Captain Marvel The Captain Marvel User Review Thread (TAG SPOILERS!!!)

I enjoyed it a lot. I loved seeing Carol powered up and although
it wasn't til the last 15 mins, the pay off was worth the wait.

No it wasn't ground-breaking and it wasn't as "big" as I thought it was going to be. I thought it was going to be more epic and galactic (the beginning was promising on that front) but it felt a bit like Thor 1 with most of the action taking place on Earth.

Seeing a younger Fury was great. He was less serious and had more of a fun side which was lovely to see. Despite that, he still felt like the same man we see later on.

Brie was solid. She was quite stoic but she brought more layers to the character as the movie went on and she began to discover who she really is. Will be interesting to hear her explanation as to why she's been MIA for over 20 years!

Goose was the best part for me (and I think the whole cinema I was in) I want a Goose mini series immediately.
 
6/10.

A mediocre, dull, boring, and underwhelming mess of a movie with stilted dialogue delivery, forced cutesy moments and jokes, 90s' cliched lingo, a thin plot, uneven origin story, a butchering of the Skrulls and Kree and once again Ronan the Accuser and Korath are brutally underused.

After 20 films, Marvel's 21st film feels like the MCU might be retreading on old ground and running out of gas.
 
I enjoyed it a lot. I loved seeing Carol powered up and although
it wasn't til the last 15 mins, the pay off was worth the wait.

No it wasn't ground-breaking and it wasn't as "big" as I thought it was going to be. I thought it was going to be more epic and galactic (the beginning was promising on that front) but it felt a bit like Thor 1 with most of the action taking place on Earth.

Seeing a younger Fury was great. He was less serious and had more of a fun side which was lovely to see. Despite that, he still felt like the same man we see later on.

Brie was solid. She was quite stoic but she brought more layers to the character as the movie went on and she began to discover who she really is. Will be interesting to hear her explanation as to why she's been MIA for over 20 years!

Goose was the best part for me (and I think the whole cinema I was in) I want a Goose mini series immediately.

In the scene from Endgame showed for Disney shareholders, she said other planets don't have Avengers so she was helping them.
 
Watched the movie last night and would rate it 6/10. IMO, not a great Marvel movie, but I wouldn't say it was terrible either. My spoiler-free thoughts:

My biggest issue was that I felt Brie Larson was miscast. As someone who "grew up" on X-Men TAS and Avengers EMH (the latter of which had a definitive Captain Marvel IMO), I simply couldn't get past Brie Larson's voice. She totally lacked the commanding vocal tone that Jennifer Hale had, and at no point was I convinced that she was an air force major in a past life. Additionally, she came across unconvincing as a superhero, and where other MCU actors have been given their reasons for doing their superheroics, there was no explanation here as to why Carol Danvers became a superhero and it mostly just came across as "because she's supposed to be a superhero, dammit!".

The other issue I had with the movie was Jude Law's character. More specifically, what I mean is that you don't cast Jude Law in an MCU movie and NOT have him play Mar-Vell! Granted, Jude Law was great in his role anyway, but I'm pretty sure most fans would've preferred to see him as Mar-Vell, because I certainly did.

But mostly this just felt like a standard MCU movie with nothing that was really special or standout. Some of the CG was iffy, the music wasn't memorable, and for me the lead actress was just unconvincing. Although the movie had plenty of nostalgic moments for me (I grew up in the 90s and caught a ton of references from the music, movies, and computer technology), none of that really helped to make the movie compelling. For me this movie was about on level with the first Thor, and in some ways it also reminded me of DC's Green Lantern movie from 2011. I hope Carol Danvers' appearance in Avengers Endgame turns out to be better than in this movie!
 
Is this movie really average or is it just MCU fatigue?
3 movies a year can cause wear and tear on the general audience.
 
Is this movie really average or is it just MCU fatigue?
3 movies a year can cause wear and tear on the audience.
You're in luck, there's only two movies next year and it'll be 10 months between Far From Home and the next one
 
You're in luck, there's only two movies next year and it'll be 10 months between Far From Home and the next one

Ugh, don’t remind me! I could never get MCU fatigue: I need constant Marvelous content every few months.
 
Is this movie really average or is it just MCU fatigue?
3 movies a year can cause wear and tear on the general audience.
Don't think it's fatigue. It's mostly down to the movie just wasn't that good and I think the standards that the MCU has raised is a big factor to how we see the newer films. I think if this was released like in Phase 1, this would be better received.
 
Saw this Fri. morning but was too tired to get to posting my take Sat. (Work nights and was up for three days straight in the AM to afternoon so was too tuckered Fri. night to write something).

