Age of Ultron The Avengers 2! The Official News and Speculation Thread - Part 47

[Leenie]

I, for one, am happy to hear the early reactions about Age of Ultron being somewhat of a "darker" movie. I'm not expecting "darker," per se ... But I'm expecting the plot to be more intense than the first film. And that suits me just fine.

I still love the first Avengers movie just as much as I did back in 2012. That movie is one hell of a fun ride, which is exactly what it needed to be. I know that nowadays there's more criticism towards it due to the "simple plot." Well, yes, the plot is more simple, because I think it needed to be simpler for a first outing with The Avengers. The first movie was all about bringing the characters together, and showing their interactions with each other so that the audience is very much rewarded when the team finally starts working together and kicking butt. Now that the audience is very much on board with the idea of these characters being in the same movie, now the franchise can move onto heavier plots.

The first Avengers was what it needed to be, and I think Age of Ultron will be what it needs to be as well.

As indicated in my signature, my top 3 favorite Marvel movies so far are The Avengers, Iron Man, and Captain America: The Winter Soldier. All of these are different movies from Marvel in terms of tone, which I think is great! I welcome the different styles and tones of the Marvel films. It keeps the MCU fresh. Nobody seems to be tired of these movies so far!

 

[warhorse78]

]Good, Spider-man 2 is overrated.[/B]

Plus I'm willing to bet Avengers will be the better trilogy by far.

Wow, and I thought I was the only one. There was like only one really good scene in that movie (the stopping of the train scene and the citizens holding onto Spider-Man) but for the most part, his loss of power, the Mary Jane BS, the pity moments, bored the hell out of me. I find it to be one of the dullest comic book movies I have ever seen. Sorry, but dull does not equate great in my opinion.

 

[Overman27pj]

lol, im not here to troll. Im not some anti MCU whatever with some grudge to push either. I just want good films. Not good "comic book" movies. And I hope avengers 2 IS a good film. I just didnt think the first one was.

and not very opinion is some personal slight

Don't usually reply, but you appear pretty confused in your arguement... you don't want comic book movies that are based off comic books? The Dark Knight was pretty transcendent, but that's a once in a lifetime type of gem. Avengers stuff, and most comic stuff, with all it's color and flash, just doesn't work, or try to be the next Titanic or Ben Hur.

 

[warhorse78]

The last thing I expected to hear was that Hawkeye is so front and center. Way to make it up to Renner, lol.

I'm glad. Jeremy Renner was one of the initial reasons why I was so pumped about The Avengers to begin with. (Love Renner since I first saw him in Dahmer, and was excited as hell when I caught a glimpse of him on Thor). I would say the finale of CA:TFA is what sealed the deal for me.

But now that I know Hawkeye is going to be the scene stealer, I think I might go shopping for a Hawkeye shirt now to wear on opening night!

 

[jaqua99]

Here's a scoop, you shouldn't really listen to what this ****ing guy says most of the time haha.

Some times his scoops are accurate

I guess we got all this to deal with & show in the span of just under 2 1/2 hours:

-HYDRA battling/runoff with scepter
-Avengers getting fatigued
-Ultron creation/story
-Twins story/flipping sides
-Vision's creation/story
-Interpersonal team dynamics collapsing
-Increased Hawkeye role
-Fury's reintroduction
-Hulk/Widow subplot
-Wakanda/Klaue
-Whatever Dr. Cho is doing
-Alleged Asgard material/Thor going there "for answers"
-Hulkbuster fight & repercussions

So we shall see how all the plates keep spinning. And tying together. And resolving. You never know with Marvel's movies, but they tend to be turn out more straightforward than they first appear based on trailers & info.

Well I think this movie is going to be more complicated than the above. If anything I feel the trailers and early info are more straightforward than the film seems to be.

 

[MahvelBaby!]

lol, im not here to troll. Im not some anti MCU whatever with some grudge to push either. I just want good films. Not good "comic book" movies. And I hope avengers 2 IS a good film. I just didnt think the first one was.

and not very opinion is some personal slight

You didn't word your original comment as an opinion, you worded it as if it were fact which is rule no.1 in the passive aggressive troll handbook lmao, now if you would have said IMO Avengers was not a good film you may have actually pulled it off without a hitch...but you got cocky slipped up and made your true nature reveal itself. not too late to update it and trick those who are behind in the thread.

