The Flash The Flash General Discussion and Speculation Thread - Part 4

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had a look at that, some good spots prior to this weeks episode, fair play to him. could the skull in the ground joe, cisco, and capt. lance are looking at be future barry? Wells and barry go back in time, wells accidentally kills nora. Both barry and wells get depowered, wells still wants to kill barry, so hits him over the head with a shovel or some other killing implement.

I hope not! XD

That would be a really sad and kind of dissatifying way to day for future Barry.

Actually, I think this guy in the ground could be the actual Harrison Wells, the one from whom Eobard took the identity from to live in this century. There has been recordings of an actual Harrison Wells, so I am not sure whether Eobard actually invited this identity for himself and faked all the data you can find of him or whether he actually choose some guy to off and then take his identity over.
I would like to go with the later one, it would also make it so much more obvious what a horrible person Eobard actually is.
 
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Cool thanks! Let's see whether I can get this to work.

I feel the same way. Actually, I prefer that they don't be together. Iris's sudden attraction to Barry after episode 9 seems very forced.

Yes, it is really dissapointing, Iris and Barry are one of the few coupls in DC comics I really, really like and they have to mess it up with writing them in a very unfavorable way in regard to their potential romantic relationship and they chose two actors who don't have much of any chemistry when it comes to romance. I am not the biggest Iris fan but I like her well enough. Every time I have seen her "realizing" her feeling for Barry, though, she comes over as a very stupid and unlikable person, at least to me. I think they really messed this one up.


Well there are some people who theorized that Eobard had plastic surgery to make himself look like the "original" Wells.

I think his healing powers wouldn't allow him to do so. Maybe he would be able to change his looks for some time while depowerd but as soon as his powers kick back in, he would change back to his original looks.

Well we do know that he has been spying on Wells, and has been spying on Barry as a result, so he might have been doing that anyways.

Wells needs Barry Alive for now in order to get back in time, so future!Barry would know that Barry is safe around Wells for the time being. Wells is also providing technology and training for Barry, so he's still valuable for Barry to become a better hero.

I still think that he would try to spare his younger self to go through all of this just for a mean to an end. The future Barry can't know that Wells wants to give his younger self powers and train him and that he isn't in danger for a while. To the future Barry Well is a complete psycopath, I doubt that he would let such a person around his younger self even for just a short time.
I don't know whether you are familiar with the comics but there is a really good story about how Eobard killed Iris and later Barry's mom (like on the show). Even if just the later one happened on the show, it shows Barry what a person Eobard is. I think he would be much more concerned about his younger self due to that.


Perhaps. It's also possible that he doesn't want the team to know just yet, because if they find out who Wells really is, and Wells finds out they know, than the gloves are off. If he keeps it a secret for the time being, while putting the paranoia in Barry's head, then Barry wouldn't be shocked when he finds out the truth during the right time (which is apparently is on Sunday).

To me this seems like a much too conveluted way to try and help his younger self. Why not just simply tell him? I mean, by now Barry knows that there are pretty messed up things out there and that time travelling is possible. Barry likes Wells very much, that is true, but I don't think that he is blind to his mentor being possibly evil. The last episode made it already obvious that he has doubts in this regard.

Plus the trailer for the new episode implies that time travel has it's drawbacks, and interfering too much might cause some anomalies or something.

Definitely, time travelling is a *****! X)
You don't want to mess with it. Usually much more problems arrise than you could ever solve with going back in time. Barry, the future one, is likely aware of that, especially if it causes him to get stuck in the past and his mother to be killed. But there is still no reason why he would not interfere with Wells doing as "Wells" is obviously already messing with the timeline.



That's possible, although other candidates would be Simon Stagg, and maybe the original Wells, assuming Eobard took his place instead of creating a new identity.

I would go with Wells, I don't think that Simon Stagg would be that decomposed after just a couple of months? He is buried directly in earth, so the process probably would have been sped up but I don't think that it would work that quickly.
 
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I hope not! XD

That would be a really sad and kind of dissatifying way to day for future Barry.

