Civil War The Civil War "ANYTHING GOES" Thread - ENTER AT YOUR OWN RISK - NO SPOILER TAGS REQ.! - Part 2

[FunkMiller]

I knew they couldn't just leave Spidey after the airport scene. I wonder how much screen time he's going to be allowed in the Infinity War movies with his popularity in Civil War?

He'll have to be in it a lot. He's the stand out of CW. There's a reason Spider-man has been Marvel's crowning jewel for 50 years, and that's only highlighted even more when put up against the rest of the roster. Not demeaning the other characters at all, but there's just something about Spidey that elevates him to that high perch (near) where Batman sits. And now, Marvel have managed to depict him perfectly on screen, the clamour for more Spider-man is going to be huge.

 

[dyl1dyl]

what is the purpose of zemo finding the location of the 5 other winter soldiers?

He could just 1) activate bucky 2) show tony stark the clip where bucky kill his parents. His evil plan would have worked with those 2 steps.

Also I assume wanda, falcon, scott and hawkeye are all at wakanda along with steve and buck at the end of the film?

Although steve has great ability, I doubt he could break into the underwater prison alone.maybe BP assisted?

It is not confirmed that Wanda, Scott, Falcon and Hawkeye are also in Wakanda. Hopefully the Russos/Panther standalone director clarifies this soon. I personally hope they're all in Wakanda. That would be pretty neat in terms of world building

 

[FunkMiller]

what is the purpose of zemo finding the location of the 5 other winter soldiers?

He could just 1) activate bucky 2) show tony stark the clip where bucky kill his parents. His evil plan would have worked with those 2 steps.

I guess he wanted Cap and Bucky somewhere isolated, where he could exert some kind of control over what happened. If he'd shown Tony the clip elsewhere, some of the other avengers could have intervened. Zemo wanted Tony and Steve at each other's throats with no-one around to step in and calm things down.

 

[TalismanRing]

It is not confirmed that Wanda, Scott, Falcon and Hawkeye are also in Wakanda. Hopefully the Russos/Panther standalone director clarifies this soon. I personally hope they're all in Wakanda. That would be pretty neat in terms of world building

Hawkeye could go back to his farm since it's off the grid. Now Scott's going to have problems going home but he has to be back in time for his sequel.

As much as Steve needs to be going around saving people I don't think he could hold still in Wakanda for two years and it's not as if he has Bucky to talk to there. He Sam and maybe Wanda might hit the road together (road trip!) - she can protect them.

I wonder where Nat went off to. Considering she's now seemingly on her own this would have been a ripe time for the BW solo. But maybe she's gone to Hawkeye's farm.

 

[ScarlettW]

I am glad they saved Peggy's death for CW since it makes it more emotional for Cap, the thought of losing Bucky too. But...I feel like this Sharon kissed might feel a bit out of place because of Peggy's death.

What I am asking --there seems to be no hidden affair with Steve and Sharon right? Like this just sprung out of nowhere. Originally I thought it was implied that they had been secretly seeing one another but after reading about a zillion kiss comments it appears like they in fact have no real relationship they just kiss?

And what exactly is Wakanda's political status? Is it an isolated country completely? If Steve and the rest are hiding out there can they extradite them? Trying to figure out if Wakanda Avengers, if they all go there, will they continue to show up to an international crisis?

The funeral scene was disappointing because the focus shifted to Sharon with eyes on Steve. I was also disappointed that he didn't make a speech at the funeral knowing that he fought beside her during World War II, and he is Captain America.

Surprisingly Tony was not there. She was one of the best friends of Howard, they worked together for years, she certainly knew Tony since he was a child.

 

[dyl1dyl]

Hawkeye could go back to his farm since it's off the grid. Now Scott's going to have problems going home but he has to be back in time for his sequel.

As much as Steve needs to be going around saving people I don't think he could hold still in Wakanda for two years and it's not as if he has Bucky to talk to there. He Sam and maybe Wanda might hit the road together (road trip!) - she can protect them.

I wonder where Nat went off to. Considering she's now seemingly on her own this would have been a ripe time for the BW solo. But maybe she's gone to Hawkeye's farm.