 

[Lorus]

For me personally, I have the most fun when I'm on the edge during intense scenes and reveling in the moments unspooling on screen. When Cap is blown back hundreds of feet by a grenade launched by Bucky at him, I giggle like a schoolgirl. When Nick Fury waits till the last second and unleashes his jeep-gun, all the while hanging on for dear life, I grin from ear to ear. The same applies to character moments like Cap and Nat in the car together interacting in a more substantial way than they got to in Avengers. That's all fun to me, because I'm satisfied by the filmmaking and writing and know I'm just having a great time in a theater. Maybe TWS doesn't have the lightest tone, but that doesn't mean it isn't as "fun". But that's just me, and I know it's not the same way other people tend to describe movies as fun.

Oh yeah, and the sheer weirdness of the Zola scene amidst all the conspiracy-thriller stuff is also a blast. t:

You see, for me, the Russos were employing a specific style of visceral action shooting which seems designed to make you wince as someone gets hit, and feel the impact of a well timed blow. I feel that this inherently detracts somewhat from the fun because you're kind of viscerally feeling the pain, you know?

Whedon, meanwhile, seems to frame and shoot things with an eye toward emphasising the unreality and the awe of everything which I find a lot more fun. Both styles work gangbusters for their respective film of course, and I see where you're coming from (I do love those Raid films!) but I just think back to the pure joy of "I'm always angry" or the tracking shot and the size of my grin starts to cause me pain!

I'm a big fan of TWS, but I must say I'll be a bit disappointed if the Russos adopt the same aesthetic for their Avengers films as they did for TWS.

 

[marvelrobbins]

Hearing age of ultron is indeed darker film than first film makes me excited.My favorate MCU film has been winter Soldier.So reports of it being darker excite me.

SInce it's joss whedon writing and directing of course there will be lighter stuff as well.But if you seen serenity or his tv shows you know he can go dark but still have lighter elements around.

 

[TheVision]

Well if a psychotic robot wanted to destroy The Avengers and humanity, I think things would be a bit darker in tone than just some aliens coming through a wormhole and shooting lasers. That actually seems pretty light hearted compared to Ultrons plan.

 

[Pond]

Has this been posted yet?

[YT]watch?v=u3hhKDKY-6A[/YT]

 

[Loki882]

There's also this tendency on of some people to hate on a popular film/TV show/book/whatever BECAUSE it's really popular. You'd be surprise (and probably highly disappointed) at how many times I hear complaints that essentially amount to "I'm annoyed that this is so popular, and tired of hearing it talked about praised/so that's why I don't like it." I find attitudes like that to be rather pathetic honestly.

And YES, we've had "revised" opinions about TDK over the years. They seem to in no way represent the majority opinion (just like the "revised" Avengers opinions don't either), but they are there nonetheless.

 

[Loden Greatstorm]

Has this been posted yet?

[YT]watch?v=u3hhKDKY-6A[/YT]

Thanks for posting.

 

[take3]

Has this been posted yet?

[YT]watch?v=u3hhKDKY-6A[/YT]

they must have the b-cam on all the time, why is almost none of that ending up on the dvds/blu rays
:frustrating:

 

[warhorse78]

Nice list. It's interesting that many of those attending the screening have mentioned that there's lots happening in the movie. It's hard to determine from such small messages if this is positive or negative though.

Could be a positive. With so much going on, people are more likely to come back for second or third screenings, that way they can focus on stuff they never really got a chance to the first time around. I remember doing that alot with the LOTR films, with all the different directions and characters that they had going on. Especially the final fight in ROTK.

 

[Talion]

All I have to say that I think that while it's great to have the validation of the critics about the films of the genre we love, especially something as huge as The Avengers, I feel that this film's first reactions indicate that while we'll have a LOT of praise coming from the more "geeky" corner of the movie critics, I feel that we'll get some criticism as well from those that will say that there's too much things going on and that it's a set up for the next films.

I don't think I've ever been this nervous for a release of a film, but I'm one of those that think that Thor: Dark World and Iron Man 2 were unfairly criticized for setting up what's next for the MCU, so I'll be my own reviewer. The best part is that few of my favorite reviewers have already expressed positive views on the film, so I'll be my own reviewer coming April, 24th, two weeks from now.

 

[Leenie]

There's also this tendency on of some people to hate on a popular film/TV show/book/whatever BECAUSE it's really popular. You'd be surprise (and probably highly disappointed) at how many times I hear complaints that essentially amount to "I'm annoyed that this is so popular, and tired of hearing it talked about praised/so that's why I don't like it." I find attitudes like that to be rather pathetic honestly.

