Superman Returns Superman's Posey Talks Kitty

[Nightwing1977]

I would have been thrilled if she had been more like 'Mercy' from TAS.

It would have made Lex seem more powerful.

More powerful?!? Having a bodyguard (especially a girl when you're a guy) make one such a wimp. Especially with Lex. Glad there's no Mercy. Lex is smart to not need a girl for a bodyguard.

And I still think many of you guys who are hating the movie still not getting it. What you read don't mean it what you think. You can't judge something entirely 100% until you see the frickin' movie!! God, can't many of you guys stop whining? It not looking good on your resume.

 

[NateGray]

More powerful?!? Having a bodyguard (especially a girl when you're a guy) make one such a wimp. Especially with Lex. Glad there's no Mercy. Lex is smart to not need a girl for a bodyguard.

And I still think many of you guys who are hating the movie still not getting it. What you read don't mean it what you think. You can't judge something entirely 100% until you see the frickin' movie!! God, can't many of you guys stop whining? It not looking good on your resume.

While I do agree one cannot judge something 100% before you see it; One should also see the signs on the wall which might make some folks nervous about if it will be a good movie or not.

And really whining about whiners is somehow ok to you? but someone complaining/whining is not ok with you?

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I hope this is a joke! The news on this movie just gets worse and worse. That ridiculous relationship was easily one of the worse things in the first film...and this sounds like the exact same thing. G-d help this project.

BTW Posey was awful in Blade 3, just awful.

 

[Pickle-El]

I hope this is a joke! The news on this movie just gets worse and worse. That ridiculous relationship was easily one of the worse things in the first film...and this sounds like the exact same thing. G-d help this project.

BTW Posey was awful in Blade 3, just awful.

Whatever....

OH yeah

 

[Scooter]

Whatever....

Whatever...

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Whatever....

OH yeah

Huh?

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

Posey said. "He wants to destroy the world, and she doesn't want to," she said. "She [has] much more conscience about the world around her. She is into pretty things and money, but Kitty has a heart. And, yes, she has a change of heart. ... She is torn between materialism and love, but Kitty kind of wakes up. It's cool."

KK won't be evil llike Lex, she'll have a change of heart between materialism and love, but she'll wake up in the end. Some how I don't think she's going to wake up to choose materialism. Oh no, she won't be saving Superman at all.

Showcase, I respect your level headed approach to this project, but I think you are letting the fan take over here. I want a great Superman movie too, but just because there is going to be a new movie in june doesn't automatically mean it's going to be great.

How am I so sure it's not going to be you ask yourself? It's not going to be a GREAT movie because it's going to be a complete rehash of StM. Sure some of the surface details have been updated, but this movie will share all the same mechanics and twists that made StM the movie it was.

KK is going to be E. Teschmacher, Luthor will be Hackman, Kumar will be Otis, and Routh will be Reeve. Sure their portrayals will be darker, grittier versions to fit in the the mean times of the 21st century, but not enough to distinguish this movie from anything other than a rehash of StM, because the WB and Singer are too chicken**** to create origional content.

CK will arrive from Krypton, be nurtured by Ma Kent, move to Metropolis, reunite with DP staff, reveal Superman presence to the world through super-feat, Luthor will be arroused from his hole in the ground, plot and scheme revenge, travel to FoS to get the means to destroy Superman, CK-LL-RP-J? love square weirdness will insue(your only source of innovation, yay) Luthor aquires means to enact plan, and does so, Superman attemps to intercede, gets depowered from kryptonite, KK has a change of heart, Superman repowered in time to save the day.

Oh wait, I forgot in this one Lex Luthor is raising a continent instead of sinking one, oh of course, how short sighted of me to not recognize such vibrant innovation.

SR is a vague remake, and as Bruce Lee said, nobody ever aquires a taste for diluted wine, means that only the basest of simpletons are going to be wowed by amazing special effects and walk out thinking this was a great movie.

Of course I could be wrong, I'll be here on July 1 to admit I was wrong if I am, but I ****ing doubt it. Most likely the thread is going to be titled I told you so...

I love this post! Here's hoping I eat my words too. I'm not a huge Superman fan, but for some reason I care about how this movie is going to turn out. I doesn't look good. But, like StarWars ep 1,2 and 3, it's probably going to make a s**t load of money because it's Superman.

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

I think it is funny before Singer got involved most people were saying thatr S:TM and S:II were the best comic book/superhero movies ever..when Singer said he was using them as Vague History it changed to..those movies were terrible campy movies and shouldn't be connected to SR. Flip Flop much people?

I know I never said anything of the sort.

