The Amazing Spider-Man The Amazing Spider-Man: Box Office Thread - Part 2

[spider-neil]

I think ASM will pass the 700m point by the end of the month.

 

[Spiderdevil]

why bring bb? look at the facts begins cost 150mill and made 205mill thats plus 55mill domestic.amazing spiderman cost 230mill and made 252mill so far thats plus 22mill simple math.i like both films but this arguement is pointless.and plus spidey had 3-d and begins didnt you dont bring that up.so begins was more profitable domestically.you shouldnt compare movies with different budgets anyway.

So begins is 55M more than its budget and TASM will be about 30M at the end of its run
Can you tell me why 25M makes such a big difference
And if you're gonna factor out 3D please bring TASM's budget down to 180M

 

[Spiderdevil]

We're talking about topping the CBM of the respective year and month.

I gave you BB and Madagascar comparison

And the year and month comparison makes no sense..Ice Age:Continental Drift was supposed to make truck loads whenever it would be released
Ice Age 3 made almost 900 so if you expected IC4 to remain under 700 you were being ridiculous

 

[Spiderdevil]

Very true. I don't know why TDKR or BB keeps getting brought up non-stop in threads that don't call for it. Wanna talk about the films in the lounge, awesome, but pointless comments about Nolan's trilogy in these boards aren't necessary.

For 2 reason
1.Because they are both reboots to popular franchises and didnt have much hype
2.Most of the people saying TASM's return has been disappointing are Nolan and Bat fans so BB needs to brought up to get things into prespective

 

[Themanofbat]

To be fair, I did not like Batman Begins... I did like TDK & TDKR... but BB was severely disappointing to me... So don't throw me into that group...

Thanks....

 

[spider-neil]

I wasn't disappointed with BB I just don't see the masterpiece that some people seem to. I only saw it in theatres once where as TDK and TDKR I saw 3 times each.

 

[Anno_Domini]

It is have to face a movie like TDKR? and also the shootings?

The shootings? The shootings didn't keep people away from watching the movie the second weekend.

I always knew it was going to,the last Ice age movie made 900M

And yet I don't recall you saying anything beforehand.

Its realistic not dark

Like Nolan's trilogy, huh?

The 'revenge' plot is a lot more extended than BB

Maybe extended, but it still takes vibes from BB.

Ah I guess BB was the first movie to have police go after the hero

For a CBM....yes.

Always The Lizard's plan in the comics,it was copied from there

So Lizard has walked around with gas all around New York in a comic?

Maybe one point but thats hardly inspiration

Giggidy-giggidy.

Then why didnt they stop the joker

Because the shock of the blast took them down...they DID NOT die. As you can see, Stephens is quite alive. I don't think there was a zombie detective helping. I don't see Nolan giving a nod to Solomon Grundy

It had to face TDKR,How hard is that to understand?

It had to face TDKR for the first two two weeks? Oh wait, it didn't. It was expected to have strong legs until TDKR

SM1 pwnes both of them in my opinion

Imo...Batman Begins, Iron Man, Spider-Man....but the '02 film is better than TAS-M.

Your box office expectations?

Couldn't really say right now, but I'm hoping at least $800 million worldwide.

I gave you BB and Madagascar comparison

And the year and month comparison makes no sense..Ice Age:Continental Drift was supposed to make truck loads whenever it would be released
Ice Age 3 made almost 900 so if you expected IC4 to remain under 700 you were being ridiculous

Actually, it does make sense....some CBMs, if they're good enough, could hold an animated film down.

Plus...Madagascar was released on May 27, 2005 while BB was released on June 15, 2005. Even your comparison isn't what I am referring to.

For 2 reason
1.Because they are both reboots to popular franchises and didnt have much hype

Sure, they're both reboots....so why don't we compared TAS-M to The Incredible Hulk or Casino Royale or Star Trek? It's always Batman Begins whereever you look in this thread.

