The Dark Knight Rises The Christopher Nolan Thread

[GunRanger]

As long as Cameron doesn't write his own stuff, I'll be there to watch his movies. That means I'll see him in 2020, if then.

He has written every single one so far, why would he start then?

 

[Gianakin_]

Unfortunately, that's true.

 

[Nave 'Torment']

At the end of the day all awarding bodies are highly overrated and meant to impose a standard sense of mainstream appreciation. Even the more reputable ones (if not especially so). There's a reason why most artists value the work itself as rewarding, and it's NOT because they lost some award.

Nolan's legacy as a filmmaker will continue whether or not the academy recognises him or not. Hollywood is already dirty with studio-politics, it makes each of Nolan's works all the more valuable for their originality. Anyone who watches his movies will know.

 

[the amazing fro]

At the end of the day all awarding bodies are highly overrated and meant to impose a standard sense of mainstream appreciation. Even the more reputable ones (if not especially so). There's a reason why most artists value the work itself as rewarding, and it's NOT because they lost some award.

Nolan's legacy as a filmmaker will continue whether or not the academy recognises him or not. Hollywood is already dirty with studio-politics, it makes each of Nolan's works all the more valuable for their originality. Anyone who watches his movies will know.

Exactly. Sure an award is nice but ultimately it's worthless.

 

[Nave 'Torment']

So... porn-makers? :P (Mortal Kombat should've had a LITERALITY)

 

[jacobed]

I love listening to Nolan talking about his movies or just movies in general.

 

[TDK Joker]

All I know is:

Memento should've been nominated for Best Picture.
Nolan should've won for writing Memento's screenplay.

The Prestige should've been nominated for Best Picture.
Jonathan and Chris should've been nominated for Best Screenplay.

The Dark Knight should've been nominated for Best Picture.

Inception should've won for Best Screenplay (Nolan).
Nolan should've been nominated for Best Director (and should've won).
I'll even go farther and say that Inception should've won Best Picture.

All of these points are valid at the VERY least. These things should've obviously happened, and it's very noticeable (and suspicious) that they didn't happen. I can only conclude that there's an agenda by the academy against Nolan. Why that is, we may never know.

I could not agree any more!

 

[Nave 'Torment']

I know! You actually LEARN something from those interviews

 

[El Payaso]

All I know is, Nolan makes me orgasm.

This post is not funny in the least. But next to your nickname it made me laugh for 5 minutes straight.

 

[Godman]

He's a great director, but he lacks attention to detail in certain aspects. he is a very good story to film translator. I just feel his weakness which is a major offset is his action choreography. He attempts to ground it in reality but it doesn't translate well and ends up looking either too choppy or too generic.

 

[Batman jr.]

He's a great director, but he lacks attention to detail in certain aspects. he is a very good story to film translator. I just feel his weakness which is a major offset is his action choreography. He attempts to ground it in reality but it doesn't translate well and ends up looking either too choppy or too generic.

I have more problems with Burton: If I look at some of his older movies now, they look like cardboard cutouts placed in some bizarre fantasy world, especially the hideous BR.

Plus, he totally mis-used 3D (he's not alone of course) with AIW. And yes, I know the funny faces and voices of Johnny Depp now, thank you.

I never understood the complaining about Nolan's action scenes. Take BB, it was supposed to be like that, you didn't need to see Bats clearly. You just had to realise that he was finally "home" and ready to kick maximum ass.

His Howard Hughes film will be totally different than Scorcese's and Beatty's. And after that: Bond 24... t:

 

[Sharkboy]

I agree. Of all the things to complain about in BB and TDK i never understood the action scene complaint. I understand the problems with the close camera in BB, Nolan went for a certain style and it backfired, but in TDK and Inception? His action direction is fantastic, I really enjoyed the action setpieces in TDK, a great mix of much need naturalism with subtle cgi effects. I don't think theres any action moment in any recent superhero film that made me as gobsmacked as i was during the TDK chase scene...or the clowns/doctor/swat battle.

Then again im of the mind that the best one on one fight scene is the final fight in rashomon, and that the raiders of the lost ark truck chase is the measuring stick that all action should be placed against. So different strokes i guess, i was never much into wire fu/heavy cgi battles...those only seem to work well in their respective genres.

 

[Batman jr.]

I'm not a blind Nolan fanboy, but he has become, together with Scorcese & Spielberg, my favourite Director.

 

[Sharkboy]

I'm not a blind Nolan fanboy, but he has become, together with Scorcese & Spielberg, my favourite Director.

For sure. It's getting harder and harder to argue that point with any sort of veracity. You look at any critic list of best films of the past 10 years, and you will always find at least two or three films by Chris Nolan. (there is always a mention of Memento, The Dark Knight and Inception) That is quite the accomplishment considering he's only been making films for the last 15 years.

I also don't know of many directors that you can mention in elitist film buff cicles and still reference him to an average casual joe and still elict the same enthusiastic response.

Well thats my one butt kiss for the day.

 

[RED_Rider]

So... porn-makers? :P (Mortal Kombat should've had a LITERALITY)

Awesome, love Literality. It's been years since I heard an interesting "itality" for MK and as a (semi) crazy fan of that series, this makes me more than happy.

Also when it comes to directing, Academy / Oscar people don't know the difference between Nolan and porn director. They just want their lame, sentimental, feel good movies.

