Supergirl Supergirl General Discussion Thread - - - Part 12

[vantheman77]

There was a bts pic of a new hero when they started shooting the 5th season. Looking at Jesse's sister, it's her as female Brainiac 5.

Lena punching Supergirl is either a VR simulation or Lena on Harun-El. I'm glad they went into this in the beginning of the 5th season rather than drag it out like last season.

I hope the new Andrea Rojas aka Acrata is better than the one from Smallville. I think Supergirl may expand her team with Andrea.

As for this new reporter William Dey, I hope it's not another Snapper Carr.

I think Supergirl will battle either Lex or Leviathan for Lena's soul.

 

[flickchick85]

As for this new reporter William Dey, I hope it's not another Snapper Carr.

I just hope he's not a love interest for Kara. Thanks to Mon-El, I find the suggestion that they'll "butt heads" to be a bit triggering, lol. On the old writing staff, that was apparently the definition of ~romance~.

 

[vantheman77]

Looking forward to what new writer Jay Faerber brings for the 5th Season.

 

[Thome216]

I just hope he's not a love interest for Kara. Thanks to Mon-El, I find the suggestion that they'll "butt heads" to be a bit triggering, lol. On the old writing staff, that was apparently the definition of ~romance~.

I'm a bit hesitant about that also. But, it could be handled alright. We'll have to see the on-screen chemistry. Though, personally, I was fine with Karamel...

The trailer looked good. Of course, they use a lot of previous season clips, but near the end was the important part. As Vantheman77 said, if that was real, then Lena may be hyped up on Harun-El, though VR is a possibility.

I wonder if they might follow the comics, where Lena turns herself into Ultrawoman..?

She was talking about the evils of emotion and how she is preferring technology more and more. Also 'changing the fabric of what it means to be human...'

 

[flickchick85]

I'm a bit hesitant about that also. But, it could be handled alright. We'll have to see the on-screen chemistry. Though, personally, I was fine with Karamel...

The trailer looked good. Of course, they use a lot of previous season clips, but near the end was the important part. As Vantheman77 said, if that was real, then Lena may be hyped up on Harun-El, though VR is a possibility.

I wonder if they might follow the comics, where Lena turns herself into Ultrawoman..?

She was talking about the evils of emotion and how she is preferring technology more and more. Also 'changing the fabric of what it means to be human...'

What run is that storyline from? I'd be interested in reading that.

 

[Thome216]

What run is that storyline from? I'd be interested in reading that.

Who Killed Superwoman.

Man, can't wait to see the reactions from Barry, Oliver, Kate and the others when she shows up dressed like that!

 

[flickchick85]

Who Killed Superwoman.

Awesome, thanks!

 

[vantheman77]

Think they might change the show title from Supergirl to Superwoman?

 

[Primal Slayer]

Think they might change the show title from Supergirl to Superwoman?

no.

 

[Kelly]

Why would they, that is a completely different DC character....

 

[Kelly]

I do not think there is going to be any change to the character of Supergirl, I think she will continue to be what we have seen throughout this series, albeit more confident with each season as any person living her life would hope to grow.

 

[Thome216]

It does seem weird to still be calling her Supergirl, despite Cat Grant's strident defense on the matter.
Supergirl was conceptualized as a teen, right, so it does seem odd to be calling a thirty year old woman, girl - especially with her new, mature look. High school Kara would be the best to use the name Supergirl, but this is how it was set up by CBS.
Coming up five years down the road, it is a little late to change now, though I don't think there is anything saying that they cannot morph her title into Superwoman. There have been several iterations of super women using the moniker, so it is not set in stone.

...not that I think they would do that.

 

[Primal Slayer]

It does seem weird to still be calling her Supergirl, despite Cat Grant's strident defense on the matter.
Supergirl was conceptualized as a teen, right, so it does seem odd to be calling a thirty year old woman, girl - especially with her new, mature look. High school Kara would be the best to use the name Supergirl, but this is how it was set up by CBS.
Coming up five years down the road, it is a little late to change now, though I don't think there is anything saying that they cannot morph her title into Superwoman. There have been several iterations of super women using the moniker, so it is not set in stone.

...not that I think they would do that.

The media and people are used to the name Supergirl, changing their interpretation of her would be tough (in universe)

 

[Iceman]

Think they might change the show title from Supergirl to Superwoman?

They could do that in a sequel after ending Supergirl with the song “Girl, you’ll be a woman soon”. Then she could have a sex change at the end of Superwoman leading up to the 3rd film, “Superman”. At the end of Superman, he is thrown into the fountain of youth and comes out as, you guessed it, ”Superboy”. A 4 film project.

 

[Thome216]

They could do that in a sequel after ending Supergirl with the song “Girl, you’ll be a woman soon”. Then she could have a sex change at the end of Superwoman leading up to the 3rd film, “Superman”. At the end of Superman, he is thrown into the fountain of youth and comes out as, you guessed it, ”Superboy”. A 4 film project.

I'd watch that!

 

[Thome216]

The media and people are used to the name Supergirl, changing their interpretation of her would be tough (in universe)

All too true. Name recognition and all.

 

[flickchick85]

This is weird discussion, lol. The show is called Supergirl, and the title character will continue to be Supergirl until it ends.

