Age of Ultron The Avengers 2! The Official News and Speculation Thread - - - Part 49

[InCali]

Probably because the main character is male so it's geared to that character's POV and fantasy and that of the male audience to which it's geared. The love interest becomes the "prize". The reverse happens a lot in romance novels because those books are geared to a primarily female audience where the man is usually the prize (in terms of looks, intelligence, wealth etc).

As for Steve Rogers, he loved Peggy Carter so it's hard to see how his taste could be bettered, she's magnificent.

WRT, Carter, agreed, unless maybe she wore glasses and worked in a library or was a school teacher t:; although I must say I LOVED how Carter tested Caps shield in TFA after Natalie Dormer latched onto him. Ya gotta love someone who takes her job so seriously. He sure didn't make THAT mistake again.

Carter rocks.....strong and smart. Perfect.

 

[InCali]

Man. Sucks that AoU is trying to be overshadowed near release. Does not help with underwhelming/annoying reactions for this film and amazing trailers from others.

I wouldn't worry about that. Let's see what the BO is for opening weekend. It is going to crush and destroy. No worries. Don't sweat the small stuff.

 

[Spitfire]

Probably because the main character is male so it's geared to that character's POV and fantasy and that of the male audience to which it's geared. The love interest becomes the "prize". The reverse happens a lot in romance novels because those books are geared to a primarily female audience where the man is usually the prize (in terms of looks, intelligence, wealth etc).

So very true. I look forward to the day the MCU shows a nerdy female character dating a gorgeous guy 17 years her junior. I think my wait will be a long one.

 

[InCali]

Speaking of BO numbers. To all of you $@%^ who have been throwing the fact that you'll be seeing it a week earlier in our faces than those of us bordered by the Pacific and Atlantic Oceans, when do you get the BO numbers? I think Box Office Mojo generally takes about a week to get those out. Do you get weekend numbers early the next week? Weekend estimates on Sunday afternoon? If so, let us know what they are and how they compare to other blockbuster movies.

I'm trying to think of some snarky comment about all of you because I'm pissed I have to wait another week, but I just can't think of anything at the moment. Hopefully, I'll have something for you all soon.

 

[Mjölnir]

I can see what you're saying. DD "is" a smaller (and I don't mean small with any negative connotations), personal story and was very well done and that certainly has its appeal. I can also see liking the hardworking, honest attorney (and despite popular opinion, such a beast exists in real life) persona over the billionaire playboy persona (although that wasn't who BM really was).

However, DD fighting better than BM is, again IMO, HIGHLY debatable. True, he didn't have all of BM's widgets (or armor), but he was (almost) constantly getting the living crap kicked out of him and by people that I think BM would have handled with relative ease. The case where he just barely escaped from Fisk stands out in my mind.

Finally, I can understand people not liking (or getting tired of) Bale's "monster" voice (Kedrell, are you out there? t, but one of the things that struck me what how much DD's voice often had that same "monster" tone to it. It was what actually got me to thinking about how similar the stories were. Like DD was an MCU BM (or vice versa, but BM did come first).

Anyway, interesting perspective and (mostly ) stuff I can see....

EDIT: Shoot, sorry.....I was thinking this was the DD thread.

On the fighting aspect it's possible that he didn't mean how powerful the characters are but how good the fight scenes are. Imo the fighting is a weaker point of the TDK trilogy while I think Daredevil does a great job with it.

I can't really judge the two yet as I'm still watching Daredevil (portioning it out until Wednesday, when I get to see Age of Ultron), while the TDK trilogy hasn't had great rewatchability for me so I kind of enjoy those movies a bit less than when they came out. I like Daredevil more right now, but it's not a fair comparison and certainly subject to change, although at least neither of the heroes are favorites of mine from the comics (I have read both though) so there's nothing of that sort of bias.

The best part this far for me has been Wilson Fisk. Arguably a villain with more character depth than in any superhero movie. Matt Murdoch is also played very well.

 

[TheVision]

The fighting in Daredevil vs Batman is NOT up for debate. DD wins. Lets not even go there.

The direction in The Dark Knight films vs Daredevil: One is a film about a billionaire vigilante vs a Netflix series about a guy from Hells Kitchen who lives in a dank bachelor pad.

(How many fn helicopter shots moving towards a tall building does Nolan need?)

Villains: Batman had some decent villains but D'Onofrio's Kingpin is one of the best MCU so far. So he can def stand with Joker & Co. He doesnt need makeup and some outrageous persona to do it. He acts, thats it.

Supporting cast: Foggy, Claire, Karen, Ben, Owlsley etc are every bit as good as the ones in TDK movies.

Daredevil Vs Batman: I prefer Charlie as Matt/DD over Bale as Bruce/Batman. The character is cooler/more relatable in every way and doesnt need a monster Bat voice to be intimidating or tough.

