Supergirl Supergirl General Discussion Thread - - - Part 12

[BH/HHH]

I think every CW DC show would be better if it were 10-13 episode seasons

Agree with this, although I thinj its easily solvable to do 22-23 episode seasons and not have a ton of filler. Make every half season a new big storyline with a new big bad instead of dragging it out over the season.

 

[Kelly]

Agree with this, although I thinj its easily solvable to do 22-23 episode seasons and not have a ton of filler. Make every half season a new big storyline with a new big bad instead of dragging it out over the season.

There is no way that is possible however because they have time slots they must fill....they would need twice the shows to do that, twice the film budgets. They aren't Netflix.....

Now, would the shows be better? Possibly, but the logistics of it are just not reality.

I wish all networks could do that, but the $$$$$$$$$ that Netflix puts out, these networks could just not do that.

 

[BH/HHH]

There is no way that is possible however because they have time slots they must fill....they would need twice the shows to do that, twice the film budgets. They aren't Netflix.....

Now, would the shows be better? Possibly, but the logistics of it are just not reality.

I wish all networks could do that, but the $$$$$$$$$ that Netflix puts out, these networks could just not do that.

Why would they?

You can even take the budget of a filler episode and do something really great still.

It would just mean they'd have to do better with their scripts.

 

[Primal Slayer]

There is no way that is possible however because they have time slots they must fill....they would need twice the shows to do that, twice the film budgets. They aren't Netflix.....

Now, would the shows be better? Possibly, but the logistics of it are just not reality.

I wish all networks could do that, but the $$$$$$$$$ that Netflix puts out, these networks could just not do that.

It sounds like they just want 2 seasonal arcs, 1 for first half and 1 for 2nd half which is totally doable.

 

[flickchick85]

Yeah actually when Veronica Mars moved to the CW one of the mandates the network passed down onto them was to have shorter standalone arcs to make it more accessible to new viewers. Of course, that didn't work out well for that show for a number of reasons, but the point is, it's absolutely something they can do on the CW.

If the rumor about the new storyline of S4 that I posted on the previous page is true, I think that one would actually work best as a shorter arc.

 

[Primal Slayer]

Even Arrow had 2 arcs this season. Yeah they screwed them up royally with lazy writing but they did it.

 

[Kelly]

It sounds like they just want 2 seasonal arcs, 1 for first half and 1 for 2nd half which is totally doable.

I could see that....

 

[SSAV]

So, this "rumor" appears to be just pure speculation based on one of the sides for Season 4, but I like it anyway: http://www.supergirlfans.org/eng/rumor-new-character-for-season-4-of-supergirl-manchester-black/

Basically, they might be doing some variation of "What's So Funny About Truth, Justice and the American Way?" That's a classic Superman story (that was given a decent animated adaptation in Superman vs. The Elite) I wouldn't mind seeing adapted for Supergirl, and it would almost feel like a natural evolution from Reign's brand of justice. And I'm always up for a non-Kryptonian villain.

Spoiler

That is a lot. And.. it almost feels they are going for the same mistakes in S4 with yet another business man, and a possible love interest for Alex who is too much like her and has a lot of issues--and who possibly would rarely interact with Kara. However, I hope they have learned from their mistakes and would not add to them. Also, what exactly happens to Edge?

 

[vantheman77]

Season 3 will be out on DVD and Blu-Ray on September 18. It will have bloopers to correct last season's mistakes. It will also have featurettes on the Comic-Con 2017, Crisis On Earth-X, Reign, and lots of deleted scenes.

 

[Kelly]

The only way to correct last seasons mistakes is to have last season's bloopers on there as well.....

 

[Dr Lee]

i do enjoy some good bloopers....

 

[flickchick85]

The only way to correct last seasons mistakes is to have last season's bloopers on there as well.....

Agreed! If the next blu-ray doesn't have bloopers for both, just stick a fork in it - this show's done.

 

[Kelly]

Agreed! If the next blu-ray doesn't have bloopers for both, just stick a fork in it - this show's done.

Well, I wouldn't say thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat.....

 

[Rorschach2012]

I hope we can see the Green Lantern Corps this season

 

[flickchick85]

I could go for some version of the Red Lantern Kara storyline, tbh.

Also, if this Argo City storyline plays out as expected, it doesn't eliminate the possibility of a proper New Krypton arc later on. I mean, I'm not holding my breath, but this could actually serve as a decent set up for that.

 

[Kelly]

I hope we can see the Green Lantern Corps this season

I could go for some version of the Red Lantern Kara storyline, tbh.

