The Expendables 3 - Part 1

[Marvin]

Still think they should have gone with the dedicated legion of doom angle with the villains.

I also hoped we would be getting desperado Antonio and not the one from spy kids.

 

[henry_9305]

I really think Banderas will be the scene stealer in this one. Trailer shows little of him but he already looked badass. t:

 

[henry_9305]

 

[Bruce Malone]

Lol even the poster looks super pg-13 in comaprison to the past one's.

 

[StarLord]

I love how Snipes was the one they were saving from going to prison.

 

[enterthemadness]

No, they know they'll make their budget back with an R, they just think 13 year olds won't have to sneak into it, so they'll make even more money. I read about certain actors being hugely pissed about having to do these films PG-13 last time, so I imagine this is all Avi Lerner's doing. He's been a thorn in the side of these films since day 1. He's the Tom Rothman of The Expendables basically.

Dude is the owner of something to that degree of Nu Image/Millennium. This movie being PG-13 ain't a problem. It looks more....high scale than the first two. The problem is these movies don't have good scripts or even that good action. So, if those problems are in a PG-13 version, it may not be good.

That being said, the new trailer is awesome, but you can kinda tell if EX4 and the all-women spinoff happens, it be PG-13.


I wonder how this one will do in theaters? $25M opening and perhaps $65-80 end tally? Even if it does those numbers here, it may still crack $300M worldwide.

Hell, $100M in China may be possible.

EX1 did $31.7M in China
EX2 did $53M in China


http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=intl&id=expendables.htm

http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=intl&id=expendables2.htm


Okay, okay, scratch $100M in China...$80M there for EX3 may be possible.


But I agree with you, this movie was pretty much gonna be a world wide hit with a R rating, so going PG-13 is kinda lame. And as for teens sneaking in, lol, I took my niece and her then bf to the first one in theaters along with my bro. They were like freshmen in high school lol.

 

[P Supreme]

Why is Victor Ortiz in this? they should got iron mike to go with the 80's action stars oh well

and why isn't Carl Weathers in these movies?

him and Sly aren't cool?

 

[Terminator]

I love how people step in to defend movies whenever someone (rightfully, in cases like this) complains that a movie is PG-13.

I think no one ever said that they'll suddenly start hugging instead of fighting and shooting, but considering that The Expendables franchise's big logline is that it's the return of old school action (neither the first or second one succeeded in doing that, IMHO), the PG-13 rating is out of place.

People bleed (red blood, not some invisible powder) and sometimes curse in old school action movies, even if it's just for a few times. I constantly see posts like The Matrix could be PG-13 if they left out some words and cut out a few seconds - well, they're not. And those few seconds of violence give them an edge a PG-13 movie would not. Same with movies like Die Hard, True Lies, Lethal Weapon and Speed. Are they ultraviolent and extremely vulgar? No, they're not. But those little slices of violence and hard-boiled moments give them an edge PG-13 simply would not.

Dude love said it was going to be a family movie.

Stallone has emphasized new actors and a film for the current generation with this movie.

The movies you mentioned were R by the standards at that time. Die Hard would still be R today not sure about Speed and True Lies, haven't seen them in a while.

 

[-JKR-]

Speed would still be some shots lighter with a PG-13 rating today:

No blood squibs would be used, either.

And I imagine they'd have to tone down the language. All subtle and minor things, but it would smooth the edges, which is exactly the problem with many PG-13 action movies. They're toned down. It's not like anyone wants non-stop ultraviolence, vulgarity and nudity instead of a good story, but the edges are gone, and everything feels too smooth. People are shot and the impact is either inexistent, or there's dust coming out. Which I can accept in Batman, James Bond and Captain America, but in old-school action movies... hell no.

True Lies wouldn't have gotten away with a PG-13 either with the blood squibs used (and I had to take out lots of screenshots because you can only include 10 pics per post) and without any cuts:

And in this case I don't know how far you could've taken Jamie Lee Curtis' strip scene, with the prude-ish MPAA having to give the flick a PG-13 rating.