Like I stated before... I didn't see the film some around here are describing... But neither am did I see THE GREATEST THING EVER.

I for sure would NOT put this in the category of a mediocre Marvel Studios effort (And... There's more of them than Marvel fans care to admit to if they were honest... Sorry but the truth hurts sometimes.) but it wasn't in the class of say an INFINITY WAR or WINTER SOLDIER either. Still it was fast paced and entertaining and the characters were engaging. I thought the action was on point and they handled this introductory adventure well while understandably building towards the character's big super human action scene, which I suspected given how powerful Danvers is. The light touches are there and with the exception of one or two moments in the film aren't grating. Neither was the "90's shoutouts" which were again, thankfully, done with restraint and popped up where they felt natural rather than forced. Like many, MANY Marvel films the emphasis is on the protagonist and the villains are more in service to the lead hero's story than being all that fully formed themselves but it worked here and was fine though there was some good work with one of the villainous characters as a different kind of obstacle to Danvers. Actually, a bit of a surprise with how they did handle some well known villains. I will get into it with the spoilers but I can't agree this was on the same tier as say First Avenger or Thor1. While perhaps an all over stronger film than Capt. Marvel, I would even say that this did some things better than the first Iron Man, certainly the extended action finale was better here than in some other Marvel films.

I thought this was a strong first outing for Carol and there is still stuff to be explored with her and the cast of other characters involved with the story by the end of the movie so there's potential going forward.

More in depth (read SPOILER FILLED) views below:


Okay let's get this out of the way... Brie Larson is fine as Carol Danvers/Capt. Marvel. I don't know what people wanted from her that they didn't get from the trailers but I see comments STILL that she's somehow dull or has dull line readings. She's more deadpan than dull and it's quite apparent. She's a character that doesn't have a history but she has a fully formed personality. The film simply illustrates how this personality operates under two different circumstances. And this personality is one where she's got tons of dry wit, is confident in herself and is willing to take risks regardless of what others think of her. The struggle is one where she's vulnerable because due to her amnesia she doesn't REALLY know who she is. Which I found interesting. Jude Law as Yon-Rogg was a different spin on an antagonist in that his whole role is about holding Carol back. His concern with her revolves around keeping her in check so she can be used within the confines of the Kree agenda. This gets into the theme of the film, that you have to know who you are first before you can wield your own power effectively. The resolution between Rogg and Carol is pitch perfect and I thought was actually, despite his utter defeat, a good call on Rogg's part initially. He was outclassed power wise but he figured there might be some gas in the tank still with his mentor/authority figure influence over Carol.

Now... That's not to say that there isn't an issue with the writing and performance of Carol as played by Brie but it's not the one you are hearing, at least, not precisely I don't think. Brie is more than fine in this part. She's in that Han Solo/Hal Jordan mold of the confident hot shot filled with dry wit and sarcastic come backs. This is in most ways not at all out of line with what a live action Carol Danvers should be. If anything I think we should have gotten maybe a bit more vulnerability from Brie at some points. No, the issue for me, and for me it's minor though it's an bigger issue for Marvel in general, is that this isn't exactly groundbreaking or new in the MCU. I'm sorry to all the Marvel heads out there but if you were "bored" by Carol, I have a feeling it's because she speaks in a voice that the majority of Marvel Studios' heroes already do. Whatever distinctions you think are apparent between so many MCU characters is more cosmetic than anything. Sure there are some specific aspects of character that belong to each one but in broad strokes how many MCU heroes don't fall into the "Brimming with confidence to the point of coming off borderline arrogant/off putting, fast with the glib sarcastic one liners, ultimately revealed to be a good person despite a facile and flippant exterior"?Whether that's the majority of characters as one sees it or not... There's still a crap metric ton of characters in the MCU that could easily be thought of to fall into that description. Maybe that doesn't quite describe Steve Rogers, Black Panther or Peter Parker, but it certainly describes Iron Man, Star-Lord, Dr. Strange, Thor, hell I throw even Black Widow, Hawkeye and Ant-Man into that pile. If the general thrust of Carol as written or Brie's performance didn't wow someone I have to ask if they should consider that it might be because you've seen this all before in a Marvel film? That it's a woman doing the schtick now is the only real difference.

What's funny is that I think this archetype fit Carol better than it did some of those other characters. To me her deadpan sarcastic wit totally felt right given what we shown of her character. I LOVED that while she was in situation that was bat guano crazy they didn't go with some tired "fish out of water" thing. If anything this was about a fish going BACK to the water, so to speak, so there's nothing gained by giving us scenes of her acclimating to Earth society. And besides, she was being employed by the Kree as an operative for over six years going from place to place one can assume. So she's found herself on stranger worlds than Earth so her being unfazed was not only cool but it makes sense.