Yup, sounds likely. I'm a huge Scarlet Witch fan so hoping she appears in another film before infinity war part 1 but I don't think there's a high chance because she's just too powerful. Haha. As you said, she can protect everyone so they might want to showcase ant man/black panther's strengths in their individual films without Scarlet witch stealing all the limelight. hoping the russos confirm what happened to all the avengers after they escaped though

 

[ImSGirl95]

Did anyone noticed that Vision said that Tony announced "8 years ago" that he was Iron Man?
I was dissapointed. While, yes, IM was released 8 years ago, but in fact the timeline to be correct, the events happened in 2010.

 

[Sevprince]

It is not confirmed that Wanda, Scott, Falcon and Hawkeye are also in Wakanda. Hopefully the Russos/Panther standalone director clarifies this soon. I personally hope they're all in Wakanda. That would be pretty neat in terms of world building

Either they are all in Wakanda or went their separate ways.

I don't see Hawkeye not going to check up on his family. Only the Avengers know about them right? Not sure if shield hance the government did or not. if off the grid to everyone, I see him just staying with his family or moving them to another location. I see Wanda going with him because they seem to be developing a bond between them plus for a backup if trouble arises.

I see Antman just going back with Hank, Hope and his pals. He can hide very easy with their help.

Sam would be with wherever Cap is cause they are friends and is not like he can go back to his VA job or DC house. Gov't can easily find him. They could just stay in Wakanda or go on road trip.

 

[noakai]

Either they are all in Wakanda or went their separate ways.

I don't see Hawkeye not going to check up on his family. Only the Avengers know about them right? Not sure if shield hance the government did or not. if off the grid to everyone, I see him just staying with his family or moving them to another location. I see Wanda going with him because they seem to be developing a bond between them plus for a backup if trouble arises.

I see Antman just going back with Hank, Hope and his pals. He can hide very easy with their help.

Sam would be with wherever Cap is cause they are friends and is not like he can go back to his VA job or DC house. Gov't can easily find him. They could just stay in Wakanda or go on road trip.

Wakanda is probably where they're safest because if anyone comes for them, they'll have to get permission to go into Wakanda and get them and BP will definitely deny it, but yeah it's not outright confirmed that they're there. Hawkeye might consider it too dangerous to go back to the farm if the government is looking for him, but he brought the Avengers there when Ultron was on the loose so who knows. They might have left it open-ended on purpose so they don't have to go back and explain how a character got from X place to Y place in the next movie.

 

[dyl1dyl]

Either they are all in Wakanda or went their separate ways.

I don't see Hawkeye not going to check up on his family. Only the Avengers know about them right? Not sure if shield hance the government did or not. if off the grid to everyone, I see him just staying with his family or moving them to another location. I see Wanda going with him because they seem to be developing a bond between them plus for a backup if trouble arises.

I see Antman just going back with Hank, Hope and his pals. He can hide very easy with their help.

Sam would be with wherever Cap is cause they are friends and is not like he can go back to his VA job or DC house. Gov't can easily find him. They could just stay in Wakanda or go on road trip.

To me, the dream scenario would be Wanda, Falcon and Hawkeye plus family are all in Wakanda. Ant man is laying low with Hank Pym and Hope. So we get to see Wanda, Sam and Clint in a small cameo in Black Panther and of course see lots of Ant Man in his film

 

[Solaire]

Really surprised so many are discussing whether it was shown if Bucky killed the Starks from what Zola showed us in WS. I thought it was pretty obvious, talked about accidents do happen then we saw a shot of the car crash and Winter Soldier. WS was their only assassin too so who else would've killed them. But then again, some people still think Tony retired from being Iron Man at the end of Iron Man 3.

 

[Sloopy_Diggums]

? Warmachine did some pretty sick stuff in the movie tbh. He stopped Scarlet Witch, fought Cap and Ant-Man plenty. He also helped knock down Giant Man

what is that electronic light-saber-paddle-type thing that War Machine has got? I've seen it in pictures, what the hell is that thing? and more importantly, is it cool?

 

[Joker8906]

Wakanda is probably where they're safest because if anyone comes for them, they'll have to get permission to go into Wakanda and get them and BP will definitely deny it, but yeah it's not outright confirmed that they're there. Hawkeye might consider it too dangerous to go back to the farm if the government is looking for him, but he brought the Avengers there when Ultron was on the loose so who knows. They might have left it open-ended on purpose so they don't have to go back and explain how a character got from X place to Y place in the next movie.