 

[Pickle-El]

Bravo Oldguy. What sickens me is seeing fans make excuses such as "Well maybe she is the Mercy from TAS!" even though she is described exactly as E.T.. It as if they are trying to justify everything Singer does.

This movie is NOT about Kitty. I don't hear Spiderman fans complaining about that receptionist, or that anorexic girl.


Did they have a great impact on the storyline? Who's to say Kitty isn't part of Lex's public 'face'? Or maybe a means for him to have a great deal of wealth? As I recall in the Premiere article

Spoiler

Kitty straight slaps the **** outta Le x on the Yacht after he risks her life just to distract Superman with the runaway green mustang

If she is Miss Techmacher V2, it's just too bad she isn't has hot as her I suppose. Otherwise, I find it highly suspicious how people now continue to bash S:TM like it isn't THE most revered of comic book movies. That slapstick comedy is one of the reasons it is so universally loved. It took itself seriously, but not too seriously. (Batman and X-Men come to mind)

Ever think that some people just wanna watch a fantastic tale of a great character? Kitty isn't the star of this movie...Clark/Superman is.

Ah, damn all you 'real' Superman fans. I feel almost ashamed to admit I fell in love with Superman because of S:TM.

 

[Pickle-El]

And you don't know it isn't - at least the "haters" have something to base their assumptions on.

Yet, you don't see them listing the difference either do you? They harp the same notes all day.....that song got boring in mid-05.

 

[Octoberist]

I liked Superman: The Movie and I'm supporting Singer...I just didn't like some of aspects of Luthor, Otis, or Ms. T.

I don't know if would work if Singer (and he won't) did a literal tranlation of those portrayals to 'Returns'.

In numerous times, it's been said that Spacey's Luthor will be darker and more serious, with a touch of witty humor.

Maybe there's more to Kitty than Parker had to say about her character. Maybe we're reading too much into it. I don't know.

I just know that an Otis character is not in this flick: Fine for 1978 but not now. He's too..Disney-esq: The bumbling fool.

 

[Pickle-El]

I know I never said anything of the sort.

Perhaps not you specifically, but they have come out of the woodwork...and now S:TM is like a step-child.

 

[Octoberist]

That's fanboy-ism, Pickle. you should know that by now:

"There's no middleground in Fanboyism. One second they can be your great supporters. The next, your great enemies" Einstein, 1934

 

[MatchesMalone]

This movie is NOT about Kitty. I don't hear Spiderman fans complaining about that receptionist, or that anorexic girl.


Did they have a great impact on the storyline? Who's to say Kitty isn't part of Lex's public 'face'? Or maybe a means for him to have a great deal of wealth? As I recall in the Premiere article

Spoiler

Kitty straight slaps the **** outta Le x on the Yacht after he risks her life just to distract Superman with the runaway green mustang

If she is Miss Techmacher V2, it's just too bad she isn't has hot as her I suppose. Otherwise, I find it highly suspicious how people now continue to bash S:TM like it isn't THE most revered of comic book movies. That slapstick comedy is one of the reasons it is so universally loved. It took itself seriously, but not too seriously. (Batman and X-Men come to mind)

Ever think that some people just wanna watch a fantastic tale of a great character? Kitty isn't the star of this movie...Clark/Superman is.

Ah, damn all you 'real' Superman fans. I feel almost ashamed to admit I fell in love with Superman because of S:TM.

Agreed 100%. Oldguy went crazy comparing Routh to Reeve, and now he's spouting off about how it shouldn't be like the old movies.

There's just no pleasing hypocritical pessimists. Thank God.

 

[MatchesMalone]

Perhaps not you specifically, but they have come out of the woodwork...and now S:TM is like a step-child.

STM will never be a step-child. You know why? Because it is loved by way more people over the world than a few teenage whiners on an internet forum.

 

[dark_b]

wowo owowowo ow.
lets make something clear. from what we heard kitty will be like terschmacher.
so dont ceom here with some bull****.

if you want to defend this movie just because you are scared that it will be bad than god help you. some people didnt like the girlfriend from lex in S:TM. some people didnt like the wig in S:TM. but from what we hear everything will be in SR.

i dont care if SR is a sequel to S:TM .there was no reason to include these wigs in SR. because it is a sequel? please. and now kitty. they dont like it ok? so dont talk with them like they are idiots.

and everything looks to me like a homage.

 

[MatchesMalone]

wowo owowowo ow.
lets make something clear. from what we heard kitty will be like terschmacher.
so dont ceom here with some bull****.

if you want to defend this movie just because you are scared that it will be bad than god help you. some people didnt like the girlfriend from lex in S:TM. some people didnt like the wig in S:TM. but from what we hear everything will be in SR.

i dont care if SR is a sequel to S:TM .there was no reason to include these wigs in SR. because it is a sequel? please. and now kitty. they dont like it ok? so dont talk with them like they are idiots.

and everything looks to me like a homage.

