The Flash The Flash General Discussion and Speculation Thread - Part 3

[luis4u]

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The Flash - The Flash is Born Trailer

 

[Lord Valumart]

So, Flash is still awesome. I love this show.

 

[FeedOnATreeFrog]

Couple questions:

Why is Barry hiding the Flash's existence? Shouldn't they consider telling the citizens of Central City that there's an unknown number of potentially dangerous people running around?

Wouldn't making the Flash's existence known to the public really help his dad's case? (the account of seeing the man in the lightning won't be written off as nonsense)

It just seems like the writers are just going through the motions of having a secret identity for a superhero story without really getting into the 'why' of it. But whatevs, the show's still a ton of fun.

 

[Nathan]

I guess revealing that there are several individuals in the city that have powers, could maybe cause panic? Also not everyone who has powers becomes immediately evil. So it might not be a great idea to start a witch hunt on metahumans.

 

[king666]

Harrison said Reverse
It's so clear to me.

Harrison is Eobard Thawne

Eddie Thawne is Cobalt Blue

I still think Harrison is Hunter Zolomon and Eddie Thawne is Eobard Thawne.
They've got the names flipped.

 

[FeedOnATreeFrog]

I guess revealing that there are several individuals in the city that have powers, could maybe cause panic? Also not everyone who has powers becomes immediately evil. So it might not be a great idea to start a witch hunt on metahumans.

Yeah, that's the right argument. But it's an argument/conversation I would have liked to seen the characters have, especially near the start.

I really think one of Barry's first reactions to seeing that he's the lightning streak would be, "Whoa. Now I can prove my dad's innocent. I'm going to go the courts like right now (wearing a mask) and run around to show everyone, especially the judge", before someone stops him and tells him why it's not such a good idea.

 

[afan]

Two things that bug the heck outta me...
He's The FLASH, not The STREAK! Dammitt!
and
Stop removing the cowl!
Other than those nitpicks, the show is fun.
Wonder if he will ever be faster than a speeding bullet?

 

[KillerMcQueen]

Two things that bug the heck outta me...
He's The FLASH, not The STREAK! Dammitt!
and
Stop removing the cowl!
Other than those nitpicks, the show is fun.
Wonder if he will ever be faster than a speeding bullet?

Well, they're fixing that next episode so that won't be an issue anymore.

 

[SpideyVille]

I guess revealing that there are several individuals in the city that have powers, could maybe cause panic? Also not everyone who has powers becomes immediately evil. So it might not be a great idea to start a witch hunt on metahumans.

It's kinda like what Perry White said in Man of Steel when Lois wanted to publish an article about Superman, which was the first time I really saw the question addressed in live action, which is how would the world truly react to someone with superhuman powers. Sure there would be marvel and awe, but imagine how many people would freak out and fear for their safety by seeing someone who can do things that the law can't catch or contain.

 

[FeedOnATreeFrog]

Yeah, but there hasn't been a scene like that in The Flash yet, so we don't know what the characters are thinking about.

But going by next episode's title and some comments from the showrunners, it seems like The Flash will be made public very soon, so at least we'll be moving past this.

When he does become public though, I'm curious to see if they're going to address why this wouldn't instantly sway a judge/jury regarding his father.

 

[Loki882]

It's kinda like what Perry White said in Man of Steel when Lois wanted to publish an article about Superman, which was the first time I really saw the question addressed in live action, which is how would the world truly react to someone with superhuman powers. Sure there would be marvel and awe, but imagine how many people would freak out and fear for their safety by seeing someone who can do things that the law can't catch or contain.

Yeah, but at the same time maybe if they had known, then they could have been more prepared once General Zod decided to launch his attack. There's no point in keeping secrets if it's going to get people killed unnecessarily. And the reaction of the citizens in the MCU to the existence of superheroes hasn't exactly been fear and panic.

 

[Nathan]

That's because the few heroes that were known, like Ironman, were regular humans. Also blowing up terrorists didn't hurt. Then when the Avengers first got together, they were fighting off an alien army. I know I'd be grateful when a bunch of powered humans saved my life. But that all might change once the public finds out who's responsible for Ultron.

 

[FeedOnATreeFrog]

Yeah, but at the same time maybe if they had known, then they could have been more prepared once General Zod decided to launch his attack. There's no point in keeping secrets if it's going to get people killed unnecessarily.

Nobody knew that aliens were going to invade them, so from Clark/Jonathan/Perry's perspective, letting the truth out would have got people killed unnecessarily.

And the reaction of the citizens in the MCU to the existence of superheroes hasn't exactly been fear and panic.

Well that's a different story that chose not to go that route (well...other than SHIELD creating powerful weapons in response to Thor's existence and giant warships they used to target any possible superhuman threat which almost ended up killing thousands)

But there are other stories, like Watchmen, which showed how there could be a lot of fear, escalation, and retaliation to the existence of individuals with unchecked power (Dr Manhattan).

