The Flash The Flash, Episode 9: The Man in the Yellow Suit

[Comics]

Cisko said there are probably two Reverse Flashes, that probably makes Wells is one of two to kill Norah.
The yellow lightning took Barry out, so that probably means he's Wells.
The lightning that took the evidence out of West's house is red, could mean the two work together.

I disagree, they're obviously building up to Barry becoming fast enough to time travel. Probably a mid or season finale of S2

Flash has the Red streak, RF has the Yellow, surely that's established?

Why would two RFs hoping to kill Nora spend so long doing laps around her? It was definitely Flash fighting RF in that living room.

 

[Ted]

For people who think Eddie is ancestor of Eobard Thawne, lets analyze this. In comics, Malcom Thawne is the ancestor of Eobard Thawne, he is also Barry's brother who was given to the Thawne family. Now if you believe Eddie is Eobard Thawne's ancestor, how can it not be Malcom. He is about Barry's age (which explains the twin brother thing), he is in the same era as Barry (I really don't think they would have Eddie and Malcom (both ancestors of RF, one according to comics and the other one according to fans, live in the same era without having a link between those 2, unless they are not planning to introduce this character)

 

[Nathan]

Cisko said there are probably two Reverse Flashes, that probably makes Wells is one of two to kill Norah.
The yellow lightning took Barry out, so that probably means he's Wells.
The lightning that took the evidence out of West's house is red, could mean the two work together.

I disagree, they're obviously building up to Barry becoming fast enough to time travel. Probably a mid or season finale of S2

Flash has the Red streak, RF has the Yellow, surely that's established?

Why would two RFs hoping to kill Nora spend so long doing laps around her? It was definitely Flash fighting RF in that living room.

Red lightning is definitely Zoom's character trait. I doubt you had two of them at Barry's house that night. One killing Nora, the other one carrying Barry out. There was definitely a red speedster in the house. Maybe a future version of Barry, or even Wally or Jay, making sure Barry stays alive, so the future stays intact.

 

[Thanos]

Maybe the other Red Speedster is Ezra Miller.

 

[The Shape]

I'm still reeling over last night. What an episode.

 

[Fouldz]

I'm really hoping they dont have both eddie and wells being a reverse flash in this season, they should at least save one for later seasons :/

 

[The Shape]

I'm really hoping they dont have both eddie and wells being a reverse flash in this season, they should at least save one for later seasons :/

There's no indication of Eddie being a Reverse Flash so far. Not even a hint, really. It would come out of nowhere, but it seems they're leaving it open to him becoming one down the line.

And welcome to the Hype!

 

[DJ_KiDDvIcIOUs]

Really loved the episode. Some great tv was had by all. I just wish I was more versed in DC lore so that I could enjoy it more but I do love reading all the speculation here in these forums and learning as I go.

 

[Mister J]

Damn good close to the first half of the season. I was near expecting JWS to be at the house for Christmas; if not an outright release, a furlough given the new revelations. At the least, I imagine the case will be re-opened.

Good stuff with R-F and, in particular, the super speed scenes. He came across just as he should; nigh invincible (at this point) to Barry and hugely menacing. And then, there's Wells being Wells. So good.

We got more of actual Firestorm than I thought we'd have at this point. Can't wait for that payoff.

I hope the show doesn't get too heavy with the time travel (if indeed that's where we're eventually headed... and it's safe bet given the history). I can just get messy. Although, I would love to see a couple of eps where Barry (after a good bit of time passes and get more attuned with the enormity of his powers) travels back to stop Nora's murder and returns to a jacked up timeline, which he then has to reverse for the greater good.

 

[Bathead]

Cisko said there are probably two Reverse Flashes, that probably makes Wells is one of two to kill Norah.
The yellow lightning took Barry out, so that probably means he's Wells.
The lightning that took the evidence out of West's house is red, could mean the two work together.

He never said that there were two RFs. He said two "speedsters:" one red, one yellow.

 

[Mikelus]

Would you guys say that Reverse Flash came off as more intimidating than the likes of Slade and Malcom from Arrow?

Also, tonight's episode pretty much further confirmed that if Barry wanted to kill Arrow when they were fighting last week, he could have with a simple super speed punch.

But we knew that already, they dumb down Barry when is convenient to the plot. For example, after he took the people away from the train station (Arrow 308 The Brave and the Bold), he didn't take the boomerangs away or handcuffed Harkness (like he did to other bad guys in the crossover). Oliver should've went alone to the train station, eliminating the nonsense of Barry doing nothing against Harkness, but hey, these are the same guys that think anyone can become a great archer in six months.

On RF being more intimidating, well, he could kill Slade and Merlyn in a second, so yeah... but depending on what they do with the character later on, we'll see if he ends up being more interesting or not.