2.Most of the people saying TASM's return has been disappointing are Nolan and Bat fans so BB needs to brought up to get things into prespective

Most of the people actually bringing up BB are Spidey fans that seem ******** whenever someone identifies something bad with TAS-M's BO numbers.

 

[JKKS085]

So begins is 55M more than its budget and TASM will be about 30M at the end of its run
Can you tell me why 25M makes such a big difference
And if you're gonna factor out 3D please bring TASM's budget down to 180M

So 60 millions just for 3D ? You must be joking dropping number like that aren't you ?

The most expensive 3D post-conversion is Titanic's with a budget of 18 million. An it's known for being the biggest investment ever to release a movie in 3D behind Avatar (if you take R&D costs for the 3D camera Cameron developed for the movie).

While TASM was originally shot in 3D wich basically means they only used slightly more expensive digital (wich brings the cost down compared to film or Imax) cameras provided by Sony and had to design visual effects in 3D. Extra cost is by no means more than 15 million dollars. And it's probably less than that.

PS: In any company's book, 25 million dollars is a lot of money. I mean most indie films cost less than that produce nowadays.

 

[Spiderdevil]

The shootings? The shootings didn't keep people away from watching the movie the second weekend.

It did,TASM droped 62% when the shooting happened,similar statistic with other movies

And yet I don't recall you saying anything beforehand.

Because I came to know about its release date pretty late on

Like Nolan's trilogy, huh?

Nolan's trilogy is dark which TASM isnt
Yes it is also realistic but it isnt the first superhero movie to be realistic

Maybe extended, but it still takes vibes from BB.

And from the '02 movie

For a CBM....yes.

Still not a major inspiration..it was part of the Captain Stacy character

So Lizard has walked around with gas all around New York in a comic?

It was always part of Lizard's plan,turning the city into humanoid lizards

Because the shock of the blast took them down...they DID NOT die. As you can see, Stephens is quite alive. I don't think there was a zombie detective helping. I don't see Nolan giving a nod to Solomon Grundy

And why didnt Stevens stop him?
And better still,why didnt Lau go down?

It had to face TDKR for the first two two weeks? Oh wait, it didn't. It was expected to have strong legs until TDKR

And it did
It made 225M till then..Just to put things into prespective,BB made about 140 in the first 17 days..it got to 205 due to having no tough movie to compete with like TASM had

Imo...Batman Begins, Iron Man, Spider-Man....but the '02 film is better than TAS-M.

Overall in my opinion SM1 is the best origin movie ever
TASM tells the 'Origin' part a lot better than the 02 movie but fails in the Villian department

Couldn't really say right now, but I'm hoping at least $800 million worldwide.

Looks like overexpectation to me

Actually, it does make sense....some CBMs, if they're good enough, could hold an animated film down.

Plus...Madagascar was released on May 27, 2005 while BB was released on June 15, 2005. Even your comparison isn't what I am referring to.

Point is,Animated movies always win(However bad they are)..especially if it is a sequel

so why don't we compared TAS-M to The Incredible Hulk

Can be compared but TASM has breezed past it so no point in bringing it up

Casino Royale or Star Trek?

Because they are not comic book movies
Still TASM has beaten then both on WW gross..it has almost touched Star-Trek's domestic gross aswell

Most of the people actually bringing up BB are Spidey fans that seem ******** whenever someone identifies something bad with TAS-M's BO numbers.

And that 'Someone' is almost always a Nolan fan

 

[JKKS085]

Because they are not comic book movies
Still TASM has beaten then both on WW gross..it has almost touched Star-Trek's domestic gross aswell

Casino Royale adjusted is 724M WW on a 183M production budget.
Star Trek domestic total adjusted is 274M on a 160.5M production budget.

TASM domestic total is as of today 252M with a WW total of 679M on a 230M budget.

 

[Spiderdevil]

So 60 millions just for 3D ? You must be joking dropping number like that aren't you ?

50M*

The most expensive 3D post-conversion is Titanic's with a budget of 18 million.