No one knows where the farm is, "Fury helped me set this up before I joined, kept it off SHIELDS radar like to keep it that way." up til the events of Ultron only Nat knew about Clints family. Most likely Natasha and Clint are there maybe Wanda.

 

[eon001]

Ah ****ing YES!! finally seen it. So much to talk about. Out the gates, the movie was ****ing awesome. Multiple nerdgasms. I couldn't catch my breath. Just as I'm recovering from one awesome nerd moment they hit me with another one. I was a grinning nervous mess off happiness at the end of the airport fight scene.

 

[eon001]

I enjoyed the way they handled Spiderman, although I could see honest trailers giving them **** about how he was forced in. I'm sure there's a back story that explains how Tony knew who he was, but they didn't really explain it in the movie.

Black Panther was ****ING AWESOME. I actually geeked out hard when I saw the Dora Milaje bodyguard. She was ready to throw down. Can't wait for Cooglers movie. ARRGH I'm so happy with this flick.

 

[dyl1dyl]

what is that electronic light-saber-paddle-type thing that War Machine has got? I've seen it in pictures, what the hell is that thing? and more importantly, is it cool?

I need to watch the movie again to confirm but I don't think it did that much. It got destroyed during the fight

 

[Nathan]

Just got back. Watched it. Loved it. I only have very minor nitpicks. Overall, it was a really great Movie. Can't wait to watch it again.

 

[Wylie Times]

Really surprised so many are discussing whether it was shown if Bucky killed the Starks from what Zola showed us in WS. I thought it was pretty obvious, talked about accidents do happen then we saw a shot of the car crash and Winter Soldier. WS was their only assassin too so who else would've killed them. But then again, some people still think Tony retired from being Iron Man at the end of Iron Man 3.

Because it was obvious, from the moment that movie came out people have theorized that Bucky was responsible for killing the Starks.

 

[TalismanRing]

Really surprised so many are discussing whether it was shown if Bucky killed the Starks from what Zola showed us in WS. I thought it was pretty obvious, talked about accidents do happen then we saw a shot of the car crash and Winter Soldier. WS was their only assassin too so who else would've killed them. But then again, some people still think Tony retired from being Iron Man at the end of Iron Man 3.

Why would WS be their only assassin? This was HYDRA, they had people like Rumlow and on the payroll as well as others from Black Ops. It was staged to look like a car accident which frankly is a bit subtle for WS who seems to rely on heavy weaponry to get the job done.

Also, interesting that in no way would Maria's death especially, after an autopsy be believed to have happened in a car crash - he strangled her. Howard was a world renowned billionaire and head of SHIELD and yet HYDRA was able to do a cover up on their autopsies.

 

[Sloopy_Diggums]

I need to watch the movie again to confirm but I don't think it did that much. It got destroyed during the fight

fair enough, well what IS it?
what does it do?

 

[Sevprince]

I naturally assumed WS killed Tony's parents after Cap 2. Yeah, they are other assassins who could have but for angst and drama's sake, it would be WS.

 

[Nathan]

fair enough, well what IS it?
what does it do?

Basically a high tech stun baton. Didn't really get a chance to use it though.

 

[Homem-Aranha]

I almost jumped out of my seat when Cap raised his shield and it looked like he was about to decapitate Iron-Man!

 

[Sloopy_Diggums]

Basically a high tech stun baton. Didn't really get a chance to use it though.

oh i see, do they explain WHY? he's a walking arsenal, i don't understand the impetus for giving him a melee-style weapon. Do they explain that?

Also, what happens to it? Does somebody break it? Does he even get so much as one hit with it?

just like...whats the deal with that thing? it's baffling to me...

 

[Solaire]

Why would WS be their only assassin? This was HYDRA, they had people like Rumlow and on the payroll as well as others from Black Ops. It was staged to look like a car accident which frankly is a bit subtle for WS who seems to rely on heavy weaponry to get the job done.

Also, interesting that in no way would Maria's death especially, after an autopsy be believed to have happened in a car crash - he strangled her. Howard was a world renowned billionaire and head of SHIELD and yet HYDRA was able to do a cover up on their autopsies.

From everything I've seen it looks like Winter Soldier was their one assassin, their secret weapon. He's the one they sent on missions, they obviously tried to create more but we saw what happened. We can't assume there are other assassins.