Actually, I think this guy in the ground could be the actual Harrison Wells, the one from whom Eobard took the identity from to live in this century. There has been recordings of an actual Harrison Wells, so I am not sure whether Eobard actually invited this identity for himself and faked all the data you can find of him or whether he actually choose some guy to off and then take his identity over.
I would like to go with the later one, it would also make it so much more obvious what a horrible person Eobard actually is.


I suppose.

It could set up a narrative about winning against fate, seems to be a theme developing about not messing with time which i get if its the past but do the same rules apply if its an individuals future, probably do, just throwing it out there. But the real wells is more likely alright.
 
I think the person in the ground is either the real Harrison Wells or Harrison Wells' wife.
They did touch on his wife's death earlier in the season. And it was Joe that was asking. So i bet he uncovers something.

My guess is that team arrow will get involved somehow and basically expose RF to everyone.
 
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I forgot to check my DVR, to make sure it was the only thing recording tonight. It better be there when I get home, or tables will be flipped.

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I really do hope that someone in the show brings up the issue over how it's somewhat inhumane to still imprison the Meta-Humans that they have underneath Star Labs in the manner that they've done.

Criminals who have done far worse in life have gotten better privileges in prison than the ones underneath Star Labs.

If I'm not mistaken, someone from the production team did indeed say they would be addressing that issue.
 
I felt that way since he first appeared. Kind of lame with him doing his mustache twirling while the reverse flash is running around. Also why does he wear a winter jacket in what appears to be spring into Summer?

Aside from that the new timeline twist variations on what barry changed were awesome.
 
I love how this show can do 'ham' without losing it's feet on the grounded line.
 
Welp now I know what the guy who said Henry Allen was Reverse-Flash feel.
 
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I think his healing powers wouldn't allow him to do so. Maybe he would be able to change his looks for some time while depowerd but as soon as his powers kick back in, he would change back to his original looks.

Not the way the powers have been displayed thus far. They're not super Wolverine level, to the point that they completely regenerate damaged tissue, or force out any foreign matter. That's why Caitlin had to remove the spines from Barry after getting hit by that special bomb, and I'm pretty sure they've mentioned before how he needs to get bones reset in the correct position if they're broken and out of place.

The healing, at least as it's been displayed, wouldn't reverse plastic surgery, it would only help heal from it quicker.
 
Just thinking that Flash's powers must be really lame for him. When he runs at super speed everything slows down for him so it would be like running at normal speed just everything around you has slowed down. This means that if he runs to Starling City it is just the same as me or you doing it just he gets there faster. Must be really boring doing it all the time. Unless he likes jogging.
Anyway back to the thread.
 
Just thinking that Flash's powers must be really lame for him. When he runs at super speed everything slows down for him so it would be like running at normal speed just everything around you has slowed down. This means that if he runs to Starling City it is just the same as me or you doing it just he gets there faster. Must be really boring doing it all the time. Unless he likes jogging.
Anyway back to the thread.
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Just thinking that Flash's powers must be really lame for him. When he runs at super speed everything slows down for him so it would be like running at normal speed just everything around you has slowed down. This means that if he runs to Starling City it is just the same as me or you doing it just he gets there faster. Must be really boring doing it all the time. Unless he likes jogging.
Anyway back to the thread.

He probably has the ability to control his perception, so running great distances wouldn't seem like hours for him, but if he needs to move fast and precise he slow everything down.
 
Well it's all make believe anyway and the show makers will probably gloss over it, so it doesn't matter. Just bored and thinking. Never a good mix.
 
Just thinking that Flash's powers must be really lame for him. When he runs at super speed everything slows down for him so it would be like running at normal speed just everything around you has slowed down. This means that if he runs to Starling City it is just the same as me or you doing it just he gets there faster. Must be really boring doing it all the time. Unless he likes jogging.
Anyway back to the thread.

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Pretty sure that the perception thing is a separate ability, that while linked to his speed, doesn't have to be in effect at the same time.

There have been several incidents since the beginning directly implying that everything does not slow down for him.

In the first episode when he first gets his powers, Barry is shocked when he tries to take a few steps and runs across the alley and smashes through the back of the car.

Also when he rescues people from the burning building, he over-shoots a turn by 6 blocks.

If everything was slowed down for him, and he perceives himself running normally, these kind of things wouldn't happen.

However this is just an observation, I could be wrong.....
 
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