The movie is not post-converted movie

While TASM was originally shot in 3D wich basically means they only used slightly more expensive digital (wich brings the cost down compared to film or Imax) cameras provided by Sony and had to design visual effects in 3D. Extra cost is by no means more than 15 million dollars. And it's probably less than that.

Its the first movie to be shot by a red-epic camera
The normal camera 3D cost app. is 19% more than a 2D film so 36M is the minimum cost..taking into consideration that the special camera the cost may be higher
So yeah 50M was an overestimation
Taking out that money from the budget it comes down to 194M..almost the same Budget as BB(after inflation)
Basically the point is,that its ridiculous to keep screaming 3D as if its black money..they have spent money filming in 3D and using the visual effects so they deserve the profit from their investment

PS: In any company's book, 25 million dollars is a lot of money. I mean most indie films cost less than that produce nowadays.

It is but the movie has exceeded expectation by more than that in the overseas market so they wont mind

 

[Anno_Domini]

It did,TASM droped 62% when the shooting happened,similar statistic with other movies

1.) Did it really matter during the shooting since TDKR was released?

2.) I am talking about the week before TDKR was released anyways when it was toppled by a children's flick.

Because I came to know about its release date pretty late on

Uhhu...

Nolan's trilogy is dark which TASM isnt
Yes it is also realistic but it isnt the first superhero movie to be realistic

Lol. Just admit that TAS-M WAS inspired by BB in so many ways. You're only kidding yourself now.

And from the '02 movie

What are you trying to say now? Of course it copied the '02 film...that's what gets TAS-M so much backlash anyways.

Still not a major inspiration..it was part of the Captain Stacy character

Still a major inspiration to use the police in the reboot

It was always part of Lizard's plan,turning the city into humanoid lizards

But using the gas ala the League of Shadows? Show me any panel from a comic that details this.

And why didnt Stevens stop him?

It's like talking to a wall, I swear.

Didn't I JUST give the reason?

And better still,why didnt Lau go down?

We don't know if he did or didn't, as we only see the aftermath of the explosion as Joker walks towards Lau's cell.

And you say I have silly ass nitpicks.

And it did
It made 225M till then..Just to put things into prespective,BB made about 140 in the first 17 days..it got to 205 due to having no tough movie to compete with like TASM had

And Ice Age 4 was its tough competition...that's sad.

Overall in my opinion SM1 is the best origin movie ever
TASM tells the 'Origin' part a lot better than the 02 movie but fails in the Villian department

Let's be real...both films fail in the villain department.

While Batman Begins and Iron Man gives a more detailed experience of the man before the suit, Spider-Man gets its props for just finally putting up Spidey's origin on the big screen.

Looks like overexpectation to me

Wait until next year then

1.) It's Superman and the last time we saw a worthwhile Superman film was Superman II
2.) Nolan is behind the project as producer

I don't see how that number can't be expected.

Point is,Animated movies always win(However bad they are)..especially if it is a sequel

But that doesn't add up to my point at all. Animated films "always win", sure, but we have never seen an animated film top a CBM such as Ice Age 4 did with TAS-M, or as I can recall.

Because they are not comic book movies
Still TASM has beaten then both on WW gross..it has almost touched Star-Trek's domestic gross aswell

If it hasn't touched Star Trek's domestic gross, then they should be compared more than BB and TAS-M.

Here, let me bring in something to compare TAS-M with Star Trek...while TAS-M's opening weekend was $62,004,688, Star Trek's opening weekend was $75,204,289. Now commence on comparing those two!

And that 'Someone' is almost always a Nolan fan

But yet that 'someone' doesn't bother bring up BB except for the TAS-M fans. Funny how that works, huh?

 

[Spiderdevil]

Casino Royale adjusted is 724M WW on a 183M production budget.
Star Trek domestic total adjusted is 274M on a 160.5M production budget.

TASM domestic total is as of today 252M with a WW total of 679M on a 230M budget.

