The Amazing Spider-Man The Amazing Spider-Man General Discussion & Speculation Thread - - - - - - P - - - Part 19

[MACH]

This comment wins the day.

Hahahaha! AGREED!

 

[cobrastatus]

Lets change the subject. Do you guys think this film will be linear or be more like 500 Days Of Summer, where we go back and forth through time ? I have this feeling that Spidey will already be established at the beginning of the movie and we will get the origin through flashbacks.

I don't think it will but I can't be sure of anything
I like that idea of flashbacks, as not to focus on origin too heavily

Spoiler

I hear he gets bit while exploring his fathers old laboratory, possibly Peter gets bitten after finding his fathers bag/meeting Connors?

 

[VenomSpawn]

I find spiders in my car all the time I have no idea how they get in there

 

[MACH]

Just because (500) was like that, (the writer's decision) doesn't mean everything Marc Webb does will be like that. Lol.

True. Least the subject has changed though lol

 

[Ashes2Phoenix]

Just because (500) was like that, (the writer's decision) doesn't mean everything Marc Webb does will be like that. Lol.

No, I completely agree. It's just that the first draft of the script suggested that it would not be linear and that Spidey would be established at the beginning of the film. Of course that was the first draft....

 

[Infinity9999x]

Oh. Yeah, he definitely lip said "six".

Yeah, except there was probably a solid ten or more pages of debate about that one stupid scene. It wasn't as epic as the perma-white debate, but by far the most annoyingly stupid debate I've ever seen.

Before that, the "IS THAT VENOM IN THE EYE!" Had the crown. Six or Ten unseated it. It has yet to be de-throned simply because I have seen nothing to match the utter stupidity of it.

 

[GENERAL RAAM582]

Sorry, but Venom in the eye?

 

[Eddie Brock]

Why are we rehashing all these terrible fanboy memories? "Venom in the eye" was the staunch belief some had that you could see Venom in Spider-Man's eye in the teaser poster for Spider-Man 3. It amounted to a bunch of circling things on Photoshop and turned into a real Rorschach test of stupidity.

 

[GENERAL RAAM582]

lawl This is gonna be great.

 

[socool]

Sorry, but Venom in the eye?

You've never heard of Venom in the eye?!

Back in 2006, when the 1st poster for Spider-Man 3 came out, (Spider-Man perched on the wall in the black suit) everyone and their grandmothers thought they saw something in Spider-Man's eyes because the poster had Spider-Man with reflective lenses. Some said it was the other buildings, some said it was the Green Goblin, but the one that stole the show and ran with it was that it was Venom and that it foreshadowed the end of the film. Naturally, this became the most logical and popular conclusion and has become one of the biggest inside jokes this side of Nerdom.

 

[GENERAL RAAM582]

Again, I can't wait to be apart of future dumb arguments. Yay!

 

[Infinity9999x]

Sorry, but Venom in the eye?

Ha, yeah, Venom in the eye was the response to the first official released picture of Spider-man in the black suit. The one of him in the rain on the belltower.

Because SM2 had a movie poster where Doc Ock appeared in Spider-man's eye, many people thought that Venom might be hidden in the reflection of Spider-man's eye lens. However, it's quite clear from a quick look at the picture that all that's reflected in his eye is ambient light and the greys of the cloud and sky around him. But it went on for a good few weeks.

It's hard to imagine now, but SM3 was easily the second most hyped movie I've ever seen on these boards (behind TDK). It was crazy around here. Pre-SM3, Raimi was a god and could do no wrong. I'm not a Raimi hater by any means, but I've never been overly fond of SM2. However, whenever I voiced my issues with it, I got flamed to holy hell (back then.)

So the build up for SM3 was pure madness. The hype was incredible. Hence the frenzied reaction to the first released pic of the black suit and the ridiculous debate about if Venom was reflected in the eye.

 

[Eddie Brock]

Mind you, all this was before it had been confirmed that Venom would appear in the film. It was still a possibility that Eddie getting the symbiote would be the cliffhanger ending.

 

[Infinity9999x]

Why are we rehashing all these terrible fanboy memories? "Venom in the eye" was the staunch belief some had that you could see Venom in Spider-Man's eye in the teaser poster for Spider-Man 3. It amounted to a bunch of circling things on Photoshop and turned into a real Rorschach test of stupidity.

It didn't last as long as the Permawhite debate thought:

Or the craziness that was the Joker fanboy casting debates. "HULME! DEPP! BETTANY!" Those debates got extremely heated.

 

[MACH]

Before that, the "IS THAT VENOM IN THE EYE!" Had the crown. Six or Ten unseated it. It has yet to be de-throned simply because I have seen nothing to match the utter stupidity of it.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! I remember that!


