universe novelty. Two things many films in this genre have enjoyed that MOS surely didn't. Had that only been sausage party and petes dragon instead of what it ended up dredging through, 8million more would have been likely.

Still, WB needs to figure out China, sooner the better for them. Till then it's 5mill away from GotG, in a parallel universe.

 

[Legendver2]

Where all dem haters at

 

[AVEITWITHJAMON]

Where all dem haters at

 

[The Joker]

Where all dem haters at

What do you want them to say? Congrats to WB for making some profit on a movie they hacked to bits in the editing room? Its not like this gives them the message they can pull this stunt again or anything right. What a victory. Fans should be so happy.

 

[Greenlite]

Foreign should do another 11+5.5+3.5+2+1+1=24M, plus Japan 10-15M, totalling 410+
Domestic 310M+ likely
So WW=720M+

Beating GOTG (Aug release) WW minus China, suffice to say a very popular franchise WW.

I think, or I hope WB wants to improve on the RT scores, or they are motivated to push for 900M+ (with China) for Wondy so they are willing to work out how to get a fresh RT so that 900M is achievable.

Anyone seen what the G-guy from b.o. twitter says?

 

[brandeezy89]

What do you want them to say? Congrats to WB for making some profit on a movie they hacked to bits in the editing room? Its not like this gives them the message they can pull this stunt again or anything right. What a victory. Fans should be so happy.

Congrats the universe can keep going.

 

[The Joker]

The universe was going to keep going anyway. JL and WW were coming out whether this movie turned any profit or not. Only now WB are probably not worried about editing the hell out of them if they feel like it.

 

[LoganGambit87]

Where all dem haters at

What do you want them to say? Congrats to WB for making some profit on a movie they hacked to bits in the editing room? Its not like this gives them the message they can pull this stunt again or anything right. What a victory. Fans should be so happy.

 

[Knight-Tale]

WB should be happy with this success
No competition releases are becoming rare and not many studios want to release in august for some reason

In any case WW will have much more competition and seems unlikely to hit the numbers suicide squad is doing. Maybe if the movie is good you could say it will inspire faith in the execs there but overall JL is what everything hinges on right now.
Since that is what all 4 movies lead up to

 

[HaplessHenchman]

The people still trying to brand this movie as a failure are just embarrassing themselves at this point.

 

[ManWithNoName18]

So what do you guys think is behind the success of Suicide Squad?

It got approximately the the same reviews as BVS, and worse reviews than MOS. but it's poised to do better than MOS BoxOffice wise. And percent wise it's legs are better than BVS's.

While I understand BVS had the trailer 2 debacle. I think MOS had a fantastic marketing campaign with all three main trailers (especially the third being phenomenal).

Just asking? IMO SS edges out BVS, but both aren't as good as MOS in terms of quality. So why is Suicide Squad being recieved so well BoxOffice-wise?

 

[Wildcard]

WB should be happy with this success
No competition releases are becoming rare and not many studios want to release in august for some reason

In any case WW will have much more competition and seems unlikely to hit the numbers suicide squad is doing. Maybe if the movie is good you could say it will inspire faith in the execs there but overall JL is what everything hinges on right now.
Since that is what all 4 movies lead up to

That may not be the case if WW delivers. I think it can still break out huge even with the competition if it's good & can leave a good impression on people. There's a lot of hype surrounding the film, it just has to be good/great.

 

[Micromind]

So what do you guys think is behind the success of Suicide Squad?

It got approximately the the same reviews as BVS, and worse reviews than MOS. but it's poised to do better than MOS BoxOffice wise. And percent wise it's legs are better than BVS's.

While I understand BVS had the trailer 2 debacle. I think MOS had a fantastic marketing campaign with all three main trailers (especially the third being phenomenal).

Just asking? IMO SS edges out BVS, but both aren't as good as MOS in terms of quality. So why is Suicide Squad being recieved so well BoxOffice-wise?

Repeat viewings and better wom as compared to BvS.

 

[Wanda Detroit]

"Lack of competition" is not what is propelling SS's numbers no matter what people like to believe. If no one wanted to see, they wouldn't. If people want to go see Wonder Woman they will no matter what else is out. Some people just can't accept the fact that SS is doing very well despite critics. Wonder Woman will succeed on its own merits. If only some people would let go of their irrational need to see things fail. It's pathetic.

 

[Silliminite]

672m WW.....before Japan, right? Woah. The sequel's gonna do gangbusters.

 

[Legendver2]

Repeat viewings and better wom as compared to BvS.

I think he's more asking what is it about SS that is leading to better WOM than BvS.

I for one think it's that aspect of fun that MCU has a ton of but DCEU is lacking (which I have no problem with). Yea the story was weak, the editing hacked it to pieces, and there were a lot of flaws, but you can't deny that compared to BvS and MoS, the general audience had a lot more fun watching Harley's antics, Boomerangs one liners, and Will Smith being...well...Will Smith, than the superhero tragedy that is BvS.

 

[Kathemy]

So what do you guys think is behind the success of Suicide Squad?

It got approximately the the same reviews as BVS, and worse reviews than MOS. but it's poised to do better than MOS BoxOffice wise. And percent wise it's legs are better than BVS's.