And YES, we've had "revised" opinions about TDK over the years. They seem to in no way represent the majority opinion (just like the "revised" Avengers opinions don't either), but they are there nonetheless.

I've always hated that mentality. I call it the "Special Little Snowflake Syndrome." Lots of people who hate on popular things just do it to prove they're "cool," or something. Whatever.

People can like what they like or dislike what they dislike, but it's hard for me to get my head wrapped around the idea changing or revising one's opinions about something like The Avengers or The Dark Knight. They're both great movies. It kind of makes me scratch my head and ask, "Do you enjoy anything?"

 

[Matt Mortem]

Has this been posted yet?

[YT]watch?v=u3hhKDKY-6A[/YT]

Damn I love B-Roll

 

[Sharkboy]

To go one further, I have the very unpopular opinion where things like The Dark Knight Trilogy are more fun than Avengers. Tastes are funny like that.

I agree, and i still think generally speaking TDK is probably the most beloved cbm film of all time. Anyway I think that's why it will be very very hard for TWS to be topped as my favourite marvel film (yes...marvel not just mcu) because TWS's hard edged tone reminds me so much of TDK, and that's just my kinda flick as opposed to the Avengers/GOTG type "fun poppy stuff" Heck that's why my most anticipated MCU thing this year has been Daredevil.

My hope for Avengers 2 was always to be that one film to perfectly mix both the Avengers/gotg style and the TDK/TWS style, I've never been much of an Avengers 1 fan, plot felt lacking and the film just feels more and more hollow with rewatches, so if this new film has that filling to go with it's beautiful shell, then we MAY be on the cusp of the perfect superhero film with Avengers 2.

Hows that for overhype

 

[Barchiel]

The first Avengers was good, but TWS had the best tone. The first Iron Man had a good tone too, but TWS felt like there was something at stake; it had depth. GotG had too many damn corny jokes and nothing felt like there was something to lose.

I hope Avengers 2 is closer to TWS or Iron Man. TWS was fun and you can have 'fun' without being corny.

 

[MahvelBaby!]

I forgot Stellan Skarsgard was even in this movie lol

https://youtu.be/GTnm5nE7qck

 

[Pond]

I dont think there is much of a need of making lists. To me, GOG, TWS AND AVENGERS are amazing films, very different, unique on theyre own, offering an imprerssive range for Marvel, and thats more or less it. One reason i dont care about the oscars is... why choose? Its art, not a horse race.

Nothing against people who like lists. Just not my thing.

 

[Snow Queen]

I agree, and i still think generally speaking TDK is probably the most beloved cbm film of all time. Anyway I think that's why it will be very very hard for TWS to be topped as my favourite marvel film (yes...marvel not just mcu) because TWS's hard edged tone reminds me so much of TDK, and that's just my kinda flick as opposed to the Avengers/GOTG type "fun poppy stuff" Heck that's why my most anticipated MCU thing this year has been Daredevil.

My hope for Avengers 2 was always to be that one film to perfectly mix both the Avengers/gotg style and the TDK/TWS style, I've never been much of an Avengers 1 fan, plot felt lacking and the film just feels more and more hollow with rewatches, so if this new film has that filling to go with it's beautiful shell, then we MAY be on the cusp of the perfect superhero film with Avengers 2.

Hows that for overhype

I agree. I wasn't particularly interested in this one a few months ago due to my negative thoughts on the first, but as more info has come out, the film has sounded more interesting at least as far as the plot goes. I have my fingers crossed that I'll enjoy this one at least, or at the very least I'd like to not have such a drastically unpopular opinion on it like Avengers and Guardians.

 

[MahvelBaby!]

I dont think there is much of a need of making lists. To me, GOG, TWS AND AVENGERS are amazing films, very different, unique on theyre own, offering an imprerssive range for Marvel, and thats more or less it. One reason i dont care about the oscars is... why choose? Its art, not a horse race.

Nothing against people who like lists. Just not my thing.

Agree 1,000%

 

[BoredGuy]

I agree. I wasn't particularly interested in this one a few months ago due to my negative thoughts on the first, but as more info has come out, the film has sounded more interesting at least as far as the plot goes. I have my fingers crossed that I'll enjoy this one at least, or at the very least I'd like to not have such a drastically unpopular opinion on it like Avengers and Guardians.

I am so sorry for you
nothing will ever match the feeling for me of walking out of Avengers
I hope one day you can feel feelings like joy t:

 

[warhorse78]

So, how come The Schmoes got invited to the screening, but JeremyJahns did not?