The Election Night Thread - Part 2

[SuperT]

I'm reactionary when liberals are calling all Trump voters, racists?

If you vote in a guy that says he wants to send Latinos back to Mexico, that he wants to ban Muslims and create a Muslim database, when he wants to implement stop & frisk again that unfairly targets people of color, when he calls black people thugs who live in the ghetto, when his own vice president wants to outlaw gay marriage, when he doesn't believe in equal pay for equal work for women - Whether it's overt or internalized you are a racist bigot.

White men and women overwhelming voted in this type of guy so please tell me what type of message that sends to minorities in this country other than Whiteness is a serious problem here?

 

[samsnee]

Maybe not actively racist, but as others have said, you are passively condoning it.

To tie this back into comics, Peter Park didn't kill Uncle Ben. But because he didn't stop the robber when he could have, he basically did.

 

[chaseter]

Maybe not actively racist, but as others have said, you are passively condoning it.

To tie this back into comics, Peter Park didn't kill Uncle Ben. But because he didn't stop the robber when he could have, he basically did.

So Trump voters are Spider-Man!?

 

[chaseter]

If you vote in a guy that says he wants to send Latinos back to Mexico, that he wants to ban Muslims and create a Muslim database, when he wants to implement stop & frisk again that unfairly targets people of color, when he calls black people thugs who live in the ghetto, when his own vice president wants to outlaw gay marriage, when he doesn't believe in equal pay for equal work for women - Whether it's overt or internalized you are a racist bigot.

White men and women overwhelming voted in this type of guy so please tell me what type of message that sends to minorities in this country other than Whiteness is a serious problem here?

If you vote for him BECAUSE he said those things, then you're racist. To claim all or most whites did just that...is also racist.

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

I think this highlights how much Trump's victory was about an anti-Hillary feeling rather than pro-Trump. 61% disapproval in polls but wins the election? That has to be unprecedented. The democrats are going to have to do some serious thinking.

We went within a 30 day period from the Republican party "tearing itself apart" to the Democrat's losing an almost unlose-able election from the perspective that Trump is the antithesis of good leadership.

meh if the pre-election polls were so off, I wouldn't put too much stock in the post election polling either.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

If I vote for Vladimir Putin for economic reasons, I'm also supporting his authoritarian policies also.

If you vote for Trump for economic reasons, you are also supporting his white nationalist platform.

You could argue supporting Hillary is also supporting Wall Street cronyism and that's a fair argument but ultimately it wasn't a dealbreaker for Hillary supporters.

If you think white nationalism isn't a dealbreaker then own up to it.

 

[Tacit Ronin]

White nationalists are already feeling empowered. In some of the forums I visit, the few women, trans and gay people there are already being confronted with a more brazen attitude. I am thinking of logging off permanently.

I hope this place doesn't hue toward the same attitude.

 

[SV Fan]

And oddly enough, you've got Clinton backers wanting it eliminated based on how she's apparently doing with the Popular vote. Seems the two sides aren't all that different at times. Had she won, would they be clamoring for the end of the electoral college, I wonder.

Dems/Liberals have been against the electoral college since Gore

 

[terry78]

White nationalists are already feeling empowered. In some of the forums I visit, the few women, trans and gay people there are already being confronted with a more brazen attitude. I am thinking of logging off permanently.

I hope this place doesn't hue toward the same attitude.

They feel like they've won. Trump is more of a posturing type, but the other republicans...that's the thing.

 

[NHawk19]

Maybe not actively racist, but as others have said, you are passively condoning it.

To tie this back into comics, Peter Park didn't kill Uncle Ben. But because he didn't stop the robber when he could have, he basically did.

That's interesting considering the KKK endorsed Hillary

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles...-quigg-endorses-hillary-clinton-for-president

 

[Chip Chipperson]

Would you guys go into witness protection if you were Russ Steinberg? Sad!

 

[terry78]

It's his fault.

 

[Chip Chipperson]

Poor guy is like the Steve Bartman of American politics

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

White nationalists are already feeling empowered. In some of the forums I visit, the few women, trans and gay people there are already being confronted with a more brazen attitude. I am thinking of logging off permanently.

I hope this place doesn't hue toward the same attitude.