 

[Spitfire]

Speaking of BO numbers. To all of you $@%^ who have been throwing the fact that you'll be seeing it a week earlier than those of us bordered by the Pacific and Atlantic Oceans, when do you get the BO number? I think Box Office Mojo generally takes about a week to get those out. Do you get weekend numbers early the next week? Weekend estimates on Sunday afternoon? If so, let us know what they are and how they compare to other blockbuster movies.

I'm trying to think of some snarky comment about all of you because I'm pissed I have to wait another week, but I just can't think of anything at the moment. Hopefully, I'll have something for you all soon.

I expect something in the UK press on Sunday if the numbers are very good. Need to wait to see the UK reviews as a lot of people will base their decision on this - GOTG did amazingly well here due to the reviews and word of mouth.

Interestingly the cinema in my town hasn't sold many tickets for the first showings. The cinemas in two nearby cities have sold more but are not sold out. I think many have said their local cinemas have sold out in the US? I think the US is Marvels strongest market by far.

 

[superboy13]

Yeah.....kind of screams "Chuck"; although I don't really see Banner as the nerdy type per se.

Speaking of Chuck, chuck this out...

http://www.ew.com/article/2013/03/15/zachary-levi-chuck-movie

It's funny (funny odd and not funny haha) how these nerdy roles seem to, generally, work one way and I'm not sure why. Yvonne Strahovski (gasp....) falls for nerdy Chuck/Zachary Levi (who is actually quite a good looking guy with a tremendous on screen personality), but you don't see it working the other way. If I were Captain America, I would totally fall for some smart nerd; probably before some gorgeous jaw dropper. Don't understand why that doesn't seem to happen in movies. Maybe they don't think there are enough men out there who like smart nerdy types???

Captain Hammer.

 

[obredaan]

http://www.followingthenerd.com/mov...-avengers-age-of-ultron/#sthash.md6kVj9W.dpbs

not sure if this has been posted. .another review!

there is no rating though.

This movie is going to own. I'm sure the trolls will ignore this glowing review but this is all I needed to hear.

An alarming amount of people have been asking me if the Avengers: Age of Ultron was good, genuinely nervous that it was going to be underwhelming. Considering what fabulous work Disney have done so far, if this film was bad it would’ve been like watching my country of choice falling to Hydra. Fortunately the film wipes the floor with every one of the previous films.

 

[InCali]

The fighting in Daredevil vs Batman is NOT up for debate. DD wins. Lets not even go there.

If you mean the fight scenes as opposed to the ability of the character, I won't argue with you about that; not because I necessarily agree with you, but just because it's not a right or wrong question (IMO). Can't agree about the villain (no matter how good a job I think d'Onofrio did and I think it was very good.... a real person who is conflicted and falls back into a pattern he can't escape....a tragic character really). Who was better is, again, up to the individual taste of the person experiencing the movie. I was completely shocked and blown away by Ledger as Joker and had no issue with him getting an Oscar (though he certainly had some sympathy support, think about what it takes to even get nominated let alone win an Oscar).

OK. Enough for me. I'll be interested to see what the overseas numbers are for AoU and how they compare to other big releases (TA, TWS, etc.).

 

[TheVision]

Heath Ledger was my favorite actor in TDK trilogy. That performance was better than anything else to me.

One thing most of the villains in TDK films truly suck at: Fighting. Joker, Scarecrow, Two Face, mobsters got their asses kicked. Bane was tough but he was a big oaf compared to Daredevil and the ninjas. So he kinda sucks too. Kingpin doesnt have a crazy getup but he will stomp ass until the people are hamburger.

ok, back to AOU biz!

 

[TalismanRing]

Speaking of BO numbers. To all of you $@%^ who have been throwing the fact that you'll be seeing it a week earlier in our faces than those of us bordered by the Pacific and Atlantic Oceans, when do you get the BO numbers? I think Box Office Mojo generally takes about a week to get those out. Do you get weekend numbers early the next week? Weekend estimates on Sunday afternoon? If so, let us know what they are and how they compare to other blockbuster movies.

I'm trying to think of some snarky comment about all of you because I'm pissed I have to wait another week, but I just can't think of anything at the moment. Hopefully, I'll have something for you all soon.

Early box office numbers from foreign territories for films this size get reported almost the day of in places like Deadline, Variety, Hollywood Reporter and box office forums like http://forums.boxofficetheory.com

For instance, in terms of South Korea it's already reported that it's broken the pre-sales record days before opening and as of today accounts for 93% of all tickets sold. In a country with a 50m population it's projected to sell up to (and maybe surpass) 4m admissions this weekend.

 

[Lorus]

I'd be interested to know if any of my fellow comrades in the UK are seeing much promotion for this? I'm not trying to say the sky is falling down or anything, but the marketing seems almost non existent at the moment. I haven't seen anything on the TV advertising it, while I remember seeing at least a couple a day for TWS and GOTG, even Daredevil seems to have more of a presence right now. This is just my personal experience though, I may be way off.

