The Amazing Spider-Man 2 The Amazing Spider-Man 2 General Discussion - - Part 86

[Erzengel]

I don't feel bad for Pascal. She had 2 chances with the TASM series and even she knew the second one was not up to snuff.

Of course, what I do feel bad is that her Amazon orders were also made public and now I know that one is capable of dyeing their nether regions.

 

[Daltonio]

Of course, what I do feel bad is that her Amazon orders were also made public and now I know that one is capable of dyeing their nether regions.

wait what

 

[I Am The Knight]

Wuuut.

 

[Erzengel]

You guys are right.

I shouldn't be the only one on SHH with this knowledge.

http://jezebel.com/this-is-amazing-amy-pascals-cheap-crotch-intensive-bea-1698863025

Brown Betty would be such a great username.

 

[Hellion]

Erz...you just gave me daydreams and nightmares...I'll never un-dream...

 

[Daltonio]

I.... uhhhh.... Wow.

 

[DX]

............

 

[titansupes]

The only thing we should be taking from that is that Clooney's email address is ****ing amazing.

 

[Lantern Venom]

Bravo to her... she literally hit the nail (or nails) on the head regarding the problems with this movie.

It was like a runaway train she could no longer stop at that point. She even admitted to having the wrong director and cast.

If she really wanted change, then she reached out to the wrong person. Most of these reasons mentioned could easily be applied to Spider-man 3:

All of thAt
Uneven
skitzo tone
electro lame
everybody too dour
Too much fashion and Clothing awarness for this kind of movie
Not fun

crying
Repetitive
Long
doesn’t ever hiT the center bullseye for a long enough time
Weird disjointed
No one single great set piece because action is just big and not story telling
Not funny at all

prob if I’m really really honest wring director and wrong casting

So she thought the guy who gave us the "Skitzo" (that would be "Schizo", so she can't even spell slang correctly) tone of the oft-weeping Peter dancing in multiple scenes, due to an underdeveloped glob of alien that Peter can take off and on at will, was going to somehow assuage her fears? She would have been much better off calling Marvel and asking for advice from any available former Spider-man writers.

 

[Doctor Octopus]

I don't feel bad for Pascal. She had 2 chances with the TASM series and even she knew the second one was not up to snuff.

Agreed but it is good she realize how bad the movie was even before it got released. It is worse when people in charge don't know how bad movies they are making are.

So much for evil studio heads overriding the great Marc Webb? Eh Spider Knight? I know you are lurking and probably crying.

lol well Avi Arad is still a bad influence. Or was. He is out now so hooray.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

I feel bad for criticizing Pascal for being one of the problems with the franchise, when in reality she really wasn't happy with what we were getting all along.

Yeah, I just stumbled into this section for the first time in ages, and I feel the same way.

 

[Napoleon]

God... I hated that scene.

He just came across as a ****. Yeah, he's quipping slightly, but not in that playful Parker way.

Oh noes, the poor car thief! Please don't hurt him, despite the fact that he tried to kill Spider-Man and would have shanked an innocent person had they got in his way.

And how dare a filmmaker have the audacity to not portray Peter as a 60s nerd stereotype in the vein of George McFly.

 

[The Joker]

People try and kill Spider-Man all the time. And other heroes, too. They don't all act like *****e bag idiots like he did.

 

[Leenie]

People try and kill Spider-Man all the time. And other heroes, too. They don't all act like *****e bag idiots like he did.

Exactly, that's what makes them heroes.

I think the car thief scene started out nicely. I'm fine with Spidey yanking a bad guy's chains. The scene started out fun and then took a turn for the worse out of nowhere. Spidey went from a 1 to a Frank Castle in that scene. That's what ruined it for me.

 

[UltimateWebhead]

But....Spidey wasn't a 'hero' yet during the carjacker scene.

The lesson of greater responsibility hadn't sunk in--that's something which came later during his dinner convo with Capt Stacy and then saving the boy on the bridge.

There in lies the problem though. The movie failed to grasp the very basic elements of the character from the get-go. #rememberUncleBen

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

Exactly, that's what makes them heroes.

I think the car thief scene started out nicely. I'm fine with Spidey yanking a bad guy's chains. The scene started out fun and then took a turn for the worse out of nowhere. Spidey went from a 1 to a Frank Castle in that scene. That's what ruined it for me.

It also went on for way too long.

 

[DX]

"I'M GOING TO JOKE AROUND WITH THE GUY WHO MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE KILLED MY UNCLE! AREN'T I FUNNY?!"