I'll talk any way I damn well please, as long I am not abusive or offensive according to the ToS of this forum.

If you don't like the choices, I couldn't care less. I was making a comment about the hypocrisy of some members of the board. You don't want a remake, but you wanted Reeve's costume. You don't want a remake, but you want Williams' theme.

Singer chose to set his new movie in the same universe as the previous movies. Just as Bond will always have a new hot girl to fight/love, Singer is going from Lex's previous characterizations and adding to that. If you don't like it, that's too bad.

It's exactly what I was hoping for.

 

[Nightwing1977]

While I do agree one cannot judge something 100% before you see it; One should also see the signs on the wall which might make some folks nervous about if it will be a good movie or not.

Well, we don't know how it will be. Trust me, I think Singer will be smart enough to not make it campy, despite some thinking it is from what they read. What sound like campy don't mean it will.

And really whining about whiners is somehow ok to you? but someone complaining/whining is not ok with you?

LMAO! Me whining about whiners? More like getting annoyed by whiners. There a big different between those 2. Beside, many whiners post the same crap over & over. They're just not thinking clearly & not keep an open mind like some are.

 

[Oldguy]

But you already got that, 20 years ago. I want a turn!

LMFAO!!

No ****, eh? Give us something good to eat Singer, ya mook!

 

[SuperDaniel]

Listen, i loved Superman the movie. Its one of my favorites movies of all time. Heck. I even think that Lex Luthor worked in that movie. But its not the Luthor i like or prefer. I really wanted to see the corporate Luthor thats loved by all. That would be something different than the rest of the villains. Superman comes back to Earth to see that Lex Luthor is people`s hero now. He used the kryptonian technollogy in the fortress to make the Lexcorp and help people building their homes after the destruction of metropolis in Superman II. This would be nice to see, not some Gangster Luthor who wants to destroy the world with keyptonian technollogy. Thats just my opinion.

 

[Oldguy]

Damn you Scooter...

Sorry Sverd I gotta agree Matches' sig is ****in hilarious

 

[MatchesMalone]

LMFAO!!

No ****, eh? Give us something good to eat Singer, ya mook!

Oh, please. Post-Crisis crapped all over Superman's good name, giving us Peter Parker who flies, the most ridiculous crossover exploitative "event" ever (DoS), and an electric guy.

I'll take super-violin-playing and planet juggling over that angsty crap any day.

You all have Smallville.

 

[SuperDaniel]

I agree that there a lot of bad stories in post-crisis. But its much better than that crap that silver age was.

 

[Oldguy]

This movie is NOT about Kitty. I don't hear Spiderman fans complaining about that receptionist, or that anorexic girl.


Did they have a great impact on the storyline? Who's to say Kitty isn't part of Lex's public 'face'? Or maybe a means for him to have a great deal of wealth? As I recall in the Premiere article

Spoiler

Kitty straight slaps the **** outta Le x on the Yacht after he risks her life just to distract Superman with the runaway green mustang

If she is Miss Techmacher V2, it's just too bad she isn't has hot as her I suppose. Otherwise, I find it highly suspicious how people now continue to bash S:TM like it isn't THE most revered of comic book movies. That slapstick comedy is one of the reasons it is so universally loved. It took itself seriously, but not too seriously. (Batman and X-Men come to mind)

Ever think that some people just wanna watch a fantastic tale of a great character? Kitty isn't the star of this movie...Clark/Superman is.

Ah, damn all you 'real' Superman fans. I feel almost ashamed to admit I fell in love with Superman because of S:TM.

Pickel please understand it's not that we're bashing StM at all. At least I'm not. If I may be so bold to speak for others to say that we don't want a rehash of StM because he disliked StM, it's just that we want an origional take on Superman, not a remake of a movie we've all seen before.

 

[MatchesMalone]

I agree that there a lot of bad stories in post-crisis. But its much better than that crap that silver age was.

The difference is, even the bad stories in the 50's and 60's were still fun to read. The post-crisis stuff was either a) boring, b) boring, c) ridiculous, repetitive, and boring.

Don't get me wrong, there were some stories I liked in post-crisis. They were few and far between, but they were good stories.

You can't really fault the writers in the 50's and 60's. ALL comics were suffering immensely from the Wertham controversy and comics nearly died out. Imagine what sophisticated writing could bring to the table when they weren't constricted by the stupid crap made canon in post-crisis.

There's a reason most of the best-selling Superman books are Elseworlds tales.