The Flash The Flash General Discussion and Speculation Thread - Part 10

[Travesty]

That’s not even my question: if he can move so fast in court, long enough to have a conversation with Iris, why didn’t he just move DeVoes body in his apartment?

 

[Herolee10]

Been meaning to ask but did they ever give a reason on how the Reverse Flash, from the recent crossover, no longer has to worry about the Black Flash chasing after him due to the whole issue with the nonexistence of his lineage?

 

[KillerMcQueen]

Been meaning to ask but did they ever give a reason on how the Reverse Flash, from the recent crossover, no longer has to worry about the Black Flash chasing after him due to the whole issue with the nonexistence of his lineage?

Nope, with most time travel shows I'd imagine they'd come up with some sort of explanation, but with this show I imagine they'll just ignore it, or give an explanation that doesn't actually explain anything. None of his timeline post Flashpoint makes any sort of sense. You have a pre-Flash season 1 Reverse Flash that never took on the Wells persona in Legends, that then goes on to talk about his time working with team Flash despite that never having happened for him, who then gets wiped out of the timeline by Black Flash, before appearing again in Crisis as post season 1 Thawne, who somehow got Wells face back, and somehow brought himself back into existence despite his plans having failed in Legends and Flash and being erased from existence on both shows. Even given how few time travel rules have been established and all the time travel tricks we've seen, I still can't figure a way where his appearance on Crisis on Earth-X makes sense.

 

[ravn0s]

Been meaning to ask but did they ever give a reason on how the Reverse Flash, from the recent crossover, no longer has to worry about the Black Flash chasing after him due to the whole issue with the nonexistence of his lineage?

Killer Frost "killed" Black Flash in the season 3 finale of The Flash.

 

[Ninjablade]

Re the whole court room speed thing with Iris: Didn't Wally have the ability to steal and transfer speed? I think I remember that being an ability he developed while going against Zoloman, and just assumed that's what Barry was doing. Could be remembering it wrong.

 

[fan4stic]

Re the whole court room speed thing with Iris: Didn't Wally have the ability to steal and transfer speed? I think I remember that being an ability he developed while going against Zoloman, and just assumed that's what Barry was doing. Could be remembering it wrong.

I think what Barry did with Iris isn't much different than what he did with that train last season. If he can phase an object filled with many people with him, it's not really out of the question that he can share some sort of speed bubble with Iris. Of course there's also always the possibility that Iris could do that because she's pregnant with a speedster baby too.

 

[KillerMcQueen]

Re the whole court room speed thing with Iris: Didn't Wally have the ability to steal and transfer speed? I think I remember that being an ability he developed while going against Zoloman, and just assumed that's what Barry was doing. Could be remembering it wrong.

Yes, Wally was able to do that in the comics and him temporarily absorbing the speed of a few other speedsters played a part in defeating Zoom. He also more relevently shared his speed with Linda on occasion.

 

[Ninjablade]

Yes, Wally was able to do that in the comics and him temporarily absorbing the speed of a few other speedsters played a part in defeating Zoom. He also more relevently shared his speed with Linda on occasion.

Ah cool, I had thought I had come across that recently. It’s where my mind went to when I had first saw the scene so everyone being confused about the ability made me second guess. Thanks for clarifying

 

[Dark Raven]

Barry and Iris were able to do that because "we are the Flash".

She should've said that too instead of trying to reveal that only Barry was.

 

[Reek]

I dont remember Black Flash.. unless y'all mean Zoom... to which Frost didnt kill, the speed force wraiths took him.

 

[2kt09]

I dont remember Black Flash.. unless y'all mean Zoom... to which Frost didnt kill, the speed force wraiths took him.

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[KillerMcQueen]

Considering the nature of Black Flash, I kinda get the feeling that just temporarily stopped him rather than actually killed him for good.

 

[Lantern Venom]

That’s not even my question: if he can move so fast in court, long enough to have a conversation with Iris, why didn’t he just move DeVoes body in his apartment?

As a CSI, Barry knew that there still would have been evidence like skin cells, hair strands, and blood, even without the body. Moreover, he had to be in shock that Devoe was calling him on the phone while Barry was staring at Devoe's body. Barry was temporarily immobilized with confusion, which was Devoe's goal.

 

[Avenging Angel]

That argument still doesn't wash. How they convicted him didn't make a lick of sense. Yes there was a lot of evidence against him but nothing was really answered: why did he do it? Isn't that the #1 thing asked in a court of law?

 

[KevTravels]

That argument still doesn't wash. How they convicted him didn't make a lick of sense. Yes there was a lot of evidence against him but nothing was really answered: why did he do it? Isn't that the #1 thing asked in a court of law?

Agreed. It's precisely why it should have been a 2 parter or even 3 episodes. We can see Barry's descent as the trial goes on.

 

[fan4stic]

As a CSI, Barry knew that there still would have been evidence like skin cells, hair strands, and blood, even without the body. Moreover, he had to be in shock that Devoe was calling him on the phone while Barry was staring at Devoe's body. Barry was temporarily immobilized with confusion, which was Devoe's goal.

There's also the fact that Barry doesn't want to lie or hide the truth in this situation. Honestly I don't put much stock in the idea of them needing a motive either to convict Barry. With that evidence, would it really matter why he did it to the court? And with the him being a CSI complaints, that wouldn't mean anything to someone just then killing someone. It's not like Barry, if he had killed him, would have been prepared for the cops bursting in. For all that hypothetical version of Barry would know, he had plenty of time to clean it up without worrying about being caught.

While, yes, it would have been nice to bring all these questions up, it's ultimately not completely necessary.

 

[Babillygunn]

I was scratching my head over why no one asked why Devoe was in Barry’s apartment without his chair.

 

[Primal Slayer]

You only have yourselves to blame..spoke it into existence lol

Spoiler

 

[Travesty]

Dear god, no.

 

[Primal Slayer]

A better look

Spoiler

 

[Astro13Zombie]

A better look

Spoiler

This may very well be the final straw for me

 

[Travesty]

This may very well be the final straw for me

Same.

 

[Primal Slayer]

You spoke they listened.

 

[Travesty]

 

[igoogol]

You only have yourselves to blame..spoke it into existence lol

Got it, another ep to skip, thanks for the heads up.

Makes me wonder what's happening behind the scenes...