Just like Anno,you use Domestic,Overseas and world wide number by choice to belittle the movie with whichever is convenient

Use one number as a barometer(I use WW)

Star Trek 437M of a 170M Budget
Casino Royale 719M of a 182M Budget
Batman Begins 462M of a 186M Budget
Incredible Hulk of a 298M of a 170M budget

TASM 680M from a 230M budget as of now
If we assume 685(255+430) at the end of its run and 40M in China the total comes to 725(More than Casino Royale)
TASM wins the reboot department but Casino Royale was more profitable if you take the budget into consideration

 

[Spiderdevil]

1.) Did it really matter during the shooting since TDKR was released?

It did..both TDKR and shooting were major factors

2.) I am talking about the week before TDKR was released anyways when it was toppled by a children's flick.

It didnt show any drops the day Ice age was released and the day after

Lol. Just admit that TAS-M WAS inspired by BB in so many ways. You're only kidding yourself now.

It wasnt

What are you trying to say now? Of course it copied the '02 film...that's what gets TAS-M so much backlash anyways.

Hence it copied SM1 and not BB in that department

Still a major inspiration to use the police in the reboot

Gwen Stacy was used--->Which puts her father in the equation---->Captain Stacy is a police officer
Hence the police
Basically he is used as TASM's version of JJ Jameson as the anti-spidey guy

But using the gas ala the League of Shadows? Show me any panel from a comic that details this.

League's plan was to use drug to change city into maniacs who destroy themselves..Lizards plan was to use it to turn them into Lizards who he thinks are powerful beings
The genali machine is a whole lot different than the plan league used
Its based on a chemical cloud rather than evaporated drug
The climax is completely different
Except the 'Gas' part everything is different
Its like me saying the nuclear weapon in TDKR is influenced by th Nuclear reactor used by DocOck in SM2

We don't know if he did or didn't, as we only see the aftermath of the explosion as Joker walks towards Lau's cell

So if we assume Lau goes down and regains consiousness by that time...then why werent the other officers awake by that time? And if they were why didnt they stop the Joker

And you say I have silly ass nitpicks.

I assure you..my nitpicks make more sense then 'Hey why wasnt there an investigation' or 'Why didnt they show cuts on Jameson'

And Ice Age 4 was its tough competition...that's sad.

When did I saw Ice Age was a tough competition? stop putting words in my mouth
It still made 225M in 17 days till TDKR's release despite of Ice Age
But due to TDKR and the shootings it managed to make only 27M after that

Let's be real...both films fail in the villain department.

No

While Batman Begins and Iron Man gives a more detailed experience of the man before the suit

This I agree..but TASM tried to do that and it was bashed due to that

Wait until next year then
1.) It's Superman and the last time we saw a worthwhile Superman film was Superman II
2.) Nolan is behind the project as producer

Nolan is the producer..he isnt directing

But that doesn't add up to my point at all. Animated films "always win", sure, but we have never seen an animated film top a CBM such as Ice Age 4 did with TAS-M, or as I can recall.

I am sure they always do..I dont recall them releasing in close proximity so there is no example
And what the hell does 'Topping' mean
It still made double IC's amount domestically so that makes no sense
I have no problem with TASM remaining #2 through its stay if it ends up at 300M
The rank doesnt define anything..the final number does

And BB is doing better domestically.

I am a world wide man

If it hasn't touched Star Trek's domestic gross, then they should be compared more than BB and TAS-M.

Because it isnt a CBM..Its like talking to a wall I swear

Here, let me bring in something to compare TAS-M with Star Trek...while TAS-M's opening weekend was $62,004,688, Star Trek's opening weekend was $75,204,289. Now commence on comparing those two!

And BB's was 48M!! Boo Yah!!
And As I said..I dont care about opening numbers or ranking..I care about the final numbers

But yet that 'someone' doesn't bother bring up BB except for the TAS-M fans. Funny how that works, huh?