This was a battle for America's soul.

And enough people chose an America where minorities, immigrants, LBGT, and others are persecuted.

 

[MadVillainy]

It's his fault.

It's also Seth Meyers fault

I can't post because I'm on mobile but type in YouTube "Seth Meyers Trump fault" and see what pops up. It's actually kinda funny

 

[SuperT]

If you vote for him BECAUSE he said those things, then you're racist. To claim all or most whites did just that...is also racist.

No, if you voted for him PERIOD than you have to believe or agree in some form of fashion with him and his VP's racist ideals. How is that hard to understand?! You actively put a racist into our White House.

 

[hellified]

If you vote for him BECAUSE he said those things, then you're racist. To claim all or most whites did just that...is also racist.

I'm pretty sure hitler and pol pot had some good non genocidal policies that the average german and cambodian felt like they could support..

 

[Kyle]

White nationalists are already feeling empowered. In some of the forums I visit, the few women, trans and gay people there are already being confronted with a more brazen attitude. I am thinking of logging off permanently.

I hope this place doesn't hue toward the same attitude.

We grew up looking up to mutants and were most likely the outsiders throughout school. In other words SHH is gonna be one of the safest places on the net.

 

[TheDreamMaster]

I'm pretty sure hitler and pol pot had some good non genocidal policies that the average german and cambodian felt like they could support..

Pretty much this. I didn't vote for Trump, and never would have, but I do know non-racist people who did vote for him, although I think it was more out of spite against Hilary, which was a major problem itself.

 

[DeadPresident]

meh if the pre-election polls were so off, I wouldn't put too much stock in the post election polling either.

It's possible, but I think exit polls could have been more reliable because people didn't really have anything to hide. Pre-vote I think many people may have been playing their cards close to their chest, afterwards there's no reason though.

 

[The Overlord]

Pretty much this. I didn't vote for Trump, and never would have, but I do know non-racist people who did vote for him, although I think it was more out of spite against Hilary, which was a major problem itself.

The problem is these people don't understand how much GOP policies have hurt them.

I have heard one supporter saying he wants to go back to the 1960s, where people had unionized jobs in factories and there was no free trade or a rising Chinese super power, but the GOP created the free trade deals and were the ones who destroyed unionzed work.

Some critics have called Hillary a war monger, but ignore that George W. Bush was the driving force behind the Iraq war.

I don't think all Trump supporters are racist, but I have not seen many who were well informed. The GOP can do anything to screw them over and they will still blame the media or Democrats or minorities, they buy into the same lie, over and over again.

 

[DeadPresident]

If you vote for him BECAUSE he said those things, then you're racist. To claim all or most whites did just that...is also racist.

Trump is a package deal though, it's not a part of him that won the presidency, it's the whole thing. The same way it wouldn't fly if someone said they voted for Clinton's economic policies not her abortion stance, they're both included and people should know that.

 

[terry78]

Basically people vote on one or two issues they agree with that the candidate supports, but if there are a bunch of others that don't jibe with them all they can do is shrug it off. I'm sure there's a lot of **** Trump said that his base didn't agree with, but those one or two things regarding jobs and immigration ticked a couple boxes.

 

[The Incredible Hulk]

No, if you voted for him PERIOD than you have to believe or agree in some form of fashion with him and his VP's racist ideals. How is that hard to understand?! You actively put a racist into our White House.

Again though we've shown how its quite possible a large chunk of the rural white vote in places like PA, OH, and MI was motivated by economic factors.

They had two choices, a guy who yelled a lot who spoke on their level and promised to help their sub-par standard of living, but occasionally said things about people they don't encounter much in their day to day lives. Or a woman who's a polished, long-time politician who (in their minds at least) was going to maintain the status quo. It's a population of people who can barely fulfill basic needs much less worry about social justice.

Viewing everything through the prism of race can give you just as a myopic viewpoint as completely ignoring it.

 

[NotNickFury]

Pretty much this. I didn't vote for Trump, and never would have, but I do know non-racist people who did vote for him, although I think it was more out of spite against Hilary, which was a major problem itself.

Which is then cancelled out by those who voted for Clinton purely to spite Trump, so we've got two sides cancelling each other out just to avoid the other candidate.