The Amazing Spider-Man The Amazing Spider-Man General Discussion & Speculation Thread - - - - - - P - - - Part 19

[stillanerd]

Stillanerd is clearly nitpicking for the hell of it though. Agreed though if there will be anything to be nit-picked it should be the structure of the movie, etc. Hopefully that will not be the case though.

But what I'm pointing out about the carjacker scene as it currently stands is a potential structural problem, as well as potential script problem. It's true that this is just one scene and it could potentially work better within the full context of the movie, but as things stand now, I just don't think it works all that well. And if there's more scenes like this throughout the movie in which it becomes harder to suspend one's disbelief, then I think that's going to be a real problem for this film.

Personally hate problems with logic in film, so I don't consider such things a nitpick.

Thanks.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Damn, they are all hating on the carjacker clip over at BO forums, I'm stomped, and I don't get it.

Some people are just waiting to hate on this film. It is after all believed to be a money grab reboot by many. The clip gave them a chance.

 

[Joe_Kickass]

Just because it's trying make the point that Spidey is fast and to make the audience just as surprised as the thief doesn't mean one's belief must be completely suspended. If someone's watching the film and they don't notice something they otherwise would, then the film did a great job in pulling the audience into the movie and entertaining them. But the audience starts asking questions during the movie and essentially saying "that doesn't make any sense," then the movie is not doing a good job in pulling people into movie and entertaining them, IMO.



Well, I would argue how Spidey gets into the car, while not a deal breaker by any means, is an example of structural problem, both in terms of the script and with editing. But yeah, I'm not upset if people thought the scene worked for them. I consider it a healthy disagreement.

It's not a problem with the script, since the scene is out of context, maybe it shows how Spider-Man got in. You are in fact nitpicking, as someone said, the scene is from the persecptive of the thief. Think about it. If they dont show Spidey getting into the car, the audience may react to the thief getting in and him being oblivious to Spidey being behind him.
Because there's that 2 second of silence will Spidey just calmly sits in the back seat. The same sort of things happen in Nolan's Batman movies. One second Batman is standing there, the camera goes off from him for like 2 seconds and then goes back to where he's standing and he's completely gone, without making any noise at all. It adds to the mystery of the character and unexpectedness. We told you how he got out of the car, and yet you keep b*tching about it over and over again. Seriously, are you one of those type of people who try to find a fault in anything to make yourself feel more clever than the people who make the actual movie? Stop complaining, it's a movie, where life is dramatized and more action packed.

 

[Mary Jane Watson]

I usually do, but heck, it's Spider-Man, I should give it a try

Haha yeah.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

It's not a problem with the script, since the scene is out of context, maybe it shows how Spider-Man got in. You are in fact nitpicking, as someone said, the scene is from the persecptive of the thief. Think about it. If they dont show Spidey getting into the car, the audience may react to the thief getting in and him being oblivious to Spidey being behind him.
Because there's that 2 second of silence will Spidey just calmly sits in the back seat. The same sort of things happen in Nolan's Batman movies. One second Batman is standing there, the camera goes off from him for like 2 seconds and then goes back to where he's standing and he's completely gone, without making any noise at all. It adds to the mystery of the character and unexpectedness. We told you how he got out of the car, and yet you keep b*tching about it over and over again. Seriously, are you one of those type of people who try to find a fault in anything to make yourself feel more clever than the people who make the actual movie? Stop complaining, it's a movie, where life is dramatized and more action packed.

To be fair. There is a clear difference between disappearing into the night, and sneaking into a car. One makes a bit more noise then the other.

 

[CashforStash]

This movie MAY be disappointing and you guys are arguing over how Spidey got into a car.

 

[Joe_Kickass]

Just because it's trying make the point that Spidey is fast and to make the audience just as surprised as the thief doesn't mean one's belief must be completely suspended. If someone's watching the film and they don't notice something they otherwise would, then the film did a great job in pulling the audience into the movie and entertaining them. But the audience starts asking questions during the movie and essentially saying "that doesn't make any sense," then the movie is not doing a good job in pulling people into movie and entertaining them, IMO.



Well, I would argue how Spidey gets into the car, while not a deal breaker by any means, is an example of structural problem, both in terms of the script and with editing. But yeah, I'm not upset if people thought the scene worked for them. I consider it a healthy disagreement.

LOL You seem to be the only one questioning everything.
Are you one of those people in the middle of the movie that say things like "How is that possible?! That makes NO sense!"?

 

[DarthSkywalker]

LOL You seem to be the only one questioning everything.
Are you one of those people in the middle of the movie that say things like "How is that possible?! That makes NO sense!"?

Is there something wrong with that?

 

[Spider-Who?]

But what I'm pointing out about the carjacker scene as it currently stands is a potential structural problem, as well as potential script problem. It's true that this is just one scene and it could potentially work better within the full context of the movie, but as things stand now, I just don't think it works all that well. And if there's more scenes like this throughout the movie in which it becomes harder to suspend one's disbelief, then I think that's going to be a real problem for this film.



Thanks.

I'm convinced that you actually aren't reading anyone's responses and are simply quoting them and regurgitating your "points", because I and others have clearly addressed them and yet you continue. Not so obvious troll is becoming obvious.

 

[Ashes2Phoenix]

To be fair. There is a clear difference between disappearing into the night, and sneaking into a car. One makes a bit more noise then the other.

You just are not getting it. The GA are not going to sit there worrying about how Spidey got into the car. He is a superhero, he is going to be able to do things out of the ordinary. Their disbelief will be suspended well before this clip, considering he is able to do things that no normal human could. You make it seems as if this is a plot problem, which it is not. There is no plot hole with this scene, just mystery. Honestly, it isn't that hard to grasp people.

