The Amazing Spider-Man v.2 - Part 2

[Havok83]

MJ's the new Spidergirl? I saw a recent issue which had her dressed in clothing similar to Spiderman and she was web swinging

 

[Themanofbat]

No... it was Spider-Island... everyone had Spider-Man powers...

 

[SpideyInATree]

Yeah, she actually kept them for a little bit longer and then Pete came along with the injection and turned her back into just a super sexy red head. However, that's also kind of a superpower if you want to get technical about it.

Read the recent ish of ASM this evening and good to see the Vulture back in some sort of capacity. I am hoping we get more of something like this, which we are supposed to with a Sinister Six reappearance, and find out what some of Spidey's more classic villains were doing during the Spider-Island debacle.

 

[dtud]

So I just read the new issue, and I'm having trouble remembering, when was the Vultures last appearance? I never feel like these guys have been away for that long, and then it turns out they haven't shown up in years. The last thing I remember Vulture in (Toomes version) was Mark Millar's run on Marvel Knights: Spider-Man. Is that right?

(Now I skipped out on 50 or so issues after OMD so he may have appeared then.)

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Yeah, she actually kept them for a little bit longer and then Pete came along with the injection and turned her back into just a super sexy red head. However, that's also kind of a superpower if you want to get technical about it.

Indeed, lol.

 

[Themanofbat]

The last known appearance of Adrian Toombs was in Web of Spider-Man #134... which came out in 2009... he did not appear as the Vulture.

 

[runawayboulder]

The last known appearance of Adrian Toombs was in Web of Spider-Man #134... which came out in 2009... he did not appear as the Vulture.

Web #134? Not sure about that one. I remember a scene when somebody asked him about the new Vulture and Toomes was in Rikers or the Raft. I have a feeling it was in The Punisher but it could have been ASM.

 

[Themanofbat]

Web #134? Not sure about that one. I remember a scene when somebody asked him about the new Vulture and Toomes was in Rikers or the Raft. I have a feeling it was in The Punisher but it could have been ASM.

Web of Spider-Man #129 (volume 1)
Web of Spider-Man #12 (volume 2)

Total issues of WoSM = 141

Therefore, Web of Spider-Man #134 equals Web of Spdier-Man volume 2 #5... the very issue you're commenting about.

 

[runawayboulder]

Web of Spider-Man #129 (volume 1)
Web of Spider-Man #12 (volume 2)

Total issues of WoSM = 141

Therefore, Web of Spider-Man #134 equals Web of Spdier-Man volume 2 #5... the very issue you're commenting about.

Actually the issue I was thinking of is ASM #594/July 09. Spider-Man goes to the Raft to ask Toomes about the new Vulture (although he denied any connection).

The issue you're talking about came out in April 2010 and was a Vulture solo story that took place in the prison but didn't have Spidey. So you were kinda right. I thought the Spidey/Toomes prison scene was more recent but whatever.....

 

[dtud]

Oh okay, I got on board again with 600, and I only read a handful of the new Web of Spider-Man. But that leaves me with another question, when did he end up at The Raft? During Civil War? (Actually, come to think of it, wasn't Vulture one of the villains who Cap caught after he went underground?)

 

[runawayboulder]

He got loose after that and attacked Deb Whitman at her book signing (about Pete unmasking). He had a stroke and ended up getting captured again.

 

[Jennifer Walters]

I don't even remember what happen to the new Vulture. Where the hell did he go?

 

[Shockdingo]

Frank Castle and him shared a wonderful night together...it was awesome t:

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Even though he clawed the crap out of Frank, ol' Vulty was knifed to death above New York and plummeted as Frank barley survived the descent. The art was amazing as was the pacing. I highly recommend that you check it out.

 

[SpideyInATree]

Yeah, that Punisher issue was fantastic. The whole series by Rucka and Checchetto is awesome. More people should be reading that book! Plus it's only 2.99!

 

[Spider-Man '92]

Read the latest ish last night. As always, Slott delivers, and I especially loved Camuncoli's art. Outside of the excellent inside, I especially loved "The greatest superhero in the world" tagged onto the cover title; it made everything look so old school.

On another note, from reading all of your posts, I'll have to look out for the Punisher book with the other Vulture, I bet I'd love it. :P

 

[Spidey_62]

Frank Castle and him shared a wonderful night together...it was awesome t:

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Even though he clawed the crap out of Frank, ol' Vulty was knifed to death above New York and plummeted as Frank barley survived the descent. The art was amazing as was the pacing. I highly recommend that you check it out.

