Dark Phoenix $ The DARK PHOENIX Box Office Speculation ThreaD $

[TheNewSlayer]

I thought the line was horribly delivered...but that's mainly because J-law was phoning in most of the movie, from what I've heard. (I ain't watching this crap!) Although as a line it could have been played for humor...we'll never know, as it wasn't done by an actress who was trying. Could have been powerful, or it could have been funny.

Not as funny as the horrible reviews for this film.

Or it's pathetic box office.

Or the hundreds of things wrong with the dumpster fire of a film.

If you didn't see the movie how can you know that it's bad? Only because other people said it? You to see it for yourself to have your own opinion.

Don't talk to me about this movie until you see it.

 

[TheNewSlayer]

Well if we are looking at the movie going audience it is like 95% either hate or apathy. So this thread is pretty accurate.

It's not accurate at all.

IMDB audience score for this movie is 6.0. Which means only 40% didn't like it.

Dark Phoenix (2019) - IMDb

Rotten tomatoes audience score is 64% which means 36% didn't like it.

Dark Phoenix (2019)

The movie didn't do so bad but there are people here who didn't even see the movie and wants to spread hate about it.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

It's not accurate at all.

IMDB audience score for this movie is 6.0. Which means only 40% didn't like it.

Dark Phoenix (2019) - IMDb

Rotten tomatoes audience score is 64% which means 36% didn't like it.

Dark Phoenix (2019)

The movie didn't do so bad but there are people here who didn't even see the movie and wants to spread hate about it.

That is neither how IMDB or RT Audience scores works. Furthermore, neither are considered remotely accurate. Though a 6 on IMDB is not great, hard to call it good.

Also if there is not apathy towards this film, why is the box office so low?

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

Audience scores are always going to be inflated (unless there is a deliberate effort to tank them), because the audience is always going to be made up of largely people interested in said film so they are more pre-disposed to like it. Those that aren't interested wouldn't go at all. It is why even the worst movies tend to get at least a B Cinemascore. Critics are a better representation of the general audience because they see every film (or most films) no matter what because it is their job to see them. This drastically reduces bias.

So yes, audience ratings around 60% or C or D range is rather bad. Especially this soon after release.

 

[shinlyle]

If you didn't see the movie how can you know that it's bad? Only because other people said it? You to see it for yourself to have your own opinion.

Don't talk to me about this movie until you see it.

That's so blatantly dumb. I can form an educated guess on whether the movie is bad or not based on the dozens of reviews I've read from people on here, the hundred or so critics that panned it, and the signs written in glaring 10 ft neon that says "BEWARE OF BAD MOVIE". The whole point of reading up on a film that looks like crap before you go PAY for it, is that you save yourself an hour and a half to 2 hours time and 20-40 dollars.

That whole, "don't judge something until you pay for it" crap is how fans of crap films like Catwoman and Elektra tried to get people to see those films...which are blessedly dead and buried in the $4.99 DVD/Blu-Ray bin at your local Wal-Mart...
...which is where Dark Phoenix will be headed sooner rather than later.

 

[Sage2016]

I wonder what the drop off will be this week. I bet it won't be pretty.

 

[shinlyle]

I wonder what the drop off will be this week. I bet it won't be pretty.

With MiB opening this weekend, PLUS it didn't even open at number one? It'll be as ugly as daily rewrites on the set of a filming movie...which this film also had.

 

[Iceman]

Facts. Numbers. Movie-goers. Comic fans. Ghandi. Anyone who is still riding the high from seeing Avengers Endgame. People who actually like the X-Men...
It's pretty much like a senior class party. Everyone gets to come!

Yes, and people trust Gandhi.

 

[Detective Conan]

One has to wonder if Disney or some other company had never bought Fox and it remained an independent entity what they would have done with the Marvel properties they have under their license going forward post-Dark Phoenix.

I’m curious to know how they would’ve plan to bounce back from this especially since they’ve never been in this position before with the X-Men since DP is the real bomb of the franchise. If they didn’t have the Merc-With-The-Mouth to fall back on then Fox would be in serious danger of losing the rights to the X-Men after this.