 

[mayo23]

I'm convinced that you actually aren't reading anyone's responses and are simply quoting them and regurgitating your "points", because I and others have clearly addressed them and yet you continue. Not so obvious troll is becoming obvious.

Join myself and others in ignoring this person's nitpicks, because he feels that writing large paragraphs and bullet points makes his opinions more correct than others. At least 95% of his posts since the time I've been here are nitpicks or complaints about the film, usually always in drawn out arguments and by certain points no one really cares anymore. Trying to refute his argument will just result in more long, drawn out responses.

 

[MACH]

Yay, two nitpickers now! lol!

Kids, ay?

 

[DarthSkywalker]

You just are not getting it. The GA are not going to sit there worrying about how Spidey got into the car. He is a superhero, he is going to be able to do things out of the ordinary. There disbelief will be suspended well before this clip, considering he is able to do things that no normal human could. You make it seems as if this is a plot problem, which it is not. There is no plot hole with this scene, just mystery. Honestly, it isn't that hard to grasp people.

No you aren't getting it. Clearly someone is asking that question, otherwise this wouldn't be a topic.

Also, as I said before, not a fan when films break their own logic and I am allowed that opinion. See the stupid goal post scene.

Using your logic you can have a very serious movie about child abuse that suddenly features a brawl between Godzilla and Optimus Prime, and it works. Why? Suspension of disbelief.

 

[Eggyman]

Of all the things to debate, seriously, how a superhero gets in a car. Heh.

 

[stillanerd]

It's not a problem with the script, since the scene is out of context, maybe it shows how Spider-Man got in. You are in fact nitpicking, as someone said, the scene is from the persecptive of the thief. Think about it. If they dont show Spidey getting into the car, the audience may react to the thief getting in and him being oblivious to Spidey being behind him.
Because there's that 2 second of silence will Spidey just calmly sits in the back seat. The same sort of things happen in Nolan's Batman movies. One second Batman is standing there, the camera goes off from him for like 2 seconds and then goes back to where he's standing and he's completely gone, without making any noise at all. It adds to the mystery of the character and unexpectedness. We told you how he got out of the car, and yet you keep b*tching about it over and over again. Seriously, are you one of those type of people who try to find a fault in anything to make yourself feel more clever than the people who make the actual movie? Stop complaining, it's a movie, where life is dramatized and more action packed.

First of all, if you to have explain how something implausible happens in the movie when the film itself doesn't to an adequate job of doing this for you, then that's a problem with the movie, in my opinion. Second, the difference between Batman seemingly to appear and disappear silently in Nolan's film and Spider-Man doing the same thing is that only the former show and explanation for how he can do this but he's always shown doing in a area where there's plenty of open space and room to maneuver around in. And no, I do not think of myself as cleverer than the filmmakers; they wouldn't have gotten to where they did if they didn't have talent or expertise. But it's because of their talent and expertise--especially considering Marc Webb's success on 500 Days of Summer and how this a multi-million dollar film with a top notch cast and production team--then I'm going to hold the film to a much higher standard because the filmmakers themselves are asking for their audience to hold them to a higher standard.

 

[MACH]

Is there something wrong with that?

Yeah, there is. Because that kind of guy is an annoying *****e and actually only interested in making himself seem intelligent, rather than realising that everyone thought the same thing but used logic to find the answer rather than shouting from the rooftops.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Yay, two nitpickers now! lol!

Kids, ay?

Considering the review thread and the need to pick apart every last word written by those that have seen the film, I'd not throw stones.

 

[socool]

You guys are going to give me an aneurism.

 

[Ashes2Phoenix]

No you aren't getting it. Clearly someone is asking that question, otherwise this wouldn't be a topic.

Also, as I said before, not a fan when films break their own logic and I am allowed that opinion. See the stupid goal post scene.

Using your logic you can have a very serious movie about child abuse that suddenly features a brawl between Godzilla and Optimus Prime, and it works. Why? Suspension of disbelief.

Explain to me what logic is broken with this scene ?

 

[Spider-Who?]

Join myself and others in ignoring this person's nitpicks, because he feels that writing large paragraphs and bullet points makes his opinions more correct than others. At least 95% of his posts since the time I've been here are nitpicks or complaints about the film, usually always in drawn out arguments and by certain points no one really cares anymore. Trying to refute his argument will just result in more long, drawn out responses.

Do I get a tshirt for joining?

 

[MACH]

No you aren't getting it. Clearly someone is asking that question, otherwise this wouldn't be a topic.

Also, as I said before, not a fan when films break their own logic and I am allowed that opinion. See the stupid goal post scene.

Using your logic you can have a very serious movie about child abuse that suddenly features a brawl between Godzilla and Optimus Prime, and it works. Why? Suspension of disbelief.

You are twisting things and this is an unnecessary debate. Please let it go. It is boring.

 

[Mace Bloodstone]

Unbelievable, does every superhero movie go through this ridiculous microscopic analysis?

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Yeah, there is. Because that kind of guy is an annoying *****e and actually only interested in making himself seem intelligent, rather than realising that everyone thought the same thing but used logic to find the answer rather than shouting from the rooftops.

That is funny, because the argument has been no one notices such things. Which is it? t:

By the way, I like the scene. But the mentality around here is ridiculous. Just because someone doesn't agree doesn't make their point any less valid. Doesn't mean you just get to start insulting.

 

[Ashes2Phoenix]

You are twisting things and this is an unnecessary debate. Please let it go. It is boring.

You're from Bournemouth too !!!

 

[MACH]

Considering the review thread and the need to pick apart every last word written by those that have seen the film, I'd not throw stones.

You must have me confused with someone else mate because I did no such thing. I can assume you're a teen though right?