The Dark Knight Rises The Dark Knight Rises Info Hunters Thread - - - Part 21

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there was reports that Pence did film a scene with a young boy, possibly Bane


tho that could be complete load of ****
 
there was reports that Pence did film a scene with a young boy, possibly Bane


tho that could be complete load of ****

Might be wrong, but I think those came from IMDB.

Something about a boy in rags coming out of a hole.

Never believe anything IMDB says.
 
You're answering your own questions.

Yes, I'm sure there were other people there to act with.

But you don't know who they were. So you can't say for certainty who else besides Bale and Pence were or were not there. That proves nothing, except that you can't make pronouncements on high like "King was not in India" because nobody outside of the production REALLY knows who was and wasn't there.

Period.
 
But you don't know who they were. So you can't say for certainty who else besides Bale and Pence were or were not there. That proves nothing, except that you can't make pronouncements on high like "King was not in India" because nobody outside of the production REALLY knows who was and wasn't there.

Period.

Then how do we know that Bale and Pence were there?
 
Then how do we know that Bale and Pence were there?

I don't. But people claim to have seen them. Given the fact that we know both of them are in the cast it's not hard to believe. If they'd said they saw Liam Neeson there or, say, Lachy Hulme, I'd be suspicious. :woot:
 
So this is pure speculation and ideas, running with what was posted above. The little girl and Marion do look strikingly similar, so here's a couple thoughts that my muddled brain thought of;

- Information we've read from the shoot, about a young Bane rising from the fire, unhurt, and taken by a younger Ra's Al Ghul makes me wonder if;

- They play on the Rachel/Bruce scene from BB, with a young Talia befriending Bane after Ra's takes him in.

- Ra's recognises Bane could be his successor, and so trains him with the League of Shadows for many years.

- Bane falls in love with Talia (Marion - yes, I'm going with that theory too!) But she spurns him. He either exiles himself, or Ra's exiles him for his 'betrayal'. Hence in BB Ra's says Bruce was meant to be by his side, since he failed with his last prodigy.

- A few years later, Talia finds out Batman 'murdered' her father and vows revenge. She knows she can't match him physically, so she preys on Bane's feelings to get him to take care of Batman, and potentially lead the League of Shadows with her (though she probably has no intention of that, it's just a lie to get him to work for her).

- She works at Wayne Enterprises, under a different name (maybe Miranda) to get closer to Bruce, knowing him to be Batman from communication with Ra's, prior to his death.

- The final outcome might be something like the opposite to what happened with Rachel dying. This time Batman makes Bane realise Talia is acting for herself and has no intention of being with Bane. Bane may potentially be so confused and enraged (potential prolonged use of the 'venom' inhalant might lead to long term brain damage or something?) that he lashes out and tries to finish Batman anyway.

- Not too sure where Catwoman, and all the different Police units might fit in, unless they're after Batman while he trying to deal with his own personal fight. In the first two films, he's had to save Gotham itself (BB), the people of Gotham (from themselves..) (TDK), and now he has to fight to save himself - it's a good little trinity.

These are all just ideas, and if someone shouts at me for spoileryness, I swear.... just don't. :woot:

What do people think? I know it's loose, so don't think I've just written an entire synopsis/plot. It's jus ideas taken from what little we've seen/heard already! :)
 
I'm starting to think if anyone is going to reveal themselves to be someone else it's going to be john Blake.
 
So this is pure speculation and ideas, running with what was posted above. The little girl and Marion do look strikingly similar, so here's a couple thoughts that my muddled brain thought of;

- Information we've read from the shoot, about a young Bane rising from the fire, unhurt, and taken by a younger Ra's Al Ghul makes me wonder if;

- They play on the Rachel/Bruce scene from BB, with a young Talia befriending Bane after Ra's takes him in.

- Ra's recognises Bane could be his successor, and so trains him with the League of Shadows for many years.