I suspect in that scenario, Fox would’ve put the main series on a lengthy hiatus while doing X-Force and Deadpool 3 while trying to branch out to other spinoffs. Noah Hawley’s Doom film I suspect would be fairly inexpensive compared to the ginormous budget of a mainline X-film so they would pretty much let him do his own thing and then use that to springboard a new FF reboot. Then eventually Fox would to do a hard reboot of the X-Franchise.

 

[EnDz0n3]

If this drops 70% which is possible, it’ll do a little under $10Mil. I think that’s still too high.

At least it’ll still be in the Top 5, at number 5!

 

[samsnee]

I think it will probably drop 65% ish which will put it in the low $20M range.

MIB is also looking like a flop out of the gate. It’s been a bad month for blockbusters that should see a turnaround with Toy Story and Spider-man.

 

[EnDz0n3]

A 65% drop from $33Mil is $12Mil though.

You're thinking of 35% drop which is impossible.

 

[Raiders]

The box office and the creativity is a sign of franchise fatigue.
Here is where the XCU got it wrong and the MCU has got it right.
XCU:
a) 7 team movies, which is too many. Mostly about Charles vs Erik
b)Only one character spinoff franchise (Wolverine)
c)Very little introduction of new major characters.
d)Getting two Dark Phoenix movies.
All of this has become tiresome, there nothing new with an X-Men team movies.
I’m not counting Deadpool, because he seem to separated himself from the XCU, and he proud of it.

MCU:
a) They are playing smart, the MCU is an umbrella of about 8 separate franchises. Each franchise will make about three movie and avoiding getting tired.
b) As some major characters leave other major characters are introduced.
c) The MCU is constantly evolving and reinventing itself, something that the XCU fail to do.

The sad part about is there are many many mutants will could have seen in there own franchise that Fox fail to deliver. It took 13 years before Ryan Reynolds is able to get Deadpool on the big screen. Channing Tatum has been trying to get Gambit for 5 years, now it’s not happening.
Fox fought everyone who was trying the evolve this franchise.
All Fox wanted was a Charles vs Erik movie. No other characters mattered to them except for Wolverine.

 

[samsnee]

A 65% drop from $33Mil is $12Mil though.

You're thinking of 35% drop which is impossible.

My bad. Forgot to subtract it out.

 

[Blade Hoarder]

IMDB audience score for this movie is 6.0. Which means only 40% didn't like it.

Your math is blowing my mind right now.

 

[Limonade]

It's not accurate at all.

IMDB audience score for this movie is 6.0. Which means only 40% didn't like it.

Dark Phoenix (2019) - IMDb

Rotten tomatoes audience score is 64% which means 36% didn't like it.

Dark Phoenix (2019)

IMDb movie rating score does not equal to a certain percentage consensus... you do realize that, right?

If my profile page, hypothetically, has an average rating of 6.1/10 popularity:

• I don't take that as "oh! 40% doesn't like me."
• It means that however many people voted on my profile (for example 25,000) has a range from 1s to 10s and with some proper math that averages to a 6.
• It has nothing to do with the amount of people saying the like and dislike.
• There could be 100k viewers that voted more 6s than 10s and the average rating could still be 6.1. Because an AVERAGE is calculated by dividing the sum of the values in the set by their numbers.

I hope I explained the IMDb's rating, properly. Heck, even click on that IMDb rating score to see how heavily it's rated a 6 or a 7.

To me it just means, the movie is okay. It's not great.

 

[EnDz0n3]

Tracking for the weekend is up at boxoffice.com
MIB to open at $28
Dark Phoenix in 5th place with a 60% decline at $13Mil. After two weeks, Dark Phoenix's cume will be around $55. Will this even reach $75Mil?

 

[Dark Raven]

That's so blatantly dumb. I can form an educated guess on whether the movie is bad or not based on the dozens of reviews I've read from people on here, the hundred or so critics that panned it, and the signs written in glaring 10 ft neon that says "BEWARE OF BAD MOVIE". The whole point of reading up on a film that looks like crap before you go PAY for it, is that you save yourself an hour and a half to 2 hours time and 20-40 dollars.