 

[GremlinZilla89]

I hate to say it, but the R rating didn't save the first two from being dull and boring until the last acts....from this newest trailer this looks like the best one yet. As long as there is a sliver of plot and the bad guys have more of a presence (Van Damme was wasted in the second) than they already have a better film.

The action looks better staged and shot here too.

 

[-JKR-]

They didn't, but that doesn't change the fact that a PG-13 rating tones down a lot in action movies. And guess what? I don't remember what they did for the first one, but The Expendables 2 was shot for a PG-13 rating, as well:

fxg: Like the first film, the effects really seem grounded in reality – can you talk about practical versus digital decisions for the sequel?

Mani: The movie was shot entirely as a PG-13 movie. Therefore, all the bullet hits were dust-hits. Once in edit, it was decided that the movie would be an R-rated, which meant that entirely fell on VFX. All the blood, eviscerations, decapitations, limbs being lopped-off are all CG.

http://www.fxguide.com/featured/back-for-more-mayhem-the-expendables-2/

 

[dude stannis]

Dude love said it was going to be a family film.

You do realise a family film, doesn't mean a kids film. It means a four quadrant blockbuster.

Which is what I really didn't want from this franchise. Especially when Fast & Furious already owns that kind of thing.

 

[Drz]

This movie looks so ridicilous in a bad way lol.

+ I hate the idea of a team of heroes getting younger "sidekicks" and having them captured.

 

[Octoberist]

I'll say this: Ex3 has way better cinematography than the second one, which had a cheap video, dreary look.

 

[GremlinZilla89]

I'll say this: Ex3 has way better cinematography than the second one, which had a cheap video, dreary look.

Agreed. Just by the trailer, it looks like the best shot of the three with the best staged action. You can't be sure just from a trailer, but I think this will be the most competent of the three on a technical level. Stallones direction for the first film left me disappointed. He did much better with Rambo.

 

[LostSon88]

Why is Victor Ortiz in this? they should got iron mike to go with the 80's action stars oh well

and why isn't Carl Weathers in these movies?

him and Sly aren't cool?

They apparently had beef when Sly was working on "Rocky Balboa"…Weathers wanted to be in it.

Sly told him it was impossible because his character was dead. THEN Weathers got all upset and refused to sign off on letting Sly use his likeness in the movie at all.

http://www.boxingscene.com/rocky-balboa-calls-apollo-creed-greedy--6545

 

[Terminator]

You do realise a family film, doesn't mean a kids film. It means a four quadrant blockbuster.

Which is what I really didn't want from this franchise. Especially when Fast & Furious already owns that kind of thing.

Four quadrant movies aren't necessarily family films.

 

[dude stannis]

Look, Expendables 3 is clearly trying to be a big Fast & Furious, Mission Impossible style action/adventure film, that a whole family could go and see in theatres.

 

[Hush]

Well with the official announcement of a PG13 rating today, I'm officially not buying a ticket.

 

[Figs]

As much as I love my R rated action films(which this should be)I'm still going to see it at some point. I enjoyed the first two for being fun yet dumb throwbacks to the action films of the 80's and I expect the same from this one. Plus, I want to see Snipes and Banderas with the rest of the team. It would have been icing on the cake if it were R.

 

[Necrosis Boy]

Not going to watch this because of PG-13 and because the last trailer looked just ******ed.

 

[TheJediBrah]

All the blood, eviscerations, decapitations, limbs being lopped-off are all CG

Well no **** I don't think anyone thought that they were actually decapitating and de-limbing people

 

[MadVillainy]

I mean first I was first disappointed about the idea of Expendables being PG13, but when you think about it the other 2 are so tame that, take out the blood, you basically have a PG13 movie.

I really dont think the fact that it's PG13 will make or break it, but everyone will b*tch that it will

 

[Figs]

Well no **** I don't think anyone thought that they were actually decapitating and de-limbing people

I'm pretty sure he's talking about CGI vs Prosthetics...

 

[I SEE SPIDEY]

My mom was really excited about the trailer. The first two films are terrible but I had fun and I could see myself having fun with this one.

Do I like the PG:13 rating? Nope but I didn't like cheap looking CGI blood either. These films will never live up to their potential, I've accepted that so I'm not even mad about the rating.