- Bane falls in love with Talia (Marion - yes, I'm going with that theory too!) But she spurns him. He either exiles himself, or Ra's exiles him for his 'betrayal'. Hence in BB Ra's says Bruce was meant to be by his side, since he failed with his last prodigy.

- A few years later, Talia finds out Batman 'murdered' her father and vows revenge. She knows she can't match him physically, so she preys on Bane's feelings to get him to take care of Batman, and potentially lead the League of Shadows with her (though she probably has no intention of that, it's just a lie to get him to work for her).

- She works at Wayne Enterprises, under a different name (maybe Miranda) to get closer to Bruce, knowing him to be Batman from communication with Ra's, prior to his death.

- The final outcome might be something like the opposite to what happened with Rachel dying. This time Batman makes Bane realise Talia is acting for herself and has no intention of being with Bane. Bane may potentially be so confused and enraged (potential prolonged use of the 'venom' inhalant might lead to long term brain damage or something?) that he lashes out and tries to finish Batman anyway.

- Not too sure where Catwoman, and all the different Police units might fit in, unless they're after Batman while he trying to deal with his own personal fight. In the first two films, he's had to save Gotham itself (BB), the people of Gotham (from themselves..) (TDK), and now he has to fight to save himself - it's a good little trinity.

These are all just ideas, and if someone shouts at me for spoileryness, I swear.... just don't. :woot:

What do people think? I know it's loose, so don't think I've just written an entire synopsis/plot. It's jus ideas taken from what little we've seen/heard already! :)

Screw it. Let's just call the movie The League of Shadows Rise also with Ra's Al Ghul and Talia(and some other people too).
 
I don't. But people claim to have seen them. Given the fact that we know both of them are in the cast it's not hard to believe. If they'd said they saw Liam Neeson there or, say, Lachy Hulme, I'd be suspicious. :woot:

So Nolan would hide away some little girl who isn't a big name actor, but just let Bale and Pence walk around free as they please?

Really?
 
There was never any mention of Bane UNHARM rising from a FIRe pit. There were reports of a small bald child emerging from the pit, but no one said he was unharmed or if it was a 'fire' pit. A fire pit is kinda random especially a big one; is it for BBQs?
 
So Nolan would hide away some little girl who isn't a big name actor, but just let Bale and Pence walk around free as they please?

Really?

Huh? You're putting words in my mouth.

All I said is that nobody said she was there. But given the fact that she wasn't known to be in the film and she's an actress that like six people would recognize on sight, what does that prove?

For the record, I don't think she was there, but I can't say that I know for a fact that she wasn't, just like I don't know what's going on in the house across the street. I'm not THERE. Y'know?

My point is that you're just as bad as the people who take all the rumors as fact. You're acting like you know stuff that you don't know, too. You're acting like you know what actors were and weren't there, and then you turn around and admit to me that you're sure there were other people there. You can't have it both ways. I don't know anything, and neither do you.

No more pronouncements from on high. EVERYTHING is rumor except what is officially confirmed.
 
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Screw it. Let's just call the movie The League of Shadows Rise also with Ra's Al Ghul and Talia(and some other people too).

Well, you're welcome to pitch that title to Nolan, but I don't fancy your chances.

It's still about him though, The Dark Knight. He has to beat his own demons this time. He has to come to terms with who and what he is, so he can be 100% Batman. I don't want to compare it to Smallville (and I'm not!) but I'm jus saying it could all be part of his journey to being the finished Batman. He's in favour with the Police, his past is resolved, and is ready to start new films once Nolan's done. It's one of the best ways for him to end it, ready for someone else to take over. It's like a check-list for being ready for the future films. Wayne Manor, Batcave, in cahoots with the Police, his past resolved with Ra's etc. This film is about the Dark Knight rising, being ready, the finished article.

They're just ideas! :)
 
the"pit" could just as easily been a stairway down into some underground prison or whatever
 
the"pit" could just as easily been a stairway down into some underground prison or whatever

Or a fiery crater leftover after an explosion.

