The Amazing Spider-Man 2 The Amazing Spider-Man 2 General Discussion - - Part 86

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That suit :ilv:

Indeed.

I also love that suit, as well as the shot of him firing webbing in multiple directions.

As much as I liked CW and Holland's appearance, it still bugs me that we got two distinctly different Spidey stories from Sony, but no definite ending for either series. :cmad:
 
That's like saying a punch to the face is better than a kick to the nuts. Yes, that is true, but they still both suck ass. :o
 
I don't understand the bad reviews for it. Nothing truly amazing but it felt more comic bookish than the other SM movies.

Electro wzs interesting in his fan exessive attitude and well put in the tone nd theme of the films, he can't let go and is a collector where the little kid with the wind turbine can let go (wind turbine-clock of time-death, get it?) and his more about doing like his hero and being like him than just owning figurines and stuff.

The plot is nothing spectacular but allow good emotion with the repetitive planes and their symbol (that's why they showed the scene with the parent in the begininning).

It even display the theme of clear energy and link it with the power of accpeting death and letting go. Isn't that nice.

Spidey end up being bring "home" by the kid whom he fixed his wind turbine and walk home earlier in the movie, inner child. The movie has it's depth, Spidey facing the mechanical Rihno in the end, like the clock wich he end up in, great fight by the wzy.

The fact that he put time on hold when he is on the bridge and later saving the planes from crashing (parents death trauma) give a real senitment of doom and invetabilty of time, ending with the clock catching back time being stole. Fate. Wich was a nice contradiction with the more fun tone of the movie and Spidey confidence, twisted emotion are great.

Overall fun movie with a little too much of teen drama but hey it's jusified since the end, and the movie is true to Spidey core, the little boy with the wind turbine who brings you home. Beautifull message, clean energy
 
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Electro was silly character who just act like comedy loser. Goblin was worse because he get rushed and ruin story the way they make Harry first Green Goblin. Death of Gwen ruined. Rhino worse than Goblin and Electro. Parents plot story so boring. Movie so bad. Good that it was last one of franchise. Couldn't take any more lol.
 
Electro was intended as such, he represent the fan who lost the true nature of super hero. He 's getting obsessed because he lacks attention and will end over confident because he was allowed great power. More precisly energy, wich is the theme of this movie.

At the opposite of Electro you have a child who built a wind turbine, a clean power source, and he wants too be like his hero not be admire by him. The movie is about fining that inner child back and has Spidey tell him in the end "it's good to be home". The child brought him home.

Goblin fit the theme of the story as well, both Peter, Gwen and Harry are possessed by phantom of the past. Peter and his parent. Gwen and her dad wich litterally come back like a ghost. Harry by the malediction of his father wich he canno't control. He's out time. Times keep coming back, Peter find back a video of his father, he and Gwen have to save two planes from crashing (if you didn't make the link his parent died in a plane and Gwen was supposed to leave by a plane, it symbolize change).

Youps other theme of the movie: time. They litterally end up fighting in a clockwork. Harry was greatly brought in that light since he represent Peter fear of runinng out of time.

Running out of time. Energy source. Death. Childhood. Growing up. And they tie it all pretty well, simply but well.

The child with the wind turbine represent clean change, because he is true to his heart, he can let go, like the wind. It is the opposite of Harry who brought Peter in a big mechanical clockwork. Wind turbine vs clockwork. That's actually a pretty powerfull symbol.

Rhino at the end enhanced this cyclical theme of time passing, as we saw Peter mourning Gwen's death and the season passing. And if you didn't noticed he is a bad guy and also in a mechanical/machine suit.

But keep on bashing what you don't understand with no constructiv criticizm.
 
ApophènX;33838143 said:
where the little kid with the wind turbine can let go (wind turbine-clock of time-death, get it?) and his more about doing like his hero and being like him than just owning figurines and stuff.

ApophènX;33838143 said:
Spidey end up being bring "home" by the kid whom he fixed his wind turbine and walk home earlier in the movie, inner child.

ApophènX;33838143 said:
Overall fun movie with a little too much of teen drama but hey it's jusified since the end, and the movie is true to Spidey core, the little boy with the wind turbine who brings you home.

ApophènX;33839267 said:
At the opposite of Electro you have a child who built a wind turbine, a clean power source, and he wants too be like his hero not be admire by him. The movie is about fining that inner child back and has Spidey tell him in the end "it's good to be home". The child brought him home.

ApophènX;33839267 said:
The child with the wind turbine represent clean change, because he is true to his heart, he can let go, like the wind. It is the opposite of Harry who brought Peter in a big mechanical clockwork. Wind turbine vs clockwork. That's actually a pretty powerfull symbol.

Were you the child with the wind turbine? :huh:
 
Were you the child with the wind turbine? :huh:

I hope we all are. When Spidey is making rescue he save a child that is being bullied, just like him younger, and who is a science lover, just like him younger, and who built a small wind turbine.

Spidey say is gonna walk him Home.

After Gwen's death and as the season pass we have a shot of the wind turbine in front of the window.

The same child put a costume and face Rhino, Spidey appear and say "nothing like Home". So this time it is the child who walked him Home. The child is the opposite of Electro, he is not obsessed by his hero and doesn't wznt to be admire by him, he just want him to be there. If is not he will try himself. Electro is getting power and don't do good with it, the child built a clean energy source.

