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[flickchick85]

Can someone ask him if he denounces Miller's actions and confirm whether they will continue working in the DCU.

There’s no way he’d do that when they still have a movie to sell, unfortunately.

 

[Prison Mike]

Because they still have to do their jobs. It'd be an extremely pathetic state of affairs for journalists to stop reporting on things because of fearing a studio exec.

Their job is to get things right too, not just throw a bunch of stuff out there and see what sticks.

 

[Invader Joker]

Their job is to get things right too, not just throw a bunch of stuff out there and see what sticks.

And I feel they probably are right and it's all about technicalities.
Gunn for extremely, extremely obvious reasons would not want the headline "Wonder Woman is not part of the first 3 years of the DCU" out there.
But for him the first 3 years of the DCU might mean from when his Superman film releases to 2028, while for Variety they could just mean from now to 2026.

Some WBD execs might be open to keeping Ezra, but that doesn't mean Gunn and Safran are.

The "no we have an 8-10 year plan" comment is also stupid because it's obvious Variety just meant the first 3 years, not that they didn't have a plan beyond that.

 

[flickchick85]

When will people realize Gunn is the spin guy? He says what the studio has “ok’d” him to say. He’s there to give us the official company line. The trades have no such filter. By telling us “some of” the THR report was true, he basically confirmed their sources to be legit, so whatever else he has to say is spin. It’s the same for Variety. We know their sources are legit, that’s not even a question. Gunn’s simply there to control the narrative for his company.

 

[flickchick85]

I mean “I don’t know what’s out there about Ezra”??? People really buying that? Of course he knows, and he knows what they’re planning to do about it, it’s just not for him to say right now.

 

[Invader Joker]

When will people realize Gunn is the spin guy? He says what the studio has “ok’d” him to say. He’s there to give us the official company line. The trades have no such filter. By telling us “some of” the THR report was true, he basically confirmed their sources to be legit, so whatever else he has to say is spin. It’s the same for Variety. We know their sources are legit, that’s not even a question. Gunn’s simply there to control the narrative for his company.

I still remember when Toby Emmerich commented on THR's article about Ben being done as Batman by saying "No, Ben is our Batman, we love Ben."
Gunn is now on the equivalent to Emmerich's position on DC Studios. Of course he's gonna lie and spin, trade reporters should not stop publishing what they heard because of his spins, if anything they should double down. Trades have a better history at this stuff than studio execs ever will.

 

[Prison Mike]

And I feel they probably are right and it's all about technicalities.
Gunn for extremely, extremely obvious reasons would not want the headline "Wonder Woman is not part of the first 3 years of the DCU" out there.
But for him the first 3 years of the DCU might mean from when his Superman film releases to 2028, while for Variety they could just mean from now to 2026.

Some WBD execs might be open to keeping Ezra, but that doesn't mean Gunn and Safran are.

The "no we have an 8-10 year plan" comment is also stupid because it's obvious Variety just meant the first 3 years, not that they didn't have a plan beyond that.

If they meant “the first 3 years” then it’s just bad writing. Reading it again though, they made it sound like Gunn’s plan is only 3 years which is obviously not the case.

A lot of their articles is just speculation with one source saying this or another saying that. Just wish they would report what they know to be factually true or officially announced.

 

[Invader Joker]

If they meant “the first 3 years” then it’s just bad writing. Reading it again though, they made it sound like Gunn’s plan is only 3 years which is obviously not the case.

A lot of their articles is just speculation with one source saying this or another saying that. Just wish they would report what they know to be factually true or officially announced.

It's journalism 101 you don't rat out your sources lol.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

The "no we have an 8-10 year plan" comment is also stupid because it's obvious Variety just meant the first 3 years, not that they didn't have a plan beyond that.

Yeah, but that's what this ResonantJustice person on Twitter was essentially saying: "... the notion that your slate is only 3 years worth of projects?"

Gunn's response was directed toward him, or rather his interpretation of the report in question.

 

[Herolee10]

 

[Milk Tray Guy]

How wonderful. We finally get a successful version of Wonder Woman on the big screen and Gunn/Safran decide to bench her for the foreseeable. Madness!

That's the thing that galls me the most. I get the need for drastic changes, but losing Gal Gadot's Wonder Woman is a bitter pill. I'm not even saying it's not the right call. After all, we don't know their overall plan or all the impact factors that led to their decision making, but it's still a tough one to swallow.

The thing about them being open to Ezra in the future is damage control for The Flash. They’re not going to torpedo a huge budget movie by publicly firing the lead actor.

Absolutely.

I mean “I don’t know what’s out there about Ezra”??? People really buying that? Of course he knows, and he knows what they’re planning to do about it, it’s just not for him to say right now.

Definitely.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they were stupid enough to continue working with Ezra in the event that The Flash makes bank like all get-out. For the sake of experiment, I'm slightly hoping that it does.

 

[TheScarecrow]

I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they were stupid enough to continue working with Ezra in the event that The Flash makes bank like all get-out. For the sake of experiment, I'm slightly hoping that it does.

Ezra is gone. If The Flash makes bank it will be because of Keaton.

They’re not going to kill the films on their release schedule. They’re all gone. Muschietti will get another film in the DCU as a reward. Only future movie in the DCEU that is possible is Aquaman 3 if Aquaman 2 makes bank.