That whole, "don't judge something until you pay for it" crap is how fans of crap films like Catwoman and Elektra tried to get people to see those films...which are blessedly dead and buried in the $4.99 DVD/Blu-Ray bin at your local Wal-Mart...
...which is where Dark Phoenix will be headed sooner rather than later.

Don't forget Fant4stic. That's exactly how all the FFINO defenders reasoned. They wanted people in these forums to go and see the movie for themselves (even after it looked so bad every step of the way through production). That way, it would then inflate the ticket sales as people would be duped into seeing it. It wouldn't have mattered that the film was bad and that you didn't enjoy the experience, as long as they got bums on seats by any means possible.

I remember some FFINO defenders wanted to go and see the movie 10 times. I wonder if they ever did make it past 1.

 

[psylockolussus]

I think it will probably drop 65% ish which will put it in the low $20M range.

MIB is also looking like a flop out of the gate. It’s been a bad month for blockbusters that should see a turnaround with Toy Story and Spider-man.

Disney is saving this summer. Far from Home for me is a Disney film simply because its under Marvel Studios/mcu.

Though who knows if Annabelle surprises everyone and I'm not talking about jump scares.

 

[shinlyle]

Don't forget Fant4stic. That's exactly how all the FFINO defenders reasoned. They wanted people in these forums to go and see the movie for themselves (even after it looked so bad every step of the way through production). That way, it would then inflate the ticket sales as people would be duped into seeing it. It wouldn't have mattered that the film was bad and that you didn't enjoy the experience, as long as they got bums on seats by any means possible.

I remember some FFINO defenders wanted to go and see the movie 10 times. I wonder if they ever did make it past 1.

Preach. It's such an obvious, "Righteously con them out of their money" tactic.

Will I see this eventually? Maybe. Will I ever pay a DIME of my hard-earned money to actually sacrifice time from my life to watch it, KNOWING I will probably hate it?
No. Why? Because I'm not stupid...well, most of the time, I'm not.

 

[Dark Raven]

Preach. It's such an obvious, "Righteously con them out of their money" tactic.

Will I see this eventually? Maybe. Will I ever pay a DIME of my hard-earned money to actually sacrifice time from my life to watch it, KNOWING I will probably hate it?
No. Why? Because I'm not stupid...well, most of the time, I'm not.

It's the classic "Pig in a Poke" tactic.

 

[Theweepeople]

Don't forget Fant4stic. That's exactly how all the FFINO defenders reasoned. They wanted people in these forums to go and see the movie for themselves (even after it looked so bad every step of the way through production). That way, it would then inflate the ticket sales as people would be duped into seeing it. It wouldn't have mattered that the film was bad and that you didn't enjoy the experience, as long as they got bums on seats by any means possible.

I remember some FFINO defenders wanted to go and see the movie 10 times. I wonder if they ever did make it past 1.

I experienced something similar in the x-men origins wolverine thread years ago. One incredibly annoying poster was influencing all the doubters to see that turd. The member got really angry when I told him I would be spending my hard earned money on the better looking Star Trek. I even made a silly bet with him that Trek would make more money domestically. His banishment from these forums took place shortly after the bet.

 

[Limonade]

Look. I like to say I'm a huge X-Men fan. And I'll show my support if I feel any creatives deserves my hard earn cash. I supported X-Men 1 and 2. I've supported X-Men: FC and DOFP. I've supported Deadpool and Logan. All of it, to me worth the money I spent in theaters--Day One.

But I'm not invested in mediocrity. Because I've got a long list of purchases of products and entertainment from different kinds of creative people hungrier for my time and money.

It's that simple. And if both the marketing and word of mouth is weak, there's no way I'll be swayed from my gut instinct to stay away!

 

[EnDz0n3]

I can't believe Spider-man Far From Home's first day at the Box Office will be a Tuesday aka half-off. Got our tix for IMAX!!!

What's sad is even with the cheaper movie ticket cost, Spidey will make more on that first day than Dark Phoenix on its first weekend.

 

[shinlyle]

I can't believe Spider-man Far From Home's first day at the Box Office will be a Tuesday aka half-off. Got our tix for IMAX!!!

What's sad is even with the cheaper movie ticket cost, Spidey will make more on that first day than Dark Phoenix on its first weekend.

That's a guarantee.