Because BB's money cant even compare to TASM's so he would be really pwning himself

 

[JKKS085]

Just like Anno,you use Domestic,Overseas and world wide number by choice to belittle the movie with whichever is convenient

Use one number as a barometer(I use WW)

Star Trek 437M of a 170M Budget
Casino Royale 719M of a 182M Budget
Batman Begins 462M of a 186M Budget
Incredible Hulk of a 298M of a 170M budget

TASM 680M from a 230M budget as of now
If we assume 685(255+430) at the end of its run and 40M in China the total comes to 725(More than Casino Royale)
TASM wins the reboot department but Casino Royale was more profitable if you take the budget into consideration

You were the one that brought in about Star Trek's domestic numbers I wasn't.
You used unadjusted numbers and took production budgets out of the equation to dishonestly prove your point.

Point is TASM has no chance at all to become the most successfull reboot domestically (and ST's adjusted pb is 160,5 not 170 according to BoM) or internationally (Casino Royale's 545M adjusted are out of reach) and has yet to beat CR's WW total (while you claim in your previous messages it already did). And even though it may very well exceed Casino Royale's WW grosses in the end of its theatrical run, it will ultimately fail to do for the Spider-Man franchise what Batman Begins, Casino Royale and Star Trek 2009 did for their respective franchises, enhance their reputation and expand their viewership. That's why I still have issues to understand how anyone could call it "the most successfull reboot in history".

PS: Arithmetically, there's no need to adjust both the earnings and production budgets since you get the exact same profit ratio from the original numbers. And on a side note, your adjusted figures are off everytime by a few millions. I don't know what source you use but BoM is the best way to get accurate adjusted numbers on ticket price inflation.

 

[JKKS085]

Double post

 

[JKKS085]

The normal camera 3D cost app. is 19% more than a 2D film so 36M is the minimum cost..taking into consideration that the special camera the cost may be higher

Source ?
And try to quote a recent article because the cost of use of 3D cameras has significantly dropped since 2009. And you have to take in account that Sony is primarely a manufacturer of electronics products as well so it would basically mean Sony buying/renting stuff from Sony in order to shoot the movie.

So yeah 50M was an overestimation

Yeah I thought so, but it's always hard to make fair estimations when you have biased views on how a movie performed.

Taking out that money from the budget it comes down to 194M..almost the same Budget as BB(after inflation)

By a 7 million margin, wich is still a lot of money.
And if I follow your logic that also means taking out basically 20% of TASM's domestic gross earned from 3D screenings wich brings the movie to 202 million domestically compared to BB's 256M adjusted domestic gross (wich TASM hasn't reached yet BTW).
But I agree, that wouldn't make any sense.

Basically the point is,that its ridiculous to keep screaming 3D as if its black money..they have spent money filming in 3D and using the visual effects so they deserve the profit from their investment

Agreed but in this case it also helps to hide the significant domestic drop in ticket sales from previous installments in the franchise. Wich is the movie's biggest problem that you seem to take lots of care to avoid/hide by bringing WW numbers in when we're talking about domestic grosses.
Big scoop is, upon further inspection, that it helps to hide a strong overseas drop in tickets sales as well. But the movie is such a HUGE success that you might have just overlooked it.

It is but the movie has exceeded expectation by more than that in the overseas market so they wont mind

If you say so.

 

[Anno_Domini]

It did..both TDKR and shooting were major factors

TAS-M had trouble brewing before both of those.

It didnt show any drops the day Ice age was released and the day after

So even if Ice Age 4 wasn't release...TAS-M's numbers would've still been pretty bad in its second week?

It wasnt

That's not you agreeing.

Okay, let's try one more time.

Go.

Hence it copied SM1 and not BB in that department

Focusing more on the emotional depth - Batman Begins(which really helped Iron Man in that area as well as even Favreau mentioned this and TAS-M took guidelines from Iron Man also)

Focusing on the origin in general(Uncle Ben's murder) - copying the '02 film when the origin didn't even have to be retold

Gwen Stacy was used--->Which puts her father in the equation---->Captain Stacy is a police officer
Hence the police

That didn't really force Raimi into using the police more.

Basically he is used as TASM's version of JJ Jameson as the anti-spidey guy

Because if they had used Captain Stacy the correct way, it would have felt more like the relationship between Batman and Gordon, haha.