 

[Comicbookguy339]

Dumping Cavill and Gal but keeping Ezra would be insane.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

Ezra is gone. If The Flash makes bank it will be because of Keaton.

They’re not going to kill the films on their release schedule. They’re all gone. Muschietti will get another film in the DCU as a reward. Only future movie in the DCEU that is possible is Aquaman 3 if Aquaman 2 makes bank.

I'm just saying that I wouldn't be too shocked if they kept him around on account of The Flash doing Joker type numbers. And he's the lead actor, so your point about Keaton is irrelevant. All boats rise with the tide, after all.

But just to be clear, my position is this: If all goes as expected — meaning that the film proves to be little more than a modest success — then sure, he's gone. But again, if it proves to be some kind of massive, unexpected hit, you can bet there'll be more discussions to be had regarding his future.

 

[Frodo]

Dumping Cavill and Gal but keeping Ezra would be insane.

I think so too, but this is WB , so anything is possible.

 

[ArmsHeldOut]

I'm conflicted, though. As mentioned above, part of me wants The Flash to make bank just to see what the studio does. (Surely, greed won't get in the way of common sense yet again. Or will it? lol) But the other part simply can't stand the thought of Ezra reprising a role he's not much good at. And thankfully, he won't be allowed to. Right? Right??

 

[Sithborg]

I mean “I don’t know what’s out there about Ezra”??? People really buying that? Of course he knows, and he knows what they’re planning to do about it, it’s just not for him to say right now.

Ahh, yes. Something slipped through Mr. Extremely on Twitter's view. Very believable. Extremely.

 

[Mani-Man]

I don’t know why the trades bother to report anything about DC anymore when Gunn is is there to debunk it right away. I do like that he’s pretty active on Twitter to set the record straight.

Well its their job to get people to click and talk about their articles.
Its their bread and butter.
I definitly like that Gunn comes in often to adress it...but the way he does it, opens more questions.
Which is a interesting way to handle this for sure.

The truth is probably as usual in the middle of it all, until we get the first few projects announced...it is in the end pointless to get too upset or so about any of this.

Neither these reports nor Gunn adressing it, they all just do their jobs.

But either way, keeping Miller after the Flash, no matter how it turns out...would be awful.
Like, if you get rid of everyone except Them, after all the stuff that came out...boy that would be a incredible bad move.

 

[ARBH]

If the studio execs had ANY kind of faith in Ezra Miller, they would be running them out there for interviews and press junkets. Aside from their images being used in marketing material (hard to avoid since he is portraying the lead character), it has been radio-silence. The film is expensive. They were not going to scrap it. At the same time, there is no indication at all, that they have any confidence in Ezra Miller beyond the release of The Flash.

 

[Frodo]

To be fair , outlets like Variety , Hollywood Reporter, and Deadline are the ones who've reported this stuff , and they're a pretty respected and reputable trades.

Also to be fair, Gunn still hasn't said Gadot is returning or that WW3 is happening, he hasn't said Ezra is done after Flash, he's been iffy on the status of the Suicide Squad etc.

So he hasn't exactly slayed all the dragons ,and debunked some of the major sticking points.

What I believe is happening , is that the trades are getting inside information about the deliberations from different factions inside of WB, probably from factions who don't agree with the new regime.

They're leaking different ideas, and different suggestions that may have been spit balled, or considered, but that were either rejected or not agreed upon.

I suspect alot of these insider leaks, are meant to make the new leadership look bad , or at the very least, force WB or Gunn, to have to respond to the chatter, which in itself is a distraction.

 

[Batgirl0202]

If WBD keeps Miller around I'll buy a bottle of hot sauce to flavour my shoes before I eat them...

 

[GreenKToo]

To be fair , outlets like Variety , Hollywood Reporter, and Deadline are the ones who've reported this stuff , and they're a pretty respected and reputable trades.

Also to be fair, Gunn still hasn't said Gadot is returning or that WW3 is happening, he hasn't said Ezra is done after Flash, he's been iffy on the status of the Suicide Squad etc.

So he hasn't exactly slayed all the dragons ,and debunked some of the major sticking points.

What I believe is happening , is that the trades are getting inside information about the deliberations from different factions inside of WB, probably from factions who don't agree with the new regime.

They're leaking different ideas, and different suggestions that may have been spit balled, or considered, but that were either rejected or not agreed upon.

I suspect alot of these insider leaks, are meant to make the new leadership look bad , or at the very least, force WB or Gunn, to have to respond to the chatter, which in itself is a distraction.

I think that's exactly it.
Either misinformation is being leaked intentionally, or,
it's info that is 2nd or 3rd hand, ie, my cousin's friend's Gardner overhead Gunn talking, etc etc.

 

[ARBH]

If WBD keeps Miller around I'll buy a bottle of hot sauce to flavour my shoes before I eat them...

LOL! Ezra Miller is an insurance liability nightmare. I have no idea how any studio could hire them after the past year of absolute insanity. Miller does not have the star power to command that type of risk.

 

[ARBH]

I think that's exactly it.
Either misinformation is being leaked intentionally, or,
it's info that is 2nd or 3rd hand, ie, my cousin's friend's Gardner overhead Gunn talking, etc etc.

Yeah, but that has been the way entertainment news at-large has devolved. Everyone wants to break some big story, so they throw everything against the wall and if something happens to stick, they can all point and say "See? We were right!"