But anyways, for Flash, I just want them to say 'why' they want to keep Flash a secret. I guess we can assume it's for the same MOS/Watchmen-esque reasons, I just find it strange that the show hasn't gotten into any of this yet, despite hinging so much drama on the fact that he's trying to remain a secret.

 

[Paradox1]

Nobody knew that aliens were going to invade them, so from Clark/Jonathan/Perry's perspective, letting the truth out would have got people killed unnecessarily.



Well that's a different story that chose not to go that route (well...other than SHIELD creating powerful weapons in response to Thor's existence and giant warships they used to target any possible superhuman threat which almost ended up killing thousands)

But there are other stories, like Watchmen, which showed how there could be a lot of fear, panic, escalation, and retaliation to the existence of individuals with unchecked power (Dr Manhattan).

But anyways, for Flash, I just want them to say 'why' they want to keep Flash a secret. I guess we can assume it's for the same MOS/Watchmen-esque reasons, I just find it strange that the show hasn't gotten into any of this yet, despite hinging so much drama on the fact that he's trying to remain a secret.

I agree the MCU is great but they have completely undersold the general public's and government's reaction. In the real world Tony Stark would of been locked up till he gave up his tech and the American public would of applauded it. It wouldn't of mattered if he was a public figure they would of slapped on a FISA warrant and locked him up.

 

[Cain]

I still think Harrison is Hunter Zolomon and Eddie Thawne is Eobard Thawne.
They've got the names flipped.

I think Wells will end up being Eobard Thawne and Eddie will get a loose adaptation of Hunter Zolomon's "cop crippled by Grodd and then becomes a new Reverse Flash" story.

 

[afan]

It's kinda like what Perry White said in Man of Steel when Lois wanted to publish an article about Superman, which was the first time I really saw the question addressed in live action, which is how would the world truly react to someone with superhuman powers. Sure there would be marvel and awe, but imagine how many people would freak out and fear for their safety by seeing someone who can do things that the law can't catch or contain.

The other side of the coin is the public's reaction to Superman's reveal in STM, and it's that side of the coin I joyfully embrace.

There certainly is a place in super-hero lore to portray public mistrust, Batman being the best example, but it should never be major part of Superman, or The Flash, IMO!

 

[antsman41]

I have been wondering why Barry hasn't told the media that his name is The Flash, he sure uses a lot in conversation and in the opening credits...

 

[Nathan]

It's coming. He'll be officially named in Episode 6.

 

[Mikelus]

The other side of the coin is the public's reaction to Superman's reveal in STM, and it's that side of the coin I joyfully embrace.

There certainly is a place in super-hero lore to portray public mistrust, Batman being the best example, but it should never be major part of Superman, or The Flash, IMO!

And if they did that with The Flash, it would make perfect sense, vigilantism is illegal, they did a good job treating the issue on Arrow, so there's a good chance it will be similar on The Flash. Is just nonsense to pretend they can only do that with characters like Batman or Green Arrow. The best stories are the ones with some depth and realism, not just dumb juvenile fun.

 

[luis4u]

Spoiler

The title and description for episode 9 have been released:

“The Man In The Yellow Suit.”
>BARRY CELEBRATES CHRISTMAS WITH THE WESTS — Barry (Grant Gustin) enjoys the annual tradition of tree trimming and gift exchange with Joe (Jesse L. Martin) and Iris (Candice Patton). He gives Iris a touching gift, but the moment is interrupted by Eddie’s (Rick Cosnett) arrival. Ralph Hemecker directed the episode written by Todd Helbing & Aaron Helbing (#109).

 

[antsman41]

Well, that pretty much confirms it?

 

[luis4u]

Well, that pretty much confirms it?

Spoiler

Eddie always interrupts every great moment between Iris and Barry, why?​

 

[BatsDC]

I really hope it is Eddie who's Reverse Flash. Wells is far too obvious at this point

 

[Cain]

There is more than one Reverse Flash; and both of the more modern ones (Professor Zoom and Zoom) have very different power sets despite having similar suits. I personally don't think the show will end up ignoring that.

 

[Lencho01]

http://andypoondesign.blogspot.com/2014/10/the-flash-episode-2-multiplex.html

Sunday, 19 October 2014

The Flash episode 2 - Multiplex

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In the second episode of The Flash, Flash faces a villain whose power is the ability to multiply himself. Cisco Ramon made up the name Captain Clone for him half way through the episode and at the end he gave him a name that are more familiar to the comic book fans - Multiplex. He was the the first character I got to worked on for The Flash. Like the first season of Arrow, the villains are not quite villainy yet and stilll very grounded visually.