So

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Rulture is dead?

 

[Shockdingo]

So

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Rulture is dead?

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Very....very dead. t: Frank stabbed him in the chest. Vulture freaked out and stopped everything. Frank, not pleased, stabbed him under the chin straight into the brain. Rulture cried, fell to his death and splattered on top of a building. The next issue, you see the cops looking over his bloody body...there's a lot of feathers spread about.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Great preview of issue 675.
http://www.newsarama.com/php/multimedia/album.php?aid=45026

 

[stillanerd]

Great preview of issue 675.
http://www.newsarama.com/php/multimedia/album.php?aid=45026

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The thing about the Spidey and Carlie at the morgue scene is that it reminded me of the moment when Spidey revealed his true identity to the Black Cat. As some folks already know, the Black Cat's reaction was "Put your mask back on!" That's because, in her mind, Spider-Man was the real person, not Peter. Her idea of Spider-Man being a dashing and charming adventurer, not this guy who "pretended" to be this average, ordinary guy. This inability to see them as the same person even though she knew they were one and the same is what ultimately contributed to their break-up.

Well, virtually the same thing is going on between Peter and Carlie now. Remember, Carlie told Peter that "Spider-Man" was the "real person" and that Peter was the "suit he wore" to "pretend" that he was like everyone else. Her being uncomfortable with Peter wearing his Spider-Man costume sans mask reinforces this belief, in that, just like the Black Cat, she can't see Peter and Spider-Man as the same person even though she knows they are one and the same.

So even though Peter and Carlie will probably come to an understanding, it's Carlie's new perception of Peter which will be the continual barrier now, because she only sees Peter as Spider-Man, not Spider-Man as Peter, or that there's no difference between Peter and Spider-Man--which, ironically, was the very thing Peter was trying to avoid by not telling Carlie the truth.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

^^ That's defenitely and interesting way of looking at it.

 

[Dan_Slott]

Read the latest ish last night. As always, Slott delivers, and I especially loved Camuncoli's art. Outside of the excellent inside, I especially loved "The greatest superhero in the world" tagged onto the cover title; it made everything look so old school.

On another note, from reading all of your posts, I'll have to look out for the Punisher book with the other Vulture, I bet I'd love it. :P

Thanks! Glad you liked it.

Special note:
"The World's Greatest Super Hero!" is all editor, Steve Wacker's doing. He worked behind the scenes to make that happen. I know working on something like that sounds silly-- because you're probably saying, "Can't they just slap down whatever copy they want on the cover?" But that is not the case. This was something that he had to go through proper channels, they had to make sure the tag-line wasn't taken by another comic/media, and there were other various hurdles. It was something Steve felt passionatly about, and I think it's really cool that he pulled it off!

 

[Dan_Slott]

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The thing about the Spidey and Carlie at the morgue scene is that it reminded me of the moment when...

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Having a character that's been around for just shy of 50 years is a double edged sword.
If you do something that's in character, chances are there's a similar scene in the thousands and thousands of issues that it'll remind somebody of...

Conversely, if you do something that is completely out of the blue and ventures into new territory... and it doesn't remind anyone of anything they've seen before...
...then you run the risk of them saying, "Spidey would NEVER do THAT!"

6 of 1, half dozen of the other.

 

[Spider-ManHero12]

Thanks! Glad you liked it.

Special note:
"The World's Greatest Super Hero!" is all editor, Steve Wacker's doing. He worked behind the scenes to make that happen. I know working on something like that sounds silly-- because you're probably saying, "Can't they just slap down whatever copy they want on the cover?" But that is not the case. This was something that he had to go through proper channels, they had to make sure the tag-line wasn't taken by another comic/media, and there were other various hurdles. It was something Steve felt passionatly about, and I think it's really cool that he pulled it off!

I see.

 

[Kitsune]

Having a character that's been around for just shy of 50 years is a double edged sword.
If you do something that's in character, chances are there's a similar scene in the thousands and thousands of issues that it'll remind somebody of...

Conversely, if you do something that is completely out of the blue and ventures into new territory... and it doesn't remind anyone of anything they've seen before...
...then you run the risk of them saying, "Spidey would NEVER do THAT!"

6 of 1, half dozen of the other.

Helps if you foreshadow it and build up to it, but even then you get some people who still think it's an *** pull.

 

[runawayboulder]

I always liked the non mutant super hero tagline they had back in the early 90's