First I'll refrain from speaking out about the quality of Man of Steel since I am yet to enjoy any film about Superman. The only superhero that bores me more is Wonder Woman.

However, about the reviews - Suicide Squad didn't get the same reviews as Batman v Superman. Sure, both movies had approximately the same rotten score, but the word of mouth and the actual content of the reviews (if anyone bothered to read beyond the percentage) were very different. The consensus about Suicide Squad from both critics and the general audience, professional gushers and bashers set aside, seemed to be "a very flawed popcorn movie which despite its shortcomings manages to be rather enjoyable." The consensus about the theatrical cut of Batman v Superman, applying the same criteria, can probably best be described as "a boring mess." This translates to very different numbers and probably goes a long way explaining the latter film's historically weak legs.

For me personally, the setting of Batman v Superman reminded me of the innumerable crossover one-shot comics of both DC and Marvel - think "Spiderman Meets The Hulk!" - and this is an epically cheesy concept, yet the movie really tried hard to take itself seriously and fell flat so hard I couldn't even get through my initial screening. Suicide Squad is much lighter fare and much more tongue-in-cheek. Also - and I realize this might be offensive to some for me to say and may be reaching, but here goes anyway - I think Suicide Squad benefitted to some extent of a "movie Trump effect." Fanboying and fangirling over the movie became a statement of "screw the critics, screw their elitist whining." Tons of journalists complained about the "hypersexualized" Harlequin. Guess what, most men (and bizarrely enough in this case apparently also tons of women) like watching sexy girls.

Anyway, my five cents...

 

[idiot09]

So what do you guys think is behind the success of Suicide Squad?

It got approximately the the same reviews as BVS, and worse reviews than MOS. but it's poised to do better than MOS BoxOffice wise. And percent wise it's legs are better than BVS's.

While I understand BVS had the trailer 2 debacle. I think MOS had a fantastic marketing campaign with all three main trailers (especially the third being phenomenal).

Just asking? IMO SS edges out BVS, but both aren't as good as MOS in terms of quality. So why is Suicide Squad being recieved so well BoxOffice-wise?

Although I like it less than MOS and BvS,its pretty clear its a more "fun" movie.That resonates well with audiences,nvm the fact that it drew in a lot of teenagers and other minorities so thats a plus as well.

 

[Greenlite]

So what do you guys think is behind the success of Suicide Squad?

It got approximately the the same reviews as BVS, and worse reviews than MOS. but it's poised to do better than MOS BoxOffice wise. And percent wise it's legs are better than BVS's.

While I understand BVS had the trailer 2 debacle. I think MOS had a fantastic marketing campaign with all three main trailers (especially the third being phenomenal).

Just asking? IMO SS edges out BVS, but both aren't as good as MOS in terms of quality. So why is Suicide Squad being recieved so well BoxOffice-wise?

1. The movie has funky characters to follow - Will Smith and Harley Quinn, and they the leads put up a great performance
2. the support cast are fun (Boomer, Croc), and has HEART (El Diablo, Harley, Will)
3. Big name b.o. draw (Will Smith)
4. diversity in the cast (Jap/Latino/White/Black/Aussie)
5. modern hip soundtrack
6. demo targeted are teens who are on a break
7. female crowd
8. since the movie is about rebels, uses some gangster/rebellious music and attract teens who like rebels and pop/rap etc, they might think critics are old boring fart trying to hurt their beloved rebels therefore the critics' wrath didn't hurt SS's demo crowd.

IMHO

 

[Longshot777]

So what do you guys think is behind the success of Suicide Squad?

It got approximately the the same reviews as BVS, and worse reviews than MOS. but it's poised to do better than MOS BoxOffice wise. And percent wise it's legs are better than BVS's.

While I understand BVS had the trailer 2 debacle. I think MOS had a fantastic marketing campaign with all three main trailers (especially the third being phenomenal).

Just asking? IMO SS edges out BVS, but both aren't as good as MOS in terms of quality. So why is Suicide Squad being recieved so well BoxOffice-wise?

For me, the appearances of Batman and Flash along with mentions of Superman and story continuing from BVS makes up for most of the movie flaws.

Will Smith was also great in it and he has lots of fans that made him the summer movie king in the past.

And Margot Robbie is just so pleasing to the eyes.

All those factors has made this movie a success despite the critics.

 

[OutOfBoose]

Throw in zero competition.

 

[rashad]

It's not SS's fault many of the movies released were not great.

 

[Angel0fDeath]

Ah, the old "zero competition" excuse. If people are interested in a movie, they'll go see it. Doesn't matter what else is in theaters at the time.

 

[harlequinade]

Ah, the old "zero competition" excuse. If people are interested in a movie, they'll go see it. Doesn't matter what else is in theaters at the time.

Not really, not everyone has options, means, time or energy to see everything they want in cinema. The films released lately are really mediocre, mostly.

 

[BH/HHH]

Ah, the old "zero competition" excuse. If people are interested in a movie, they'll go see it. Doesn't matter what else is in theaters at the time.

Yeah it doesn't hold water, if people wanna see something they see it for that reason not because there's no completion. A minorit might but not a majority.