Suicide Squad: General Discussion and Speculation - Part 8

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Remember 30 minutes ago when I joked that Aidan Gillen was spotted on set? People believe it...

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I got more hate on twitter over some folks who thought Ben was on set. Just randoms too. Laawd.
 
Remember 30 minutes ago when I joked that Aidan Gillen was spotted on set? People believe it...

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Which one of you guys is Rene Valdez? :sly:
 
So why are you looking at them if it's unethical?

Looking at photos and taking photos, sharing them and make money out of it are different.

What i find unethical is taking photos without any permission and making money out of it. That part should be illegal in my opinion.

It's just me. Others may not have problem and laws might say it's legal. I just find it morally wrong and even disturbing at some situations.

Anyway, it's off subject.
 
But there is nothing wrong with the laws in the first place. They do way more good than harm. That guy in Portland was caught, they couldn't charge him but everyone knows who he is. That's one example where someone abused the law but what about the thousands of situations where this law has helped catch a criminal. Do you think private business could have street facing surveillance cameras without this protection? What about people photographing police brutality or a riot. I caught a hit and run a couple years ago and the lady driving the car couldn't sue me for taking her image because I was protected. I do work with the RED cameras, and every single time I take it out to grab a shot for work someone is in frame, sometimes hundreds of people. I'm shooting 5K and I can't ask every person their for permission, I wouldn't be able to do my job.

That's what i'm saying as well. You look at positive side, i'm looking at negative. :cwink:

In this case, i think people making money out of WB's work even if laws say it's legal. Even it might be legal, it's morally wrong.

There is no artist (or company) would enjoy their unfinished work shared with public without their permission. And if some 3rd party makes money out of it, i think they should have rights to protect their work.

Even though we might enjoy looking at these pictures, SS is a product and 3rd parties making profit meanwhile may hurt product value. (spoilers or low quality photo etc)
 
That's what i'm saying as well. You look at positive side, i'm looking at negative. :cwink:

In this case, i think people making money out of WB's work even if laws say it's legal. Even it might be legal, it's morally wrong.

There is no artist (or company) would enjoy their unfinished work shared with public without their permission. And if some 3rd party makes money out of it, i think they should have rights to protect their work.

Even though we might enjoy looking at these pictures, SS is a product and 3rd parties making profit meanwhile may hurt product value. (spoilers or low quality photo etc)

I don't even think it's unethical. The law is blind, but I do see where your coming from. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.
 
I don't even think it's unethical. The law is blind, but I do see where your coming from. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree.
It's a complicated issue for sure.
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So I've finally had a chance to go through a lot of these photos.

I don't know if it was the shock of seeing all of his tattoos at once in the official reveal, but seeing him in the context of an actual scene and seeing him in wardrobe, I find myself not being as distracted by the forehead tattoo. It certainly doesn't take away from how pants-****ting terrifying he looks in a few of these photos.

I suppose a Joker that fully recognizes that his brain is "damaged" and loves it enough to mark himself with a self-aware badge of pride has just as much merit as a Joker who thinks there's nothing wrong with himself. Being wrong feels so right, as it were.

This is a character that has unlimited potential as far as future adaptations are concerned. That's partly why I love the character as much as I do. I told myself going into this production that I'd abandon preconceptions and remain open-minded. I need to do a better job at that.
 
It is also interesting as a stark, deliberate subversion of his usual appearance. There is clearly a point to it. Though frustrating, I find this much more intriguing than a Bermejo-style grunged-up Joker.
 
It is also interesting as a stark, deliberate subversion of his usual appearance. There is clearly a point to it. Though frustrating, I find this much more intriguing than a Bermejo-style grunged-up Joker.
I agree.

Regardless of how I feel about forehead stamps and blinged-out teeth, I can't stop looking at him. I imagine such would not be the case if I flat-out hated it.

I'm curious. Let's put it that way.
 
I suppose a Joker that fully recognizes that his brain is "damaged" and loves it enough to mark himself with a self-aware badge of pride has just as much merit as a Joker who thinks there's nothing wrong with himself. Being wrong feels so right, as it were.

It's also quite possible he's poking fun at society's interpretation of him as a damaged person. He may feel that he's reached psychological perfection.
 
Enchantress brings down a plane?
 
It is also interesting as a stark, deliberate subversion of his usual appearance. There is clearly a point to it. Though frustrating, I find this much more intriguing than a Bermejo-style grunged-up Joker.
But what if there is no point to it, other than Ayer thinking it looks cool? What if nothing is explained in any context?

I don't even think I want exposition about his tattoos, either.
 
Also, looks like me and matt47 were right about the "Damaged" tattoo being there after all.

Ha!
 
Well, if the rumors are true about this Joker being more "cerebral," I'm curious if this will even come up in the context of the narrative.

Of course with this character it could go either way. If tattoos tell a person's story, maybe he does have a reason behind it. Or maybe he just did it for the lulz. Who knows?

The character is self aware. As aesthetically ugly as it may be, it's well within the character's bounds to do something like this.
 
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