Or... I don't know...a vat full of cloned sheep with extra heads.

Probably not that last one.

I need to go to bed.
 
Huh? You're putting words in my mouth.

All I said is that nobody said she was there. But given the fact that she wasn't known to be in the film and she's an actress that like six people would recognize on sight, what does that prove?

For the record, I don't think she was there, but I can't say that I know for a fact that she wasn't, just like I don't know what's going on in the house across the street. I'm not THERE. Y'know?

My point is that you're just as bad as the people who take all the rumors as fact. You're acting like you know stuff that you don't know, too. You're acting like you know what actors were and weren't there, and then you turn around and admit to me that you're sure there were other people there. You can't have it both ways. I don't know anything, and neither do you.

No more pronouncements from on high. EVERYTHING is rumor except what is officially confirmed.

I'm not the one going around saying "Oh well she was announced as Miranda Tate officially but MAYBE she MIGHT POSSIBLY be Talia because of stuff that Nolan did in Begins!"

And yes. I agree that EVERYTHING is rumor that isn't officially confirmed.

Like Marion Cotillard being Miranda Tate. THAT'S officially confirmed.
 
I'm not the one going around saying "Oh well she was announced as Miranda Tate officially but MAYBE she MIGHT POSSIBLY be Talia because of stuff that Nolan did in Begins!"

Yes, but did I ever claim that was FACT? Nope.

And yes. I agree that EVERYTHING is rumor that isn't officially confirmed.

:up:

Like Marion Cotillard being Miranda Tate. THAT'S officially confirmed.

When did I say she wasn't? I said I wasn't sure that that was the *whole* truth, and I wasn't. You've convinced me now that it probably is, but I never claimed that the press release was in any way fake.

You're mistaking me for a "Nolan the Deceiver" believer. Which I'm not. You're also mistaking me for someone who takes every rumor seriously. Which I'm also not. I enjoy a little speculating. But I also make no bones about the fact that speculation is exactly that: speculation.
 
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It would be funny if it's just a young version of Marion's original character showing that she knew Bruce or his parents when she was little.

Here's hoping there's a Talia connection to the younger Ra's character though. Could be lovely.
 
I know, man, I thought it as soon as I saw her pic on the SHH! news page yesterday. I didn't even Marion's pic for reference. Seeing them up there, almost side-by-side...it's crazy.

Question: are you thinking what I'm thinking?

It doesn't have to be what your thinking. What if Miranda Tate has a daughter before she meets Bruce? That's also a possibility. It doesn't have to be that Miranda Tate is secretly [Censored by WB].
 
Yup we can only speculate with what we have. Personnaly i am not for Talia to be in the film at all. (now she could really fit, in we never know) but i say we should prepare in case.

Joey King tweeted that on May 1,

"Great!! I'm leaving the U.S. tomorrow 2 film in another country! "


filming began on May 6 and 7,but Nolan main crew arrived on May 1 .

The main crew will start arriving from May 1.
)
http://articles.timesofindia.indiat...90552_1_jodhpur-s-mehrangarh-fort-jaipur-crew she tweeted this too the same day:
Have not been there yet-but I would LOVE 2 visit!! RT @sakshamselena: how bout India, you must have been here, too.
And then, there is this casting call :

Location: India
Start Date: Late April

[YOUNG GIRL] 10 year old Caucasian girl. She's a strong, tough kid who also
happens to be very articulate and smart..

http://www.openbookcastinglive.com/Member/OpenBookCasting/Images/ImageGallery/20110209180210796.pdf

Thanks to MagnarTheGreat
 
I think so too. Specially since Nolan was spotted scouting the NYSE as a shooting location.


I'm guessing that if Bruce is pulled in for involvment with the batman i.e. supplying him with equipment/funding. then shares in his company would plummet.
 
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