The inclusion of Jackson as Fury was very welcome and they get her and him together rather quickly, but it works from the get go. And it was very nice to see Fury "in his prime" so to speak. They wrote him in a way that made you see the fictional master spy he's always touted as. Brie and Jackson had good chemistry and they threaded the needle well in terms of how these two would react to one another.


I think the movie is one of the better paced superhero movies in that it doesn't waste any time getting you into the action, which works well since the building of the audience's understanding of Carol is threaded through the film rather than starting with a lengthy first act designed to give us the main character's backstory or somesuch. Which I find refreshing. This indeed allowed us to go full tilt right off the bat with what I though were very well done action sequences, another complaint I don't at all recognize from the film, because the Star Force introductory scene is damn tight and the action was clear and easy to follow for me. From her capture to the landing on doesn't drag and then we are already into the thick of the main plot. Carol is on Earth, she's on a mission and is awaiting extraction and this will eventually dovetail into her unknown past.

Making the Skrulls, or at least the Skrulls we meet here sympathetic is not at all quite what I expected. Granted this is kind of a nutshell history between the two races as described in the comics. And I think there is more than enough wiggle room to bring them back in the MCU in a more villainous role. They gave us lines that hinted as much with Talos talking about how his own hands are far from clean in the conflict between the Kree and his people. There's also the fact that the Skrulls are looking for "a home" and while this group might be simply "refugees" that's hardly defining of the race as a whole or indicative of what their rulers/ruling class think. Then there's just me thinking about how some things from the comics get introduced into the MCU and I don't know... The Skrull home planet does get destroyed by Galactus, whom I am confident will be seen in an FF MCU film. Before release I was very confident that this movie would be used to "back door pilot" the elements that would be used in a Secret Invasion arc post the Infinity Stones mega arc being wrapped up post Endgame. Now? I'm a lot less sure. Could they still do that? Yeah, I think they could EASILY still do that. The question is would Marvel now that they've established the Skrulls in the minds of the mass audience in such a sympathetic light?


Regardless of the placement of this film in the MCU on it's own this was a very solid and I found, fun action romp that did very little to undermine itself with humor which, I'm sorry, I do have a problem with far too often with these films. The one in my mind EGREGIOUS example of the Marvel Studios injection of humor where it's not at all needed was the reveal of Fury's eye and the "hyping" of the Goose character. Full disclosure I was aware of the alien nature of Goose from the start so the reveal didn't work for me as surprise thing so it's already less impactful than it could be, though that's not the film's fault I suppose. But the cat for the most part is... It's ****ing cat. Big deal. And then at the end we get the most awkward reasoning for Fury to have lost an eye, and is it just me but... Fury sure doesn't act all that affected by it. It's a perfect example of how the humor in these films too often undercuts EVERYTHING. Here it undercuts the seriousness and stakes they had built up and it undercuts Fury's character and it just makes no sense. Did he even ATTEMPT to get something done about the eye? And all for what? A joke at the end with Coulson. The film was doing SO good reigning grating tendencies of MCU films in only to fumble right at the end for me. Other than that though... This was a superhero tale running on all cylinders. It had a breezy pacing and never left you bored or impatient. Nothing felt like filler and I thought it really delivered on the third act action finale, neither being too abrupt nor overstaying it's welcome.


Some final stray observations, both pros and cons which fall more in the nitpick category:


Cons-

1. They needed to give us just a bit more insight into the Kree society. Sure... We can infer a lot by the way the Supreme Intelligence was some kind of Techno God to these aliens but maybe just a bit more to put things into a bigger context, even if it was a misdirect given the film is about the reveal of how Carol is being used and lied to by the Kree.

2. Uh... Why was Come As You Are being played in Carol's mind? I know... Nitpick. Still... It was a flub to do that given she left Earth in 1989.

3. There needed to be WAY more scenes between Carol and Lawson/Mar-Vell. This was a big misstep for me. I honestly couldn't care less that they gender swapped Marv in this... But I think if you are going to keep the idea that this person inspired Carol and had a lot of influence on her that you needed much, MUCH more of this relationship.

Pros-

1. Given that there is still lots to explore with the character and what was introduced it was nice to see that the supporting cast of characters was mostly all intact by the end of the film. I would love to see rematched all around. Hell... Bring Minnerva back to life, why not? Rogg is certainly not done with Carol and there might still be room for a Skrull heel turn as it were. (In fact, not to bring up any Marvel/DC nonsense BUT... I think you could do with Carol what is being done with WW at WB. Have Carol's solo films be in the past. There's no need to have her in the the present day and you side step a bunch of issues. In the Avengers films proper you can have her in the here and now. Best of both worlds. )

2. The Stan Lee tribute was epic and his inclusion in what I assume is the last cameo we will see quite bittersweet. Still though... To think that he was able to live long enough to see what Marvel has become and was so appreciated by so many at the end is heartwarming.