They linked the inner child with the problem of clean energy , destiny and time who they embody in the opposite of the wind turbine: a big clockwork, not working with the wind but by many complex mechanic.

Pretty sweet ideas imo, more importantly that this child was an idea of Andrew Garfield and it just show how much he love Spider Man and what it means to him. Grewing with Spidey as my favourite hero i totally realte
 
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Trust me who don't want my brain pattern

This is basic analysis of the parralels in the film to understand the connextion and the story. They didn't built it out of nothing, creation requires association of similar elements.

It was the same in SM2 with the flower and hand symbol. It serves to complement the character and global psyche.

Maybe i'm not explaing it right but english isn't my main language so sorry i would to be more precise and devellop in cleverer manner

But what how did you understand the movie then? because the child and the wind turbine are key to the emptional journey and the message of the film
 
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1. Okay, did anyone else absolutely love the web swinging in the first scene. It was so absolutely perfect! Everytime I go on youtube I look up those first 10 minutes scene. It was fantastic.

2. Will this thread ever be merged with the ASM thread? I'm thinking they should have merged it into a general series thread by now.
 
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Nontheless wonder seem pretty absent from youre shady glasses doc

I have nothing to wonder about. I know this movie so bad. I not need to make up stories about turbine kid to make it sound good lol.
 
I have nothing to wonder about. I know this movie so bad. I not need to make up stories about turbine kid to make it sound good lol.

You know they did the same in SM2, scientifc and poetry. Otoo and his wife. Otto can't understand poetry but one the other hand he wants to have a sun in the palm of his hand. His wife show up with flower, she is his flower.

Otto is a tragic man and try to recreate this flower and a sun in it. That's beautifull and a lesson of letting go. How Otto die? drowning with his dream in the river, him inside the frape of a metal piece that looks like a flower, he got back to his wife. Poetry.

And i didn't make up the little kid is in the movie, he's buildin small size wind turbine. And there is a sub-text about clean energu in the movie, but laybe you didn't payed attention to it.

You too make up your own view of the film, it's all matter of perspectiv.
 
Does anyone understand what Apophenx is even talking about lol? Flowers and sun. Is that what you see when you smoke a doobie lol.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6jKqZbiHQo

I'm speaking about this and i don't smoke doobie, though that's a nice word

Repetivily in the movie Otto tell he is in control, of his tentacle and of his science. But he is not, wanting to have the sun on the palm of his hand is a symbol of wanting to control the spark of life.

The "sun" he created will end up in a flower. Wich both represent is wife and a soft hand. It's a beautifull take on science and poetey, the science of the unknown, death is the unknown, to let go. As an act of redemption that's what he does and end up in the flower, as the sun (because if you didn't notice, flowers have big yellow stuff in the middle of it and often feed on sun power).

You have the pic of the guy and you didn't understood the character
 
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That Doc Ock death scene. No flowers there lol.

You make up silly stories about flowers that not even in movie and you say I not understand the character. lol you only one who not understand that why you have to make up silly stories about turbine child and flowers.

Give up doobies. They making you see flowers when you watch Spider-man 2 lol.
 
The first time her wife shows up she have a freakin ton of flowers in her hand. This is call conveying meaning through images, it's called cinema.
 
First time his wife show up she serving tea and cake to Peter and Otto lol. You think of alternate 2.1 cut where she have a different introduction that Sam Raimi not use so all your flowers stories still not valid lol.
 
First time his wife show up she serving tea and cake to Peter and Otto lol. You think of alternate 2.1 cut where she have a different introduction that Sam Raimi not use so all your flowers stories still not valid lol.

In that very scene there is still flowers in the backround. The man is building a giant flower to control the sun, end sup having big flowers arm to his body and ends up drowning in a river inside the frame of a flower (yes i make it sound as corny as possible my dear friend doobie).

Otto is a scientist, he wants to control things, he want to have the sun in the palm of his hand. He was trying to recreate the magic of life too much and this end up with him not controlling and not being able to stop in time. when he will finally let go of his will to control he will drown himself and have the sun inside the flower.

Flower-fusion creator-hand, the fusion reactor represent his hand in a mechanical wzy, he extended by science is body to control the universe around him, but it's still not enough. And he fails bcause he try to control things.

He will finally be hold within the flower/hand with the sun. Enhancing the death metaphor with setting sun. They made a strikin metaphor, it's really sub text though and kinda of hidden i'm gonna stop explaining here if you don't get it you don't i hope if you rewatch the movie and try to see it that way you'll have a new possible interpretztion of it.

Moon to doobie this is over.
 
lol just because flowers in background not mean anything significant. Flowers in lots of scenes in movie. Peter bring flowers to MJ at play, it not a symbol of anything in story.

Flowers have no meaning in Dr Octopus story. Put doobie out in ashtray next time you watch Spider-man 2 lol.
 
1. Okay, did anyone else absolutely love the web swinging in the first scene. It was so absolutely perfect! Everytime I go on youtube I look up those first 10 minutes scene. It was fantastic.

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There's no doubt that the web-slinging and many of the body movements were very polished in TASM2.
 
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