 

[Dark Raven]

They could do that in a sequel after ending Supergirl with the song “Girl, you’ll be a woman soon”. Then she could have a sex change at the end of Superwoman leading up to the 3rd film, “Superman”. At the end of Superman, he is thrown into the fountain of youth and comes out as, you guessed it, ”Superboy”. A 4 film project.

That sounds like it would be a super dog of a movie.

 

[Kelly]

I'm not understanding needing to change the name of the character....by this time in the comics we should be calling her Supergrandma...

She is Supergirl...and of course the fact that there is already another DC character named Superwoman.

Same with Batgirl and Batwoman.

 

[Dr.]

I'm not understanding needing to change the name of the character....by this time in the comics we should be calling her Supergrandma...

Typically, though, comic book characters don’t age. And/or they’re perpetually rebooted. (Huey, Dewey and Louis were Donald Duck’s young nephews in the late 1930s. And some 80 years later, they’re still Donald Duck’s young nephews. )

In most iterations of Supergirl, Kara (or Linda) Danvers is a teenaged high school or college student. But the TV version begins after this point; Kara is 24 and at her first big job. And the question is whether a protagonist who’s grown and matured after 5 years (and beyond?) can still plausibly maintain the original “girl” moniker.

It’s rare, but some TV shows have changed their title. Moreover, this wouldn’t be like Valerie becoming The Hogan Family because the lead actor left the series. A hypothetical Supergirl-to-Superwoman transition would still be about the same character: Kara Zor-El as played by Melissa Benoist.

But… notwithstanding that a name change would be conceptually interesting (and bold?), I highly doubt it’ll happen. And since the series only has 2 or 3 seasons left, they can probably make “girl” work to the finish line.

 

[DillySuperDilly]

Superwoman is another character altogether not named Kara Zor-El

Superwoman - Wikipedia

 

[Dark Raven]

Typically, though, comic book characters don’t age. And/or they’re perpetually rebooted. (Huey, Dewey and Louis were Donald Duck’s young nephews in the late 1930s. And some 80 years later, they’re still Donald Duck’s young nephews. )

In most iterations of Supergirl, Kara (or Linda) Danvers is a teenaged high school or college student. But the TV version begins after this point; Kara is 24 and at her first big job. And the question is whether a protagonist who’s grown and matured after 5 years (and beyond?) can still plausibly maintain the original “girl” moniker.

It’s rare, but some TV shows have changed their title. Moreover, this wouldn’t be like Valerie becoming The Hogan Family because the lead actor left the series. A hypothetical Supergirl-to-Superwoman transition would still be about the same character: Kara Zor-El as played by Melissa Benoist.

But… notwithstanding that a name change would be conceptually interesting (and bold?), I highly doubt it’ll happen. And since the series only has 2 or 3 seasons left, they can probably make “girl” work to the finish line.

She can still use "girl" rather than "woman", because whether or not she has grown and matured more than 5 years is irrelevant. "Girl" doesn't have to be just used as an indicator of young age or immaturity.

Women use the word "girl" all the time, whatever their age. The 2003 British comedy "Calendar Girls" starring Helen Mirren was about a group of middle-aged women who produced a calendar for charity. Lots of old women even sometimes refer to themselves as "girls" - eg "I'm an old girl."

"Bad Girls" is the name of a British TV series about inmates at a women's prison, but also used for the name of other films involving women.

Cyndi Lauper's song "Girls just wanna have fun" was not about little girls or teenagers wanting to have fun. Neither was Aqua's "Barbie Girl" nor Madonna's "Material Girl". Nor are most of the songs with women referring to themselves as "girls".

"Girl" doesn't just have to be the female equivalent of "boy". It can also be the female equivalent of "guy", as in "girls and guys" - an informal way of referring to a woman whatever their age. And that's how all these examples I mentioned above are using it. And that's how Supergirl can still use it.

 

[Dr.]

She can still use "girl" rather than "woman", because whether or not she has grown and matured more than 5 years is irrelevant. "Girl" doesn't have to be just used as an indicator of young age or immaturity.

Women use the word "girl" all the time, whatever their age. The 2003 British comedy "Calendar Girls" starring Helen Mirren was about a group of middle-aged women who produced a calendar for charity. Lots of old women even sometimes refer to themselves as "girls" - eg "I'm an old girl." ...

Oh, I get all that. Indeed, I’ve rationalized the “Supergirl” name using the same arguments. I’m just saying that a transition to “Superwoman” could also be rationalized.

 

[Dr.]

Superwoman is another character altogether not named Kara Zor-El

Superwoman - Wikipedia

But it seems most versions of “Superwoman” in that Wiki article have been transitory (e.g., Lois Lane temporarily gains super powers) or they’re figures from alternative Earths. IOW, within the main continuity, Supergirl and Superwoman don’t typically exist side by side. In any case, the TV show can - and has - created its own rules and mythology. So it could just decide, on its own accord, to change Kara’s public name.

 

[Kelly]

Oh, I get all that. Indeed, I’ve rationalized the “Supergirl” name using the same arguments. I’m just saying that a transition to “Superwoman” could also be rationalized.

I don't think it could, there is ALREADY a DC character of that name. The same with Batgirl, she can never be called Batwoman because, there is already a DC character named Batwoman. Invisible Girl was able to move on to Invisible Woman because there was not a Marvel character named the Invisible Woman, therefore it could be used without conflict.