This episode was the best so far IMO, it had more tension and suspense than all the others, it was not predictable what they did with RF and Wells, so bravo to the producers. A nitpick though, I don't think Ronnie's clothes are fireproof, I know they can't show him naked, but they could've avoided this by changing his story a bit. Example: Caitlin and Cisco find him, but earlier in the season, Ronnie goes with them, gets a prototype Firestorm suit and starts training. Then in this episode, when Barry is in trouble against RF, Caitlin asks Ronnie to help Barry and we get the scene we saw, but with a more stable Firestorm. Maybe they should hire me as a consultant. lol

 

[The Shape]

He never said that there were two RFs. He said two "speedsters:" one red, one yellow.

Yes, and let me re-iterate this for anyone who hasn't noticed after watching the show for 9 episodes:


The streak that trails The Flash is YELLOW.
The streak that trails Reverse Flash is RED.

Yellow + red = the ball of lighting Barry witnessed as a boy.

 

[Boy Scout]

This was the first legitimately good episode since "Going Rogue". Heartbreaking, heartwarming, and intense. Loved it.

 

[jrmtz543]

I'm a bit confused as to why there were two speedsters in the living room when Nora was killed.

Barry has no need to protect his younger self -- RF needs Barry to survive and become the Flash in order to exist. Saving his mother would also cause a problematic chain of events (a la flashpoint), and in the comics, only RF is able to change the past (Barry is prevented in some way).

And if Barry can go back and change time in this continuity, why not go back a day earlier to prevent the murder? Why not at least move his dad out of the house so he doesn't get framed for murder?

It also seemed strange that Cisco was the one to notice it, rather than Barry himself. Also, I still don't get how Wells was pulled into the trap with RF.

 

[luis4u]

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[Glassjaw]

He never said that there were two RFs. He said two "speedsters:" one red, one yellow.

Yeah, after Cisko said that, I'm sure we as the audience are meant to think there are two Reverse Flashes, or at least a second speedster helping RF with the murder. Of course those more familiar with the comics can confidently predict the second speedster is in fact Barry himself. That's a thought that definitely didn't occur to West and Cisko. At least, not one they hinted at.

 

[Silliminite]

The best episode of the season. So many great things, that I don't even feel like listing them. Firestorm's flight was brilliant though, and that Harrison Wells....

 

[luis4u]

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[SV Fan]

http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/20...he-voice-drops-the-flash-forever-down/337548/

Flash had it's second highest ratings in terms of viewership yesterday(pilot #1). It was third highest in terms of key Demo(last week's episode was 0.1 higher, although the final numbers haven't come out yet so last night's episode has a chance to tie that)

I wonder if the CW will think of moving Flash to Thursday nights next year(although I am not sure it is a good idea putting it up against Big Bang Theory)

 

[vantheman77]

On the night of Nora's death, either future Barry or Wells was the one carrying young Barry out while future Eddie or Eobard Thawne killed Nora.

I wouldn't be surprised if Harrison Wells is revealed to be Hunter Zolomon. He could be a combination of both Hunter Zolomon and the Superfriends version of Wells.

 

[Mister J]

Doing a rewatch of the ep on some downtime at work and I wanted to nitpick something trivial: The best microscope on the market doesn't come in a goddamn box? Did it fall off a truck?

 

[BestGirl]

^Maybe she took it out of the box to inspect it before wrapping it.

Anyway, excellent episode. Better than last week's, I'd say. Several plot points that had been building finally came to a head, some more were planted for future episodes, and we even got a nice revelation out of it. Even the Barris scenes didn't bore me; I found Barry's confession to be quite touching.

Reverse Flash is terrifying. I only wish he weren't a time traveler because time traveling paradoxes make my head ache.

 

[Neno_Kos]

I thought it was pretty obvious that it was Flash and Reverse Flash fighting in Barry's home all those years ago.

it was but characters in show didnt know. barry only saw face of reverse flash as afterimage so he thought it was only one. but cisco after he heard barry's story about yellow-red electricity and saw fight he concluded that they were two speedsters that night.

 

[jrmtz543]

it was but characters in show didnt know. barry only saw face of reverse flash as afterimage.

Again, I don't understand this. Barry doesn't have to protect his younger self (Zoom can't exist without him). Barry also can't alter the past (at least, in the comics, unless flashpoint). Why not save his dad or come days earlier to save his mom (if this version can alter the past)?

 

[BestGirl]

Again, I don't understand this. Barry doesn't have to protect his younger self (Zoom can't exist without him). Barry also can't alter the past (at least, in the comics, unless flashpoint). Why not save his dad or come days earlier to save his mom (if this version can alter the past)?

These are the same writers who can't think of a reason why Barry can't just punch his enemies at super speed to end the fight immediately, so your questions probably won't have satisfactory answers. You'll just have to roll with it.