Plus, let's face it...Spider-Man is someone that doesn't need to have any kind of relationship with the police. I'm looking forward to a less police use in the sequel.

League's plan was to use drug to change city into maniacs who destroy themselves..Lizards plan was to use it to turn them into Lizards who he thinks are powerful beings

Still gas whichever way you want to look at it.

The genali machine is a whole lot different than the plan league used
Its based on a chemical cloud rather than evaporated drug

A chemical in...GAS form.

The climax is completely different
Except the 'Gas' part everything is different

Do we expect for the climax to be EXACTLY the same? Nope. And no one said this.

Its like me saying the nuclear weapon in TDKR is influenced by th Nuclear reactor used by DocOck in SM2

Both are being used, or at least one's main purpose, for clean energy while in TDKR it's only fronted as being a clean energy supply.

So if we assume Lau goes down and regains consiousness by that time...then why werent the other officers awake by that time? And if they were why didnt they stop the Joker

Because Joker easily took down one police officer(Stephens)...you think he couldn't with the others?

I assure you..my nitpicks make more sense then 'Hey why wasnt there an investigation' or 'Why didnt they show cuts on Jameson'

If you say so there bud.

The first one should've been there...the second? The second is because of seemingly incorrect consistency it seems.

When did I saw Ice Age was a tough competition? stop putting words in my mouth
It still made 225M in 17 days till TDKR's release despite of Ice Age
But due to TDKR and the shootings it managed to make only 27M after that

it got to 205 due to having no tough movie to compete with like TASM had

What is this competition you speak of then? Hrm?

No

Yes. Green Goblin was

This I agree..but TASM tried to do that and it was bashed due to that

Because TAS-M didn't do a very good job of it. It was decent, but nothing incredible.

Nolan is the producer..he isnt directing

Can't read?

2.) Nolan is behind the project as producer

Still, Zack Snyder is and he's done a great job with CBMs in the form of 300 and Watchmen.

I am sure they always do..I dont recall them releasing in close proximity so there is no example
And what the hell does 'Topping' mean
It still made double IC's amount domestically so that makes no sense
I have no problem with TASM remaining #2 through its stay if it ends up at 300M

Exactly, there is no example except for Ice Age 4 vs The Amazing Spider-Man and we saw that outcome.

Plus, topping was beating TAS-M for the #1 spot btw.

The rank doesnt define anything..the final number does

And the final number could be looked as the WW gross at the moment.

I am a world wide man

Understandable as you don't live in the US anyways, but the domestic numbers are significant.

Because it isnt a CBM..

But it IS still a reboot.

Its like talking to a wall I swear

Damn, your copycat tendencies are quite annoying.

And BB's was 48M!! Boo Yah!!
And As I said..I dont care about opening numbers or ranking..I care about the final numbers

What did I just say about comparing TAS-M to something else?

And your reply better not be "because it's not a CBM!"

Because BB's money cant even compare to TASM's so he would be really pwning himself

No...because they're not childish that would bring up BB's numbers just because they bring up the fact that TAS-M should've been doing better only for someone else to just bring up another film to make themselves feel better in some self-righteous way.

 

[rayc1971]

So 60 millions just for 3D ? You must be joking dropping number like that aren't you ?

The most expensive 3D post-conversion is Titanic's with a budget of 18 million. An it's known for being the biggest investment ever to release a movie in 3D behind Avatar (if you take R&D costs for the 3D camera Cameron developed for the movie).

While TASM was originally shot in 3D wich basically means they only used slightly more expensive digital (wich brings the cost down compared to film or Imax) cameras provided by Sony and had to design visual effects in 3D. Extra cost is by no means more than 15 million dollars. And it's probably less than that.

PS: In any company's book, 25 million dollars is a lot of money. I mean most indie films cost less than that produce nowadays.

i give up trying to explain anything to spider devil he supports his arguements with no facts.