(He was definitely NOT, for anyone that wondered lol)

 

[GENERAL RAAM582]

I thought SM3 was gonna end in a cliffhanger too.

 

[Spider-Who?]

What, no love for the ORGANICS SUUUUUUUUUUUCK!!!!!! thread? I think that has the record for the most posts and views (this was waaaaay before the existence of Thread Manager).

 

[Infinity9999x]

I thought SM3 was gonna end in a cliffhanger too.

A lot of us did. There were actually some pretty good debates about weather or not they should/shouldn't do a cliffhanger ending. But most of us felt that there simply wasn't enough time to do Venom and the symbiote in general justice with two other villains in there.

 

[stillanerd]

This response PROVES that you aren't reading peoples responses, because that is NOT the point anyone is making about when/how spidey got in the car. For petes sake dude, freaking READ.

Much of the responses I've gotten--and by towards those who have raised the exact same point I did--either involve trying to explain away how Spidey could have gotten into a locked car before the carjacker broke into, that this "just a movie" that requires suspension of disbelief, or that one is just looking for something to criticize about the film. Earlier, you provided the following defense:

Something I realized while watching the extended clip concerning how spidey gets into the car.

People assume that spidey saw the thief breaking in and decided to act. This doesn't make sense with what he says however. Spidey says something along the lines of "if you're going to steal cars, don't dress like a car theif". This suggests that spidey realized this guy was a car theif before the guy even began to break in.

Secondly, we now see that a valet parked the car moments before the theif walks up to it, do we know that the car was unlocked for several minutes prior.

With these two points, we realize the likely series of events: spidey is on patrol and notices a suspicious guy eyeing a nice car waiting for a valet. He puts two and two together and decides to act. At some point between the car waiting for the valet, and the valet driving and parking the car, spidey hops in and hides in the back. This perfectly explains how spidey manages to bein the car before the theif gets in, and he pretty much explains that with his don't dress like a car theif line.

To give you credit, it is safe to assume that Spidey knows the guy is a car thief beforehand and that he saw him breaking into the car, hence his "don't dress like a car thief" line. That's what the film is telling us. However, lets assume that you are also correct in that Spidey got in before the valet locked the car and waited for the carjacker to break in. There are two big problem with that this raises. One--how does the valet not notice a guy in a brightly colored red-and-blue suit getting into the back seat of the car? And two--if Spidey got into the car before the carjacker broke into it, then how Spidey even know that this specific car was the one the carjacker was going to rob beforehand? Even if he suspected the guy of being a car thief based solely how suspicious he looked, how did he even know the car thief would attempt to steal that very car?

 

[Infinity9999x]

What, no live for the ORGANICS SUUUUUUUUUUUCK!!!!!! thread? I think that has the record for the most posts and views (this was waaaaay before the existence of Thread Manager).

Oh man. Yeah. That was before my time, that's going back to the days when this was Spider-man Hype right?

But even then, the organics/mech's debate lasted all through SM2 and SM3. It was pretty much a permanent stable of the Spidey boards. That has to have the award for longest existing thread ever.

 

[Eddie Brock]

I'm lucky organics vs. mechanical was before my time.

 

[GENERAL RAAM582]

I use to look around this site back in the SM3 days, around 2006, but I never visited the forums. I kinda wish I was here back then.

 

[Smegger56]

I'm lucky organics vs. mechanical was before my time.

I always thought it was a decent talking point. Can't remember if it just went ape ***** crazy though :-S

 

[Infinity9999x]

I'm lucky organics vs. mechanical was before my time.

I always preferred mechs, but organics never bothered me. To be honest, I always thought it was kind of silly that he got all the powers of a spider except that. I had many issues with the Raimi films, but the organics wasn't really one of them. I'm still glad we get to see mechs in this film though.

I use to look around this site back in the SM3 days, around 2006, but I never visited the forums. I kinda wish I was here back then.

It was definitely exciting. Lots of good debate. Like I said, the only film that's garnered more hype was TDK. That was pure madness at points. Unfortunately, the massive amount of hype for SM3 also lead to the massive overeaction many fans had to it. Some people called it the worst comic film ever, which is ridiculous when you think of the truly horrible comic films out there (Steel, Supergirl, 90's TV movie Cap etc).

 

[Eddie Brock]

I always thought it was a decent talking point. Can't remember if it just went ape ***** crazy though :-S

I agree with you. It does have the potential to make a good debate, and I'm sure many level-headed posters addressed it in that way. On the other hand, this is the internet. For every logical point offered on both sides, I'm sure there were ten people screaming and starting flame wars. Fanboys, as a whole, get too protective of things sometimes.