 

[craigdbfan]

After watching the DGA 75th anniversary interview of George Lucas conducted by Christopher Nolan I can't stop thinking about a wholly original sci fi/space opera epic directed by Chris.

If anyone can give us the next groundbreaking sci fi film that changes everything in such a way that it becomes a global phenomena like Star Wars it's Chris Nolan. I'm not trying to disregard some recently great sci fi movies but if anyone can change the playing field so drastically like Star Wars did it'd be him.

I'm also just really damn curious as to what he could pull off. I'm dying to see it and I really hope he has something like that planned for the near future. Here's hoping.

 

[AnneFan]

If anyone can give us the next groundbreaking sci fi film that changes everything in such a way that it becomes a global phenomena like Star Wars it's Chris Nolan. I'm not trying to disregard some recently great sci fi movies but if anyone can change the playing field so drastically like Star Wars did it'd be him.

True. Nolan is the pioneer of today. It's like 1999 was the big return of Star Wars, and along came a film called The Matrix and (for my money) stole its thunder and became of the times. While everyone else is doing remakes and staying safe, Nolan has new ideas and creates new worlds from them like with Inception. Intelligent, complex, thought provoking material.

 

[EliteF50]

You know what would be amazing? If Nolan wrote and directed his own space-opera. A new age Star Wars-like trilogy with all new characters and a team up of all his past actors (Bale, Jackman, Hardy, Neeson, JGL, Marion, Hathaway, etc).

PS. Sorry if some of the stuff I'm saying doesn't make sense -- it's 5AM and I need to be up in two hours.

 

[Batville]

I've thought about this for a while now so I just wanna discuss this with y'all. I know most of you have done this before so sorry. But my list for Nolan is:
The Dark Knight
The Prestige
Memento
Batman Begins
Inception
Insomnia and I haven't seen the others. Loved them all. I know I should be banned for putting Memento so low but it is what it is.

 

[Nave 'Torment']

Watching Following just after Inception will make you spill coffee across your screen... two films, with a guy named Cobb... and a very, very early Batman-easter egg when the protagonist has a Bat-insignia hanging on his front-door.

They say it was coincidental, at least the second point, but that doesn't help the coffee stains.

 

[KRIM]

After watching the DGA 75th anniversary interview of George Lucas conducted by Christopher Nolan I can't stop thinking about a wholly original sci fi/space opera epic directed by Chris.

Dear god, where is this? I remember looking everywhere for the full video, but never got very far.

If anyone can give us the next groundbreaking sci fi film that changes everything in such a way that it becomes a global phenomena like Star Wars it's Chris Nolan. I'm not trying to disregard some recently great sci fi movies but if anyone can change the playing field so drastically like Star Wars did it'd be him.

I'm also just really damn curious as to what he could pull off. I'm dying to see it and I really hope he has something like that planned for the near future. Here's hoping.

I think he'd need to step out of his box to fully take advantage of the genre. He has the writing capability, but as far as imagination and abstract thoughts to take it that far? I'm still not convinced.

His idol (Ridley) is already stepping back into the arena and blowing people's socks off thus far, so I think he'll be the closest Nolan-like director we'll have for a little while.

 

[akfj]

Dear god, where is this? I remember looking everywhere for the full video, but never got very far.

http://www.dga.org/Events/2011/04-april-2011/George-Lucas-on-Star-Wars.aspx

 

[KRIM]

http://www.dga.org/Events/2011/04-april-2011/George-Lucas-on-Star-Wars.aspx

I'm an idiot. I remember being on this page, but never clicked on the thumbnails because it just looked like a photo gallery.

 

[Gianakin_]

After watching the DGA 75th anniversary interview of George Lucas conducted by Christopher Nolan I can't stop thinking about a wholly original sci fi/space opera epic directed by Chris.

If anyone can give us the next groundbreaking sci fi film that changes everything in such a way that it becomes a global phenomena like Star Wars it's Chris Nolan. I'm not trying to disregard some recently great sci fi movies but if anyone can change the playing field so drastically like Star Wars did it'd be him.

I'm also just really damn curious as to what he could pull off. I'm dying to see it and I really hope he has something like that planned for the near future. Here's hoping.

Too true. I'd die if something like this were to happen.

 

[TinkerTailor]

I agree. Of all the things to complain about in BB and TDK i never understood the action scene complaint. I understand the problems with the close camera in BB, Nolan went for a certain style and it backfired, but in TDK and Inception? His action direction is fantastic, I really enjoyed the action setpieces in TDK, a great mix of much need naturalism with subtle cgi effects. I don't think theres any action moment in any recent superhero film that made me as gobsmacked as i was during the TDK chase scene...or the clowns/doctor/swat battle.

Then again im of the mind that the best one on one fight scene is the final fight in rashomon, and that the raiders of the lost ark truck chase is the measuring stick that all action should be placed against. So different strokes i guess, i was never much into wire fu/heavy cgi battles...those only seem to work well in their respective genres.

Quoted for truth.

Nolan is by far the most interesting mainstream/big budget director working today by my reckoning. I'd still put my excitement for a new Paul Thomas Anderson or Coen Brothers film above Nolan, but it's very clear that he already has an absolutely outstanding body of work.

I really hope he goes and makes something a bit looser after TDKR though. His screenplays are very portentous at times, and they lean on being exposition heavy because the scope of his story telling is always so ambitious. I'd love to see him do something where his characters have more room to breathe and interact with each other through more natural dialogue.