 

[TheLastBlade]

Wheredo people get casino royale results? I'm gonna assume I got bad ones because box office mojo says it made 594 mil total. If the total everyone got was also from DVD sales, then it's a pointless one because the DVD for tasm didnt came out yet...

 

[Rogue Kira]

Shouldn't this thread be closed now?

 

[SpiderMarvelite]

Box Office Update: The Amazing Spider-Man crossed 680 Million Worldwide yesterday! Will it hit 700 million?

When it gets to China. Yes it will.

Just as I predicted.

 

[JKKS085]

Wheredo people get casino royale results? I'm gonna assume I got bad ones because box office mojo says it made 594 mil total. If the total everyone got was also from DVD sales, then it's a pointless one because the DVD for tasm didnt came out yet...

That's the same number from the same source although adjusted for ticket price inflation

 

[Spiderdevil]

You used unadjusted numbers and took production budgets out of the equation to dishonestly prove your point.

Showing adjusted numbers also easily proves my point

Point is TASM has no chance at all to become the most successfull reboot domestically

As I said..TASM should beat Casino Royale's Total after releasing in China
But taking the budget into account Casino Royale's wins
So TASM's easily second best reboot

(and ST's adjusted pb is 160,5 not 170 according to BoM)

Yeah..My mistake

or internationally (Casino Royale's 545M adjusted are out of reach)

722M is not out of reach

and has yet to beat CR's WW total (while you claim in your previous messages it already did).

I was estimating numbers at the end of its run..and 40M from China will easily make it break that number

in the end of its theatrical run, it will ultimately fail to do for the Spider-Man franchise what Batman Begins, Casino Royale and Star Trek 2009 did for their respective franchises, enhance their reputation and expand their viewership. That's why I still have issues to understand how anyone could call it "the most successfull reboot in history".

And how exactly did you get to that conclusion?
You looked into the silver globe of yours?

PS: Arithmetically, there's no need to adjust both the earnings and production budgets since you get the exact same profit ratio from the original numbers.

Thats true but it gives is an idea when we compare their box office numbers

And on a side note, your adjusted figures are off everytime by a few millions. I don't know what source you use but BoM is the best way to get accurate adjusted numbers on ticket price inflation.

Thats because I was using a calculator and rounding off numbers

 

[Spiderdevil]

Source ?
And try to quote a recent article because the cost of use of 3D cameras has significantly dropped since 2009.

This article is from 2011
http://falsecreekproductions.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Cost-of-3D-Movie-3.12.11-v2.pdf

And you have to take in account that Sony is primarely a manufacturer of electronics products as well so it would basically mean Sony buying/renting stuff from Sony in order to shoot the movie.

Majority of the budget is sony paying itself..it still adds to the budget though

Yeah I thought so, but it's always hard to make fair estimations when you have biased views on how a movie performed.

Its hard to make fair estimates when people keep factoring out 3D like its black money

By a 7 million margin, wich is still a lot of money.

When comparing to 230M budget..it isnt much

And if I follow your logic that also means taking out basically 20% of TASM's domestic gross earned from 3D screenings wich brings the movie to 202 million domestically compared to BB's 256M adjusted domestic gross (wich TASM hasn't reached yet BTW).
But I agree, that wouldn't make any sense.

Yeah it wouldnt make sense

Agreed but in this case it also helps to hide the significant domestic drop in ticket sales from previous installments in the franchise.

Agreed
Batman begins for example..sold less tickets than any other previous Batman movie(Except Batman and Robin) but that doesnt stop people from claiming that it was a success financially and improved viewership
People always do it in the modern era

Wich is the movie's biggest problem that you seem to take lots of care to avoid/hide by bringing WW numbers in when we're talking about domestic grosses.

No..thats because I dont live in the United States and I dont think its fair to stack up 1 country's numbers against 2 dozen countries(where it has exceeded expectations)

Big scoop is, upon further inspection, that it helps to hide a strong overseas drop in tickets sales as well. But the movie is such a HUGE success that you might have just overlooked it.

TDKR