In the end I found this film delivers on everything I want from a Marvel super hero movie and it didn't go out of it's way to often to do the things I honestly find grating in a Marvel super hero movie. While not THE BEST THING EVER!!!!!! it's also more than merely serviceable or just good. It's pretty DAMN good.

BS, pulled from my anal canal number rating? A solid 8 to 8.5 out of 10.
 
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Is this movie really average or is it just MCU fatigue?
3 movies a year can cause wear and tear on the general audience.

I don't know, as someone who has not really liked an MCU movie since Iron Man 3 until Black Panther, and someone who genuinely hates Infinity War, I really liked Captain Marvel.
 
Voted 8. I liked despite all those alien space stuff going on, the message is very much human. It could benefit from a more straight foward story telling approach.
 
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I have to say I like it a lot more upon the second viewing. My initial reaction was lukewarm. The first time I watched it something was missing and it felt hollow to me. The second time around magically fixed that. Still had some minor issues, but I'll bump it from a 7- to a 8-
 
Avengers EMH (the latter of which had a definitive Captain Marvel IMO)
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EDIT: Oh wait, you said IMO. Nevermind then. I respect your opinion, even though it's highly inaccurate
 
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I don't know, as someone who has not really liked an MCU movie since Iron Man 3 until Black Panther, and someone who genuinely hates Infinity War, I really liked Captain Marvel.
I haven't seen Captain Marvel yet, I will soon and post my thoughts here. You are one of few people who hate IW, I don't hate it, but it was meh, after the first act, the movie became boring. IW has killed all my interest in Endgame.
 
I haven't seen Captain Marvel yet, I will soon and post my thoughts here. You are one of few people who hate IW, I don't hate it, but it was meh, after the first act, the movie became boring. IW has killed all my interest in Endgame.

Even as someone who really enjoyed IW, I felt that it’s flaws are much more major than the flaws of CM.
 
Man, it really is amazing how much controversy there is surrounding what ultimately amounted to being a decently good but not outstanding but also not overly preachy movie. It was just a standard early MCU type of story. Like can you imagine all this backlash against the first Thor movie? Because that's basically right where this is. In fact I bet if you slipped this movie in with the phase one movies and showed them to a new viewer, the new viewer wouldn't notice a difference between Captain Marvel and the others (except they'd probably wonder why Nick Fury doesn't call Captain Marvel in Avengers 1). It feels like a "lost" phase one movie that we're only getting now.

I feel like a big part of the problem is that people are letting the frustration they feel regarding the Star Wars side of Disney leak over to how they feel towards the MCU. I don't know why though. Lucasfilms and Marvel Studios have demonstrated completely different levels of competence in regards to how they've handled their respective IPs thus far, yet people just see the shared Disney banner and assume the worst.
 
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It's mind-boggling, isn't it? So much outrage over such a harmless movie. The controversy surrounding it will end up being more memorable than the movie itself.
 
I can only imagine how much more ridiculous this whole situation will look ten or fifteen years from now, after we've had more female-led movies and Captain Marvel isn't the sole torch-bearer in the MCU, and it becomes much clearer just how regular Captain Marvel is aside from the protagonist's gender
 
I can only imagine how much more ridiculous this whole situation will look ten or fifteen years from now, after we've had more female-led movies and Captain Marvel isn't the sole torch-bearer in the MCU, and it becomes much clearer just how regular Captain Marvel is aside from the protagonist's gender

Good luck with that. I look at the world around me, and the past 5 years or so in popular culture, good luck hoping that segment of the fandom goes away. I don't think they are.
 
Is this movie really average or is it just MCU fatigue?
3 movies a year can cause wear and tear on the general audience.

It's really average.

The Skrulls are treated as "refugees" who have been displaced by the war with the Kree and looking for a new home. No longer are they the scary dominant interplanetary race looking for galactic domination, but actually misunderstood aliens/creatures. I've never seen a mishandling of characters since the Mandarin.

Then, Brie Larson goes through moments where she's likable and fun to cocky and *****y. I guess if that's people's things so be it, but her personality let alone her comments certainly played into my disappointment with her casting and her performance.

On top of this, what they did in the sense of Fury losing his eye--- not from combat but by a mere accident is absolutely stupid. People behind me laughed but it just shows that they took a really cool character and turned him into a bumbling sidekick in this.
 
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