The Flash The Flash General Discussion and Speculation Thread - Part 2

[SuperBatman]

I think I like this show more then I like Arrow. There doing an awesome job. Okay any one else think that Ronny will come back as Solomon Grundy. I don't know why I keep getting this feeling that is what will happen.

#1 I thought Arrow already Introduced the man that was going to become Solomon Grundy. Then again where they are going with these two shows they can throw us all curve balls.

Three Episodes in and this i already my favorite show of all the Super Hero shows out there.

can't wait for more.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Do you think we'll see Cisko's brother in the show?

 

[luis4u]

 

[luis4u]

Spoiler

This is the door to the particle accelerator under Star Labs where Ronnie Raymond "died." Note the pattern on the door. There's a subtle reference here to Ronnie's ultimate fate.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

He's learning, I guess.

 

[SlamAdams]

#1 I thought Arrow already Introduced the man that was going to become Solomon Grundy. Then again where they are going with these two shows they can throw us all curve balls.

They did and Team Arrow referred to him as such after finding the old fairy tale in that guy's apartment. I'm guessing they definitely have plans for that guy to return.

 

[Lord Valumart]

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I love that Cold has his guns.

I hope that they build up the relationship between Flash and the Rogues, rather than just have them as generic powered bad guys.

 

[luis4u]

I love that Cold has his guns.

I hope that they build up the relationship between Flash and the Rogues, rather than just have them as generic powered bad guys.

Yes can we a scene with Barry and cold drinking together

 

[Mikelus]

I prefer the metahuman version of Cold, he's more powerful, dangerous for Barry. The classic one is just too easy to defeat, all Barry has to do is take his gun away, handcuffed him and put him in the back of a police car. lol He could do that to all villains except the ones that are powerful enough thanks to their powers. When you think about it, the Flash being so powerful is going to make it harder to have good freaks of the weeks later on.

 

[famicommander]

I prefer the metahuman version of Cold, he's more powerful, dangerous for Barry. The classic one is just too easy to defeat, all Barry has to do is take his gun away, handcuffed him and put him in the back of a police car. lol He could do that to all villains except the ones that are powerful enough thanks to their powers. When you think about it, the Flash being so powerful is going to make it harder to have good freaks of the weeks later on.

This is why they're probably going to build the Rogues as a unit.

Individually they may not be much of a threat (especially as Barry starts to figure out his powers), but as a group they can be a convincing threat to The Flash. A guy with a cold gun, a guy with a heat gun, a guy who can control the weather, a guy who throws projectiles, a guy who can control people through music... and those are just the Rogues we know are confirmed to exist in-universe. Add Mirror Master, Golden Glider, Top, Trickster, and/or Abra Kadabra.

You know he's probably going to defeat most of them individually before they band together. The entire point of the Rogues is that they need each other to preserve their chosen way of life in a city with the Flash(es).

A combination of 6-10 of those characters executing a plan should be a convincing challenge for Flash. Especially considering the Rogues are generally more focused on the heist itself; they want to delay/incapacitate the Flash so they can escape with their loot. They're usually not out to kill him, so they don't have to be a mortal threat all the time.

 

[Mikelus]

This is why they're probably going to build the Rogues as a unit.

Individually they may not be much of a threat (especially as Barry starts to figure out his powers), but as a group they can be a convincing threat to The Flash. A guy with a cold gun, a guy with a heat gun, a guy who can control the weather, a guy who throws projectiles, a guy who can control people through music... and those are just the Rogues we know are confirmed to exist in-universe. Add Mirror Master, Golden Glider, Top, Trickster, and/or Abra Kadabra.

I know that, but after a few episodes of Barry defeating the Rogues (as a group), it can get dull, specially if they do all this in the first season, it has to be more spread out.

 

[The Shape]

Anyone else hoping to see the Trickster in this sooner rather than later?

 

[luis4u]

Anyone else hoping to see the Trickster in this sooner rather than later?

Axel or James

 

[The Shape]

Axel or James

I think Axel would be better and they could still reference James as the original Tricksters that the police caught/killed, who served as Axel's inspiration. They could even have both Tricksters come into play at some point.

 

[luis4u]

I think Axel would be better and they could still reference James as the original Tricksters that the police caught/killed, who served as Axel's inspiration. They could even have both Tricksters come into play at some point.

That could work same with mirror masters..

 

[luis4u]

The Flash was adjusted up to 1.5/3.6 M http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/20...usted-down-final-world-series-numbers/317988/

 

[Rorschach2012]

I've watched every episode like 3 times, i can't get enough of this ****.

Seriously this is the best superhero tv show by FAR

 

[godisawesome]

I know that, but after a few episodes of Barry defeating the Rogues (as a group), it can get dull, specially if they do all this in the first season, it has to be more spread out.

Simple solution; make the Rogues the villainous secondary protagonists of the show, like in the comics, where they don't get along with most other villain power blocks and are so pragmatic they actually deliberately avoid killing the Flash because it would just escalate their problems.

I love the time Cold froze Flash and the second Doctor Alchemy, took the time to tell Flash that the string of murders by freezing was Alchemy, not him, and certified he hadn't killed anyone that month...then walked over and shattered Alchey, said "Until now," then walked off.

 

[Rorschach2012]

am i the only one that was seriously amazed by the look of the Particle Accelerator, that was totally movie quality visuals

 

[Boy Scout]

I thought it looked godawful. And I say that as someone who both likes the show and is typically satisfied with the special effects.

 

[Sawyer]

Oh you.

 

[luis4u]

Oh you.

Just roll with it is the nature of life..

 

[Brian Braddock]

Spoiler

This is the door to the particle accelerator under Star Labs where Ronnie Raymond "died." Note the pattern on the door. There's a subtle reference here to Ronnie's ultimate fate.

Absolutely love that.

 

[DrCosmic]

I know that, but after a few episodes of Barry defeating the Rogues (as a group), it can get dull, specially if they do all this in the first season, it has to be more spread out.

Spread out can be done many ways, not just with time. I think part of why the Rogues work in comics is because they become part of Barry's supporting cast. A rematch with Captain Cold isn't just another fight with a bad guy you beat, it's a fight with someone Barry is invested in. It gets worse when you add more pseudo-friends.

Just for instance: Cold isn't a metahuman and as Flash's literal archnemesis, he's not going to die, so he's going to prison and meet people there. Guess who else is in prison? Barry's dad. Also, it may be telling that Cold and Heat Wave are the guys from Prison Break.

So I agree that they should be spread out, but spread out in terms of who they connect with an how, not just spreading them out time wise, because then it'll take forever for those friendships to form.

 

[KillerMcQueen]

Spread out can be done many ways, not just with time. I think part of why the Rogues work in comics is because they become part of Barry's supporting cast. A rematch with Captain Cold isn't just another fight with a bad guy you beat, it's a fight with someone Barry is invested in. It gets worse when you add more pseudo-friends.

Just for instance: Cold isn't a metahuman and as Flash's literal archnemesis, he's not going to die, so he's going to prison and meet people there. Guess who else is in prison? Barry's dad. Also, it may be telling that Cold and Heat Wave are the guys from Prison Break.

So I agree that they should be spread out, but spread out in terms of who they connect with an how, not just spreading them out time wise, because then it'll take forever for those friendships to form.

Great post, I really hope they develop the rogue's as actual characters, Cold at least better get some decent character development.