Also, if this Argo City storyline plays out as expected, it doesn't eliminate the possibility of a proper New Krypton arc later on. I mean, I'm not holding my breath, but this could actually serve as a decent set up for that.

Me too.......

 

[vantheman77]

The pics for Make It Reign have come out and it has one of the telling images.

Since iZombie has finished its season premiere, I hope the actress who played young Kara will be back in the 4th season for more flashbacks.

 

[Primal Slayer]

I could go for some version of the Red Lantern Kara storyline, tbh.

Also, if this Argo City storyline plays out as expected, it doesn't eliminate the possibility of a proper New Krypton arc later on. I mean, I'm not holding my breath, but this could actually serve as a decent set up for that.

With how lackluster they started the Argo City storyline I can only imagine how bad the Lantern storyline would work out lol.

 

[DawnWarrior]

Shorter seasons would be nice, but these big networks still have to fill out a set number of weeks. Shorter arcs to make up a larger season would work too; Agents of SHIELD did their best years that way. One thing that might also help would be to sideline the season-long Big Bad for a while, if it's too hard to fill all 23 episodes with them. They could have banished Reign to the Phantom Zone, then spend the next 8 or 9 episodes dealing with some other over-arching menace or doing standalone stories. And then later Reign's allies free her from the Zone and they have their final battle in the finale.

 

[flickchick85]

Yeah, people tend to forget that unlike the cable and streaming outlets, broadcast networks are still totally slaves to their advertisers, and they have a set amount of programming every season that they HAVE to fill. And if they can't fill it with 22 episodes of the same show, they have to greenlight another show to fill those same slots, and that's a lot more money to spend that they don't really have without pulling it from their other shows. It's just not feasible for most of their shows, save for the odd mid-seasoners here and there, to do that. Broadcast networks lack A LOT of the production luxuries cable and streaming outlets enjoy, which is why it's not really fair to hold their content to the same standards.

 

[Flash525]

All of the shows need to do this; either split the seasons in two and have two different villains each year, or have a season start with a villain (episodes 1 - 6), then have a break with minor nusiances (episodes 7 - 16) and then have the main villain(s) back on the scene (episodes 17 - 22/23) to wrap the season up.

This is why The Rogues would have worked perfectly in the Flash had they not been dissolved; we could have had an arc from them each season, and they could have filled in at least six episodes.

 

[Kelly]

With how lackluster they started the Argo City storyline I can only imagine how bad the Lantern storyline would work out lol.

How would you have liked to see them start the Argo City storyline?

 

[flickchick85]

So I don't know if this is accurate or means anything, but apparently someone posted a casting call for a new character on Twitter that also lists the main cast for S4, and there's no [blackout]Chris Wood or Jeremy Jordan[/blackout] on it. [blackout]Mehcad Brooks, David Harewood and Jesse Rath[/blackout] are, though. Guess I won't be getting my hopes up about [blackout]Mehcad leaving for good[/blackout] just yet.

 

[Primal Slayer]

How would you have liked to see them start the Argo City storyline?

Definitely not with them just coming up upon out of nowhere with no real umph.

If it had to be part of the Reign story arc (I wouldve saved it for later in the series) then I probably would've moved back the whole Ft.Rozz storyline, expanded it to 2 episodes, have it prelude to Argo. Drop hints that a city might have survived. Kara goes back to Earth, her and Reign have an intense battle, Reign is brought down temporarily with the help of Lena and Clark.

They learn that there is some substance out there that could help bring Reign down once and fall so they (Kara/Clark/Mon, or maybe Clark stays behind on Earth just in case Reign breaks free) set out to track it down. They come across some of Brainiacs dispatched robots that helps lead them to the bottled city of Argo (end episode).

If Clark goes with them, they would infiltrate Argo City, get what they need, but they were only able to get back with some special gadget or something which is why they couldnt just take everyone with them. They would end up overrun with Brainiac bots and Clark would stay back to hold them off while Kara/Mon-El get to the ship and return home.

We'd have Clark out of the picture, set up a greater storyline of finding him and Argo City in Season 4 (or he'd just fall from the sky badly beaten and exhausted at the end of the finale, having escaped Brainiacs bots but encountering the new big bad and is comatose in Metroplis)

 

[flickchick85]

I don't need all that - I just needed them to spend more time on Kara processing this huge game-changing development in her life, and not making it one of 3 separate subplots in an episode. It was seriously underplayed in the episode and had very little dramatic oomph, imo.

In other news, S4's premiere date is supposedly October 14th (my birthday!), so I guess Melissa's Broadway stint won't be delaying the season afterall.