Ugh.

 

[spideyboy_1111]

... i honestly didn't find anything wrong with the car-jacking scene...felt very spider-man to me ... *shrugs*

i guess hater's gonna hate

 

[Spider-Man Luvr28]

Did you guys see this new pic Ant Wrangler posted on his IG? Love it.

https://instagram.com/p/2_hn7CwAla/?taken-by=antwrangler

 

[UltimateWebhead]

... i honestly didn't find anything wrong with the car-jacking scene...felt very spider-man to me ... *shrugs*

i guess hater's gonna hate

It seems people are hating on that particular scene because Spidey wasn't acting appropriately for a hero. Yet, the point in that scene as we later learned, he was not a hero during his man-hunting. Although maybe he thought he was being a hero, "Spider-Man is trying to help" but he was only helping himself. All the guys he was webbing up were matching the description of his Uncle's killer. Spidey was in vigilante mode. He wasn't out to help people, he was out for revenge.

Looking back though, I hate how Uncle Ben was so discarded in the second movie.

Did you guys see this new pic Ant Wrangler posted on his IG? Love it.

https://instagram.com/p/2_hn7CwAla/?taken-by=antwrangler

Nice pic! Thanks for sharing.

ASM2 has some very wonderful visuals.

 

[The Joker]

"I'M GOING TO JOKE AROUND WITH THE GUY WHO MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE KILLED MY UNCLE! AREN'T I FUNNY?!"

Ugh.

That's another terrible aspect to it. This guy could possibly have murdered his beloved Uncle, and he's cracking jokes?

Awful!

 

[Lantern Venom]

But....Spidey wasn't a 'hero' yet during the carjacker scene.

The lesson of greater responsibility hadn't sunk in--that's something which came later during his dinner convo with Capt Stacy and then saving the boy on the bridge.

There in lies the problem though. The movie failed to grasp the very basic elements of the character from the get-go. #rememberUncleBen

I just recently reread the Death of the Stacys arcs, and I like how the TASM movies got the grave consequences of being a hero correct. The movies didn't adhere exactly to the stories, but in some ways they held tighter to the themes of those classic stories than did Raimi's trilogy. Peter learned that his heroism couldn't be compartmentalized, and that he would have to accept the ever-present risks of that for those close to him.

 

[Doctor Octopus]

Disagreed. ASM movies did not get that right. He never learn from anything. He did not learn when Uncle Ben died, and they got most important of Peter origin wrong there. When Captain Stacy die he promise to stay away from Gwen and he did not so he learn nothing from his death.

ASM movies not understand Peter Parker or any of the characters. That's why they terrible. That's why franchise failed. Glad it is finished now. Spider-Man fans deserve better.

 

[Lantern Venom]

Disagreed. ASM movies did not get that right. He never learn from anything. He did not learn when Uncle Ben died, and they got most important of Peter origin wrong there. When Captain Stacy die he promise to stay away from Gwen and he did not so he learn nothing from his death.

ASM movies not understand Peter Parker or any of the characters. That's why they terrible. That's why franchise failed. Glad it is finished now. Spider-Man fans deserve better.

TASM movies did much better at adapting the dreary birth pangs that took comics (and not just Spider-man) into the Bronze age. They were just stock characters with no personalities in SM3, but their deaths rattled Peter in the TASM movies and taught him that his mission would inevitably have unintended consequences. Not everyone liked a darker Spider-man, but that's how comics were changing in the 70s.

The franchise didn't fail as much as it came to a premature halt like its predecessor. But it put Spider-man in elite company as a 5-movie solo headliner, something only Supes and Bats currently have. Spider-man fans have no right to say we "deserve better". Rather we should be rejoicing in the character's continued appeal and yet another transition in live action.

 

[Keehar]

"I'M GOING TO JOKE AROUND WITH THE GUY WHO MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE KILLED MY UNCLE! AREN'T I FUNNY?!"

Ugh.

But he quipped so he waz teh best Spider-Man evah!!!!

Disagreed. ASM movies did not get that right. He never learn from anything. He did not learn when Uncle Ben died, and they got most important of Peter origin wrong there. When Captain Stacy die he promise to stay away from Gwen and he did not so he learn nothing from his death.

ASM movies not understand Peter Parker or any of the characters. That's why they terrible. That's why franchise failed. Glad it is finished now. Spider-Man fans deserve better.

Amen.

Champagne corks were popping in the Spider-Man fan base when that suckage franchise sank under the weight of it's own crappyness.