 

[yllum]

I'm gonna see it in 3 days..will update u guys on how good the film is....from the perspective of a fanboy..haha

 

[Spitfire]

I'd be interested to know if any of my fellow comrades in the UK are seeing much promotion for this? I'm not trying to say the sky is falling down or anything, but the marketing seems almost non existent at the moment. I haven't seen anything on the TV advertising it, while I remember seeing at least a couple a day for TWS and GOTG, even Daredevil seems to have more of a presence right now. This is just my personal experience though, I may be way off.

No you are not alone with this opinion. I have seen zero TV adverts and only seen articles in magazines and websites. I'm also surprised that the 21st April embargo (unlike France and Germany) has been kept for the UK which only leaves a few days until release. I usually read about movies the weekend before release in the Sunday newspapers - I think FF7 reviews were released a week beforehand?

Not being a Chicken Licken either, but am a bit surprised.

 

[Iceman]

No you are not alone with this opinion. I have seen zero TV adverts and only seen articles in magazines and websites. I'm also surprised that the 21st April embargo (unlike France and Germany) has been kept for the UK which only leaves a few days until release. I usually read about movies the weekend before release in the Sunday newspapers - I think FF7 reviews were released a week beforehand?

Not being a Chicken Licken either, but am a bit surprised.

Not seeing much either. The UK media seems to be oblivious. I've seen Scarlett featured in the papers and they mentioned some other project, no mention of the sequel to the $1.5B film coming out in a week's time.

 

[Lorus]

No you are not alone with this opinion. I have seen zero TV adverts and only seen articles in magazines and websites. I'm also surprised that the 21st April embargo (unlike France and Germany) has been kept for the UK which only leaves a few days until release. I usually read about movies the weekend before release in the Sunday newspapers - I think FF7 reviews were released a week beforehand?

Not being a Chicken Licken either, but am a bit surprised.

It is a bit odd. Perhaps the marketing machine will go into overdrive on the release date? I remember reading somewhere that the UK seems to have less of an appetite for superheroes on the TV, some shows not being aired at all over here. Perhaps this opinion has affected the marketing in some way.

 

[InCali]

Early box office numbers from foreign territories for films this size get reported almost the day of in places like Deadline, Variety, Hollywood Reporter and box office forums like http://forums.boxofficetheory.com

For instance, in terms of South Korea it's already reported that it's broken the pre-sales record days before opening and as of today accounts for 93% of all tickets sold. In a country with a 50m population it's projected to sell up to (and maybe surpass) 4m admissions this weekend.

Cool. Thanks. That's why I like hanging out with people who know more than I do. I get to learn things.

The TCL Chinese IMAX programming people are just killin' me (and I KNOW it's intentional and targeted at me). They just creep up on the dates of the shows. Right now, they're stopping at April 29.....the day before AoU will first show. Then, I'm sure they'll show the 30th shows soon (which I won't be going to) and then make me wait for another week before letting me know the showtimes on May 1.

They ought to be jailed and this cruel and unusual punishment, prohibited by the constitution, has got to stop.

 

[Spitfire]

It is a bit odd. Perhaps the marketing machine will go into overdrive on the release date? I remember reading somewhere that the UK seems to have less of an appetite for superheroes on the TV, some shows not being aired at all over here. Perhaps this opinion has affected the marketing in some way.

You may be right. It's odd when you compare the UK marketing to that in the US which has been crazy. The reviews in France and Germany have been mixed and the two Irish reviews released early by mistake were average. Maybe Marvel don't think the UK press will like the movie?

 

[take3]

i don't think there is much overlap with this forum, but tumblr is already spoiling the movie all over the place. without tagging it.

 

[TheVision]

Be careful young padawan.

 

[InCali]

You may be right. It's odd when you compare the UK marketing to that in the US which has been crazy. The reviews in France and Germany have been mixed and the two Irish reviews released early by mistake were average. Maybe Marvel don't think the UK press will like the movie?

OK. This is for all of you who are worried about reviews, marketing, and so on. I'm calling it now. $675M (US) and $1.2B (OS) for a total of $1.875B. Passes Titanic in both categories (initial release) and puts Avengers at # 2 and 3 all-time in US (not counting re-releases). I think it's going to be HUGE in southeast Asia.

I'm going to see it at the Cinemark XD after the IMAX showing so I can compare the two.

There.....someone had to do it.

 

[InCali]

i don't think there is much overlap with this forum, but tumblr is already spoiling the movie all over the place. without tagging it.

@$$#0!es.

I already read a spoiler on a link on this thread that wasn't tagged. I'm not sure if it's true or not, but I hope people will keep reviews off this thread (if they have spoilers).

 

[Ms. Marvel]

You may be right. It's odd when you compare the UK marketing to that in the US which has been crazy. The reviews in France and Germany have been mixed and the two Irish reviews released early by mistake were average. Maybe Marvel don't think the UK press will like the movie?

I've only seen two German reviews, both have been really good.

 

[blake c]

Does anyone have links for reviews? I can't find any.